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By K123 2025-12-01 18:02:43
Problem with an AI label is that AI is already and will be used for everything, even if not for direct 3D models or images, even just LLM for brainstorming, making lists of potential names, script, etc. so yeah, it is pointless as one label.
Different labels for "AI was used to write the script" "AI was used to make 2D images" and "AI was used to make models" would be more suitable.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-01 18:28:07
And again, people should be informed if they dont want to buy slop that was written by ChatGPT.
By K123 2025-12-01 18:37:45
I have nothing against labelling for the Luddites.
My point is the current labelling isn't clear. Most people will be offended by 2d game art made with AI. If you use ChatGPT for some text then have to label AI use it might give the wrong impression that AI was used for imagery even if it was not.
By Draylo 2025-12-01 21:42:25
My Johto display almost complete, just missing Janine.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-01 22:14:08
I have nothing against labelling for the Luddites.
My point is the current labelling isn't clear. Most people will be offended by 2d game art made with AI. If you use ChatGPT for some text then have to label AI use it might give the wrong impression that AI was used for imagery even if it was not. I'd be willing to bet that 99% of dev's using AI are going to use it for art first, not "hey ChatGPT, fill in some dialog here"
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-01 22:15:10
If AI existed in the 80's
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-12-02 07:59:25
My point is the current labelling isn't clear.
They should probably make the definition clearer or lay out standards for it, "Made by AI" is really vague and, like you said, everything will end up using it in some capacity.
I'd have no problem with AI being used for things like analyzing large data sets, procedural stuff like testing/qa/etc, testing for spelling/grammar/translation errors, or non-creative/artistic things. I take more issue with art, music, story, etc being directed by it. I expect most are the same, but at what point does doing this cross over from using AI to "Made with AI"?
I doubt they'll get super granular with it, but they should probably change it to be clearer and outline whatever their standard is for determining it. "Uses AI Generated Content" is probably closer to what they should be aiming for.
By Shichishito 2025-12-02 10:12:08
If creating it didn't take several times longer than consuming it chances are it's not worth to be consumed in the first place.
Also I wouldn't count rephrasing prompts til AI spits something out that "fits" as time spent creating.
Apparently cola rendered around 70k AI videos till they got something they considered good enough for their advertisement.
The good enough advertisement: YouTube Video Placeholder  I remember someone commenting how anal large companies can be even just for minor errors like the kerning of a single letter being slightly off but then consider this adequate...
I prefer this version: YouTube Video Placeholder
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-12-02 10:37:30
That Coke ad is something else. Who watches an ad for Coke like that and thinks: "I wanna drink sugary piss water"?
Then again, here we are, talking about it and I never talk about Coke, so they clearly got their objective.
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By Shichishito 2025-12-02 11:26:49
AI afaik hasn't been used for video advertisements, at least not by such big companies. Of course it works in the attention seeking department because it has the novelty of being new and AI being controversial, it was to be expected that this would provoke outrage or malice and therefore increase their reach. The thing is coke doesn't need that kind of attention to increase their reach, everyone already knows that brand.
The question is are only advertisement professionals repelled by this or are the consumers, too. We'll see if this was just a single stunt or if this becomes the new standard next year.
By Draylo 2025-12-02 12:32:12
My gym just rose their price over 70 dollars. Amazon is removing no interest financing, what else is next a netflix price hike? How can they keep doing this over and over, and then tariffs on literally everything you buy. Its not been this bad in a long time.
By K123 2025-12-02 12:33:10
Haven't time to post fully but sorry, you're way out of reality.
AI adverts are on TV in Eastern Europe and in Asia. By next year half of things in the West will be
By Viciouss 2025-12-02 13:15:10
My gym just rose their price over 70 dollars. Amazon is removing no interest financing, what else is next a netflix price hike? How can they keep doing this over and over, and then tariffs on literally everything you buy. Its not been this bad in a long time.
More like ever? It's never been this bad.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-12-02 13:16:50
That Coke ad is something else. Who watches an ad for Coke like that and thinks: "I wanna drink sugary piss water"? Caffeinated sugary piss water. Sugar alone isn't addictive enough.
The question is are only advertisement professionals repelled by this or are the consumers, too. We'll see if this was just a single stunt or if this becomes the new standard next year. Right now its new and in the news. That's why Coke did it. How many ooo... AI! news articles, posts, blogs, etc. have you seen about the Coke commercial? How many times have you seen the Coke commercial?
Once AI adds are commonplace the only decision will be cost per eyeball.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-12-02 13:30:26
My gym just rose their price over 70 dollars. Amazon is removing no interest financing, what else is next a netflix price hike? How can they keep doing this over and over, and then tariffs on literally everything you buy. Its not been this bad in a long time. How can they keep doing this over and over? Its EASY! It would be easy even if every form of consumer protection hadn't been drowned in a bathtub. Just raise the prices on everything and blame someone or something else.
As for netflix, there will be more tiers with commercials and more expensive commercial free tiers.
Does the great recession count in that long time? No one could afford anything and prices STILL rose. Not as fast as this year but IMHO you have to factor unemployment in.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-12-02 13:39:41
The question is are only advertisement professionals repelled by this or are the consumers, too. We'll see if this was just a single stunt or if this becomes the new standard next year.
I don't work in advertising. I have friends that do and they are repulsed by it, but it's also somewhat of an existential threat for them because it's their job. I have other friends who own marketing businesses (for content/media creation) that expect within 2 years they'll be out of business entirely. I'm indifferent to it, because I don't read an ad and go buy something, I read an ad, go look into it more, ask around, then go buy it if it's anything of consequence. I'm more annoyed at the proliferation of "reviews" that are paid for and make it impossible to find if something is worth a ***or not.
