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By valak 2011-02-03 17:35:45
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Has anyone ever gone into abyssa with a full alliance to kill a nm only to find a nin/dnc soloing it therefore causing the alliance to wait 45 min to an hour waiting for it to die only to have your alliance break apart because they didnt want to wait or waste time? this is the only real issue i have with it. does anyone know where to make suggestions to SE. something like if someone is soloing a nm and no one but that person is fighting it for more than 5 min the nm becomes unclaimed so it can put the needs of the many before the needs of the few again?
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By Kujata.Valak 2011-02-03 17:38:41
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-03 17:42:11
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Your idea is horrable.. so just because you have more people you get the right to take nms from others?

There is nothing you or SE can do about this. There will always be situations where another person/group is farming/killing the nm you want at the time. You just have to deal with it
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-02-03 17:42:13
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no.
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By Leviathan.Optimis 2011-02-03 17:42:44
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valak said:
Has anyone ever gone into abyssa with a full alliance to kill a nm only to find a nin/dnc soloing it therefore causing the alliance to wait 45 min to an hour waiting for it to die only to have your alliance break apart because they didnt want to wait or waste time? this is the only real issue i have with it. does anyone know where to make suggestions to SE. something like if someone is soloing a nm and no one but that person is fighting it for more than 5 min the nm becomes unclaimed so it can put the needs of the many before the needs of the few again?
Most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing i have ever read.
Dont hate the Nin hate the game.
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By Asura.Teleniel 2011-02-03 17:44:05
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Never spam soloed anything that took me over 20min on Nin/Dnc. Even trying weapons for red / blue & spells for yellow. The hardest thing I've soloed was Indrik which took a whopping 30min and that was only because i forgot to bring Acc food.


Sure if your farming an NM for seals and a Nin/Dnc is trading pops with you it takes longer but honestly not much longer than another party fighting the NM. Go find some roaming mobs build some TE's and deal. Just because I didn't build an alliance to kill something and take 10min longer than your group will to kill it doesn't mean I don't have a right to try.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-02-03 17:44:56
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yeah that sounds soooooooooooooo awesome man.




Oh yeah... your idea is shitty, you can wait just like everyone else, your not special.
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-02-03 17:44:59
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
no.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2011-02-03 17:45:37
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
no.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-02-03 17:46:46
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Ramuh.Scizor said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
no.

and lrn2spell...
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2011-02-03 17:47:26
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I think it would be pretty funny, hell most stuff takes longer than 5 minutes to kill whether you have a full alliance or solo, it would just be a load of everyone losing claim to their NM.

Great idea.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-02-03 17:47:44
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Sounds to me like someone is just pissed that a NIN is capable of soloing the NM that they want and that they need an entire alliance with which they must split loot with to accomplish the same task.
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By Valefor.Nyota 2011-02-03 17:48:55
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valak said:
Has anyone ever gone into abyssa with a full alliance to kill a nm only to find a nin/dnc soloing it therefore causing the alliance to wait 45 min to an hour waiting for it to die only to have your alliance break apart because they didnt want to wait or waste time? this is the only real issue i have with it. does anyone know where to make suggestions to SE. something like if someone is soloing a nm and no one but that person is fighting it for more than 5 min the nm becomes unclaimed so it can put the needs of the many before the needs of the few again?


Seriously, I didn't know there were people this stupid. FFXI community continues to disappoint. If it takes a full alliance to kill an NM that someone can solo, you're obviously doing it wrong. Not sure if you're trolling or are just stupid.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-02-03 17:49:35
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Instead of going Yellow, why not have the spawn point reappear again so you can pop the NM for yourself? Even that idea would be abused to all hell because groups could hold NMs to pop multiples. Thus, ***hitting the fan.

Ask if you can help kill it so you can get moving or just find something else to do in the mean time. >_>

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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-02-03 17:49:37
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If your problem is that a nin/dnc is killing your mob, why not go nin/dnc and kill the mob instead of shouting for people lol? Not sure why you'd have an alliance for a NM that you can solo on nin/dnc in the first place.

The most annoying thing for me in abyssea is VNMs... The upgrade rate on the T2's pisses me off more than anything.
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-03 17:50:46
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Valefor.Nyota said:
Seriously, I didn't know there were people this stupid. FFXI community continues to disappoint.
You say this as if all of us are like this. >.>
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By Bismarck.Kyaaadaa 2011-02-03 17:51:29
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A: nasty horrible idaa, but thanks for sharing.

