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Old FFXI vs New FFXI
Bismarck.Magnuss
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2011-01-15 17:53:27
In the old FFXI, I used to feel relevant. Now people are running around with full Twilight gearz and hundreds of Atmas while I still can't get a goddamn Iktomi kill. /sigh. Hurry up with XIV for PS3 already, Square!
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Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-15 17:54:31
I see nebula as a set a bad example for showing "real" HQs. The other set (nemus) would be a better example.
Gilgamesh.Hanbok
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By Gilgamesh.Hanbok 2011-01-15 17:55:51
Shiva.Flionheart said: People are wearing nostalgia glasses in this thread.
Old XI had major problems.
haven't been in FFXI long enough to be nostalgic xD
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-15 17:56:58
Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Or you could just keep seeking til you got another party. Given time, anybody could hit 75.
given the amount of time someone is willing to wait lol , pup getting no invites for 2+ days isn't entirely unheard of is it? then again the server im operating on isn't as large as some others so might be different on Fenrir Now you're changing your argument. Your original statement was that it took skill to reach 75, not that it couldn't be done given enough time or that you needed to be a certain job to hit 75.
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Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-15 17:57:50
Didn't see the part about the negative stats. That's better than royal cloak.
Also, it appears to double the magic burst thingy.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-15 17:59:21
Gilgamesh.Hanbok said: Shiva.Flionheart said: People are wearing nostalgia glasses in this thread.
Old XI had major problems.
haven't been in FFXI long enough to be nostalgic xD
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
EGLS acting like *** camping kings were the worst things about XI of the past imo.
Oh and the lack of viable merit camps which required specific jobs to be relevant...
Oh and also huge work for tiny upgrades.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-01-15 17:59:38
Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-15 18:00:36
Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
Asura.
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Gilgamesh.Hanbok
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By Gilgamesh.Hanbok 2011-01-15 18:02:07
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Now you're changing your argument. Your original statement was that it took skill to reach 75, not that it couldn't be done given enough time or that you needed to be a certain job to hit 75.
holy ***lol take it easy , im sorry for not clarifying
obviously given enough time and patience someone could EVENTUALLY get to 75th
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Gilgamesh.Hanbok
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By Gilgamesh.Hanbok 2011-01-15 18:02:56
Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
Asura.
he's got a point
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-01-15 18:08:22
Gilgamesh.Hanbok said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
Asura.
he's got a point Oh right, I forgot Asura is the magical server where only *** are drawn to. Excuse me.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-15 18:09:48
Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
Asura.
he's got a point Oh right, I forgot Asura is the magical server where only *** are drawn to. Excuse me.
If AH is any indication... Yes.
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Gilgamesh.Hanbok
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By Gilgamesh.Hanbok 2011-01-15 18:09:58
Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Gilgamesh.Hanbok said:
old ffxi did have alot of elitists where as the abyssea era doesn't have as many, and thats good
What? Really? Where have I been?
Asura.
he's got a point Oh right, I forgot Asura is the magical server where only *** are drawn to. Excuse me.
he's also got a point
Edit: jesus Flion's like some kinda effin ninja how he jumped in there before i did
Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-15 18:15:49
I still don't get this "zomg old ffxi was better" craze, though.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-15 18:21:23
Phoenix.Fredjan said: I still don't get this "zomg old ffxi was better" craze, though.
Nostalgia glasses.
It happens everywhere.
In a few years time people will be remembering XIII fondly.
Leviathan.Melisenna
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-01-15 18:21:59
Phoenix.Fredjan said: I still don't get this "zomg old ffxi was better" craze, though. People like to find a reason to ***.
Now are focusing their negative thoughts on new reasons to ***.
get over it. The game has changed. Try to enjoy the positive changes.
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Gilgamesh.Hanbok
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By Gilgamesh.Hanbok 2011-01-15 18:24:56
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Too bad I didnt have a homer simpson pic to go with that, he does a funny little speech about a magical land
looked allover n couldn't find one @_@
Leviathan.Melisenna said: Phoenix.Fredjan said: I still don't get this "zomg old ffxi was better" craze, though. People like to find a reason to ***.
Now are focusing their negative thoughts on new reasons to ***.
get over it. The game has changed. Try to enjoy the positive changes.
well i mean its a thread asking peoples opinions and feelings about new ffxi vs old ffxi,
Try to enjoy the positive postings.
Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-15 18:36:42
Shiva.Flionheart said:
In a few years time people will be remembering XIII fondly.
Like they do with VI and Chrono Trigger/Xenogears (which are big clusterfucks for today's gamers)?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-15 18:46:30
Phoenix.Fredjan said: Shiva.Flionheart said:
In a few years time people will be remembering XIII fondly.
Like they do with VI and Chrono Trigger/Xenogears (which are big clusterfucks for today's gamers)?
Kinda, though I do love VI and I played it quite late all things considered.