Marketing and advertising is one of those areas AI has a real potential to be mega impactful to the industry in a way that actually functions. For ads/commercials, if you can generate an ad that plants a seed of thought on a subject into a consumers mind, which then drives them to other media (website, influencers, etc) then it did the job. AI can do this and I don't think most people will care or even know (how many times do you see AI generated content on FB treated like it is real?). You can then use AI to generate web content at a much more rapid pace to meet things like keywords, referrers, etc. It still takes someone to polish it but the content generation is a lot cheaper.
It won't replace all the fake "reviews" online. You'll still have talking heads who are paid to "review" products that don't understand anything and only "review" it because they are paid to, but it'll drive more traffic to them when people see an AI generated ad then go look for their dumb opinion on it
By Shichishito 2025-12-02 14:06:57
The part that's baffling is before AI perfection was barely good enough. Now with AI subpar suddenly became perfectly acceptable?
Sure AI might be cheaper right now but big tech is known for ramping up pricing once the monopoly is established.
I'm indifferent to it, because I don't read an ad and go buy something I think that's the case for most people. Advertising can only do so much, at some point the product has to lift it's weight.
However if the advertisement put the brand/product on ones radar when it previously wasn't it did it's job.
I agree on the payed reviews but I think that isn't legal unless it's clearly communicated that they've got sponsored.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-02 14:15:27
This is why there needs to be transparency of the usage of AI.
Its not that subpar slop is acceptable, its the people putting out subpar slop want to save money and are deeming the subpar slop as acceptable to put out.
Consumers vote with their wallet and need to be sufficiently informed. A lack of information will lead to assumptions and subsequent distrust.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-12-02 14:18:12
The part that's baffling is before AI perfection was barely good enough. Now with AI subpar suddenly became perfectly acceptable? Moving goalposts?
I mean we never had perfection. AI got better over time and now that it can get the number of fingers right its uses have expanded.
There is also the WOW! look at what AI can do now! factor.
By Shichishito 2025-12-02 18:20:58
I mean we never had perfection. AI got better over time and now that it can get the number of fingers right its uses have expanded. What ever we had it was a lot closer to perfection than what AI delivers.
There is also the WOW! look at what AI can do now! factor. I don't know about others but for me the wow effect is long gone and annoyance is taking over.
Lately I find myself clicking thru multiple pages because half the front page of search engine results are AI generated and often they drag out the point only to not answer the question at all.
I didn't know I had a goalpost either.
By Draylo 2025-12-02 20:02:19
My gym just rose their price over 70 dollars. Amazon is removing no interest financing, what else is next a netflix price hike? How can they keep doing this over and over, and then tariffs on literally everything you buy. Its not been this bad in a long time. How can they keep doing this over and over? Its EASY! It would be easy even if every form of consumer protection hadn't been drowned in a bathtub. Just raise the prices on everything and blame someone or something else.
As for netflix, there will be more tiers with commercials and more expensive commercial free tiers.
Does the great recession count in that long time? No one could afford anything and prices STILL rose. Not as fast as this year but IMHO you have to factor unemployment in.
We might be heading for that tbh, I'm seeing some scary things going on with a lot of different markets and peoples spending habits. It's going to reach a bursting point soon I would think.
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By K123 2025-12-03 11:09:38
If creating it didn't take several times longer than consuming it chances are it's not worth to be consumed in the first place.
Also I wouldn't count rephrasing prompts til AI spits something out that "fits" as time spent creating.
Apparently cola rendered around 70k AI videos till they got something they considered good enough for their advertisement.
The good enough advertisement: YouTube Video Placeholder  First things first, I doubt they created 70,000 generations to make this clip. If they did it was probably because they were exploring numerous tools and worflows.
With image to video these short clips would have been easy to nail without generating lots of video clips and the images would be easy to make with a lot of genAI tools. If they were using text to video for the whole thing it would be incredibly dumb, show a serious lack of knowledge of anything AI, and be incredibly inefficient.
Second, the whole different trucks narrative is bs, for one you have to be autistic/OCD as *** to notice that or desperate enough to be looking for problems with the video to care (likely the case). The narrative is, for the intended audience (kids), cohesive and visually engaging enough to not notice the variance in the trucks.
Thirdly, the tools used when this was made would be primitive by today's standard of Veo 3.1, Kling 2.6, Runway 4.5, Wan, etc. If you really think this is the epitome rather than another milestone that will be surpassed you are living in a cave.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-03 12:00:44
https://x.com/Andy_VGC/status/1995914769614635323
inb4: REEEEE TWITTER LINKS I DONT DO TWITTER LINKS
Well its the only place I have this video
Anyways, this video only made me more concerned that the new Metroid Prime game is gonna be absolutely *** mid.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-12-03 12:19:07
Doesn't really fit the gritty semi-horror attitude of Prime, but I don't think it's a game ruiner to show people having personality. Makes sense that Samus would be a legend to people of her universe by now. Am I missing something?
By Viciouss 2025-12-03 12:31:06
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-03 12:42:59
Galactic federation solder is a quirk chungus who fangirls infront of Samus infront of her superior officer while on deployment.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-12-03 12:44:18
Art reflects culture. It's a strange choice, but it's hardly enough to assume the game is ruined. Now, if the entire game is full of references intended for millenial man-children.. then yea, it's not great. I love Metroid; I'll suspend skepticism until there's evidence it's a game-wide issue.
By K123 2025-12-03 12:57:43
I've never played a Metroid Prime game. Should I?
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
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