B: you would think that the NIN would appreciate some help? if you see someone soloing, ask them if they would rather join in, crush the mob quickly, get the drop he wants (if he popped it and he would have killed it, this isn't over the line, he would have gotten it anyway), and then continue. It saves time, both for your alliance and for the person soloing

C: a lot of people don't like the fact that abyssea isnt instanced, but i DO believe that there should have been an abyssite or atma somewhere along the way towards the end of the main quest line that removed the time limit on Abyssea, especially considering there isnt *** all outside of abyssea anymore. Waiting in a zone with no time limit isn't as soul-killing as watching your TE's or Traverser Stones tick away as a NIN or DNC takes off 1-5% HP every minute or so on an NM.
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By Kujata.Valak 2011-02-03 17:53:12
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nah its not that only the time issue concerns me lol. soloing nms that are required to pop a zone boss so people can go farther in the storyline. usually those nms dont drop anything that great. its the KI for the zone boss thats normally what people are after. so basically what im saying is bring at least 1 or two friends to help you kill faster. so yo dont waste everyones time. that is unless you enjoy the feeling of wasting peoples stones and being a thorn in peoples sides
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By Valefor.Nyota 2011-02-03 17:53:31
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Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Valefor.Nyota said:
Seriously, I didn't know there were people this stupid. FFXI community continues to disappoint.
You say this as if all of us are like this. >.>


I apologize, I didn't mean to generalize you all, I know there are very intelligent, sensible, and capable players on this site. However, from all the "grind your gears" "real life pet peeves" threads, that number seems to be getting lower and lower.
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By Leviathan.Optimis 2011-02-03 17:53:31
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Bismarck.Helel said:
If your problem is that a nin/dnc is killing your mob, why not go nin/dnc and kill the mob instead of shouting for people lol? Not sure why you'd have an alliance for a NM that you can solo on nin/dnc in the first place. The most annoying thing for me in abyssea is VNMs... The upgrade rate on the T2's pisses me off more than anything.
This ^ like 0/20 on this T2 to change its not even that the bugs me >.< its the 10 min wait in between.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-02-03 17:54:32
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valak said:
Has anyone ever gone into abyssa with a full alliance to kill a nm only to find a nin/dnc soloing it therefore causing the alliance to wait 45 min to an hour waiting for it to die only to have your alliance break apart because they didnt want to wait or waste time? this is the only real issue i have with it. does anyone know where to make suggestions to SE. something like if someone is soloing a nm and no one but that person is fighting it for more than 5 min the nm becomes unclaimed so it can put the needs of the many before the needs of the few again?
what nm are you trying to kill with a full alliance that a nin/dnc can solo? and why would you take a full alliance if the nm can be solo'd?
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-02-03 17:55:43
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nah its not that only the time issue concerns me lol. soloing nms that are required to pop a zone boss so people can go farther in the storyline. usually those nms dont drop anything that great. its the KI for the zone boss thats normally what people are after. so basically what im saying is bring at least 1 or two friends to help you kill faster. so yo dont waste everyones time. that is unless you enjoy the feeling of wasting peoples stones and being a thorn in peoples sides

Lots of people farm these mobs for the key items that pop the zone boss that drops the items for the uber weapons they are upgrading. Kinda selfish of you to think that SE will make these mobs stealable for your alliance.

Be patient...
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-02-03 17:56:26
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valak said:
Has anyone ever gone into abyssa with a full alliance to kill a nm only to find a nin/dnc soloing it therefore causing the alliance to wait 45 min to an hour waiting for it to die only to have your alliance break apart because they didnt want to wait or waste time? this is the only real issue i have with it. does anyone know where to make suggestions to SE. something like if someone is soloing a nm and no one but that person is fighting it for more than 5 min the nm becomes unclaimed so it can put the needs of the many before the needs of the few again?

The bolded part is already kind of in the game but it's not a ridiculous 5 minutes. It's called a rage and typically is after 60 minutes.

If you are taking a full alliance to something a DNC can solo you were already doing it kind of wrong in the first place. Further wrong if you just had 1 single thing in focus if there isn't anything else in the ENTIRE zone you can do in the mean time.

Building time, Farming gold chests, Doing a random NM for seals/+2, Looking for Atma/Abyssite you are missing that others might need ect...

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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-03 17:56:37
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Kujata.Valak said:
nah its not that only the time issue concerns me lol. soloing nms that are required to pop a zone boss so people can go farther in the storyline. usually those nms dont drop anything that great. its the KI for the zone boss thats normally what people are after. so basically what im saying is bring at least 1 or two friends to help you kill faster. so yo dont waste everyones time. that is unless you enjoy the feeling of wasting peoples stones and being a thorn in peoples sides
annoying as this may be... people solo because its easyer then finding others to help you (your frends may not be avalable at the time) and why should they care about wasting the time of people they don't even know?
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By Kujata.Valak 2011-02-03 17:58:35
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and nyota the KI nms for zone bosses can be soloed easly or duoed thats not why i bring alliance the alliance is for the zone bosses and getting procs on the KI nms if i had nin/dnc and soloed chances are i wouldnt proc red for the KI would i? thats why i was talking about bringing an alliance
 
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-02-03 18:00:31
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-03 18:01:16
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and nyota the KI nms for zone bosses can be soloed easly or duoed thats not why i bring alliance the alliance is for the zone bosses and getting procs on the KI nms if i had nin/dnc and soloed chances are i wouldnt proc red for the KI would i? thats why i was talking about bringing an alliance
You don't need a full ally to proc red. (unless its a shout group and even then...) you should find other things to do with your time in the zone if another player is fighting the nm you want. ff11 wasn't made just for you so stop acting like it is.
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