Store TP Caps And Atma

I looked everywhere for this but I couldn't find anything useful. I'm assuming I'm on the right path, but I want to double check. Correct if i just pulled a big derp.

For gear, store tp caps at +50.
For abilities, store tp caps at +50, this includes atma and store tp trait.
For spells, I guess, samurai roll from COR, which caps at +50 also? Or is this where Atma fits?

Doesn't seem right to me. And I'm not sure where food fits in. I'm assuming this goes with abilities.

Is there a known hard cap for total store tp? Say +100 total? I'm really interested as I'm trying to make an x-hit build for COR and RNG using the STP+15 gun and this ***just threw me for a loop.

Yeah, i was browsing through other forums and wiki saying +50~51 was Cap for gear. But I was wondering if there was some sort of cap for abilities and such also. The thread was from 2009 or something and hasn't been updated since. I was just wondering if any new revelations have been found out.

Yeah, this isn't a Nabis thread. Sorry to disappoint.

Edit: If you said is true, HI2U easy 3-hit for COR.

Store TP does not *** cap at all

FFXI Calculator is -trash- when it comes to STP

Do you have any info that proves the cap to be non-existant?

Go out and try it for yourself on SAM. FFXICalc stops at a point which is still passed within the game.

Do you have any info that proves the cap to exist? I haven't seen tests done one way or the other.

There was something about it on BG a few months ago.

Feel free to go digging.

If there is a cap it's higher than +113. Just used tp wing at +113 and got 213 tp from it.

That's about as good as I can do since I'm not sam main. Well I could crank out a bit more from gear and some from food but I think it's like maybe 15. Also I don't have all the store tp atmas and I'm pretty sure some are mislabled so not sure if I can get more than the 60 I got from just atmas. Like Dunes minor supposedly gives 20... but that plus the 2 major ones together only give 60...

This is all I found on Alla and BG.

"I was able to 4-hit with a non-usu 5-hit build (including carbonara) and SAM roll. 31 store TP from gear and carbonara, +42 or higher from a 6 or 11 on SAM roll. I don't know if there's supposed to be a total store TP cap, a gear store TP cap, or something else, but it is entirely possible to 4-hit with SAM roll. I would imagine that, given current gear progression, a 4-hit would eventually be feasible with carbonara and store TP atma(s)."

This was off wiki.

"Store TP caps at +51, not +50... I did tests with my gear merits and food I had a total Store TP of 77
my tp should've gone 20.3, 40.6, 60.9, 81.2, 101.5 (total 77(+52))
but it went 20.2, 40.4, 60.6, 80.8, 101 (Total 76 (+51))
it if was (Total 75(+50)).. it would be 20.1, 40.2, 60.3, 80.4, 100.5 etc etc
mob did NOT hit me, seigan third eye, and Zanshin did NOT proc 5/5 store tp merits, and no they dont increase cap. why +51?! go look at haste :) you really need +26 haste to get the +25 cap "

"On your analogy to the haste cap, the 26 haste is a cap for 25% actual haste because of how the game handles fractions (or at least how we think it does). Since the 1.XX modifier where XX is your Store TP seems to work for calculations, it would be more natural to surmise that the game caps your multiplier at some percentage. 50% or 75% boost would be two likely levels, but we know you can go beyond 50% so throw that out. It might be that 76 Store TP nets you a 75% boost, similar to haste, and that the cap is 175% of your normal TP/hit. If this is the case then 76 could be the actual cap due to all contributors (merits, job traits, gear, food) and not represent a 51 Store TP gear cap. COR seems to be above and beyond these calculations allowing you to essentially break the cap."

So basically, no one knows WTF they are talking about. I'm sure SE must have imposed some sort of Store TP cap, because as more Store TP gear comes available, some jobs will be broke as ***. COR roll obviously breaks some sort of boundary. Some players notice a cap, some don't. I think it's save to say, no one has actually tested Store TP potential fully except for reaching x-hit build.

Edit: IPhone double paste derp.

Well the thing about stacking more store tp is the lower your X hit build gets the more you will need to get to the next lower X hit.

Like lets say you were using culverin to get max base tp of 18. 4 hit is pretty easy only needs on average 39. 3 hit 86, 2hit 177... and 1 hit would be 556!!!

So really I doubt we will see anything lower than 3 hit except maybe a sam with the base relic bow and alot of help lol

In my experience, anyone with that Germany flag up there in the corner believes that they are right no matter what, and any testing or information anyone else has put out, no matter how logical they were, they are wrong.

Even people not from Germany. Ask Urial, he's a perfect example.

To be fair, he's correct on this matter. I don't blame him for not wanting to dig through hundred of pages worth of threads just to find Failure, Kirschy or whoever the hell did the testings post.

Leave SAM out of this and just test raw Store TP first on a job that doesn't get the trait. My problem with all these Store TP generalizations is that all the old testings revolve around SAM and nothing more. We are in a new era where a lot more jobs have access to Store TP now and all the old info is outdated.

I'd test this myself, but I still have 5 more 15 hour work days.

Really?..

Sounds like people from Andorra are worse in that that judge people they don't know just because of their heritage.

Has nothing to do with heritage, can set the flag to whatever country you want, and the example I actually gave was of someone that lives in the US so I'm not discriminating by locale. Just from what I've seen, there's so many counter-productive elitists on this site with that flag.

And for what it's worth, I'm from Japan, but live in the US. I just like the color of this flag.

Yeah there are a few. Mostly cuz most Germans are just noobs at this game. Like 90%, but still lol...

It's ok Finalvegeta I know you are not a n00b.

Anyways back to the point at hand store tp if it has a total cap, caps at higher than +100

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It gives 100 + however much stp you have. Having 113 makes it give back 213 tp.

Well, makes sense when it gives 100 tp. Just imagine if you had a weapon that gave 100 tp a hit. Stp would affect it the same way. 100 stp = +100% to 100 = 200 tp.

Store tp just applies to wings the same as it would a melee hit. Each 1 point giving 1% more than you would've gotten. Ie if you would've gotten 10 then you get 10.1

And since wings give 100% normally that makes them ideal test items since it can't round down. Aside from the medicated effect of course lol

I beat you Dasva! =P