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By Bahamut.Evilswine 2011-01-15 18:55:42
Pros from new FFXI: stuff can be lowmanned better, people need to skill their weapons, new stuff to do and new strats to use. fast repop times or drop rates for pop items
Cons: can be really boring at times (waiting for people to proc and then mob has like 5% left and you can hit it twice before it goes down <.<). IMO the procing part fails, i liked the way how stuff rarely dropped and stuff was harder to kill. you had to really work hard on gear for days and weeks for one piece
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Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-15 19:22:34
***..... this is probably right too.
Quote: Abyssea has ended,
but SE is adding something in Abyssea for EXP after cap raises to LV95(June),I guess new spells from chest or something like that.
again, SE adding/fixing Abbysea FOR EXP.
next update will be March, LV cap stays at 90.
Itou(FFXI Directer)said about this year:
Itou:We are fixing old content,and we may add hard versions.
About next update, we are adding mobs/reward in ZNM, because ppl not doing 'em.
also,adding crest BC.
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By Valefor.Sketchkat 2011-01-15 19:28:23
Shiva.Flionheart said:
In a few years time people will be remembering XIII fondly.
I don't know about that..FFVIII had a lot of haters when it came out, and still does(count me among them).
Anyway, I quit just after the second Abyssea expansion, mostly because the game just felt stale to me...nothing but the same couple of zones, and not even new zones, just re-skinned ones. When 7 or 8 years worth of zones/events/content were made obsolete by Konschtat Highlands with a time limit and a red sky, that was my cue to walk away. I could've lived with it if Abyssea co-existed with older events, but it didn't work that way.
But I digress. Those of you that like it, more power to you...it's just not for me anymore, that's all.
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Leviathan.Raborn
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By Leviathan.Raborn 2011-01-15 19:30:53
The Old XI to me was better because A:
Back before everyone knew how to dat mine and before there were tons of webpages with researched data on X that effects Y's performance or A, B, C, Z that effects X which effects Y. Before the guides, before the politics of such and such etc.
Basically when the game was still new and had to be explored.
Now we have 100 Chiefs running around claiming to know everything about everything just because they read a thread on Blue Gaytr (spelling incorrect) with some research on a topic and fancy mathematics (not really so fancy) to support.
OXI better b/c B: Before price spikings on AH (Everyone will probably have a different interpretation due to different play times) which was before server migrations (some of the oldest players will know what i speak of, no i dont mean the mergers), before the rise of RMT and bot wars on HNM camps. It was awesome. You actually felt accomplished getting a job to 75 before the 2(I believe? Perhaps only 1) EXP adjustments.
To whomever made that smart comment about astral rings in coffers, its not SE that determines the prices on the market, (though they could have done the price modifying and monitoring long before stuff got out of hand) it is your fellow players whose greed ransacked the market and made the game almost unplayable for new players. Of course look at it from their perspective, they needed those relics. So very bad, and relics cost $$.
OXI better C: MPK. Need I go any further? People were slightly more respectable back in the day due to you piss someone off they'll kill your party, and probably half of your party members will have an HP 30 minutes or more away from your camp due to lack of transportation. It was easy to hinder "bad"(I use that term lightly) peoples progression in the game and as long as you didn't start a tell war or shout war with the person the GMs honestly didn't care, it was part of the game. (This may not have applied on all servers, as some GM were more active than others).
There are tons of positives in the new XI, so many that I enjoy them every day. However the "new faces" you once saw when XI was still a new game are gone and you mostly see the same "old faces." The game is somewhat becoming more clicky than a high school lunchroom. And if you are one of those unlucky players who most of the people you started the game with are gone or do not have rl friends playing, you get left behind real quick in this new mode.
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Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-15 19:37:49
Leviathan.Raborn said: The Old XI to me was better because A:
Back before everyone knew how to dat mine and before there were tons of webpages with researched data on X that effects Y's performance or A, B, C, Z that effects X which effects Y. Before the guides, before the politics of such and such etc.
Basically when the game was still new and had to be explored.
Now we have 100 Chiefs running around claiming to know everything about everything just because they read a thread on Blue Gaytr (spelling incorrect) with some research on a topic and fancy mathematics (not really so fancy) to support.
OXI better b/c B: Before price spikings on AH (Everyone will probably have a different interpretation due to different play times) which was before server migrations (some of the oldest players will know what i speak of, no i dont mean the mergers), before the rise of RMT and bot wars on HNM camps. It was awesome. You actually felt accomplished getting a job to 75 before the 2(I believe? Perhaps only 1) EXP adjustments.
To whomever made that smart comment about astral rings in coffers, its not SE that determines the prices on the market, (though they could have done the price modifying and monitoring long before stuff got out of hand) it is your fellow players whose greed ransacked the market and made the game almost unplayable for new players. Of course look at it from their perspective, they needed those relics. So very bad, and relics cost $$.
OXI better C: MPK. Need I go any further? People were slightly more respectable back in the day due to you piss someone off they'll kill your party, and probably half of your party members will have an HP 30 minutes or more away from your camp due to lack of transportation. It was easy to hinder "bad"(I use that term lightly) peoples progression in the game and as long as you didn't start a tell war or shout war with the person the GMs honestly didn't care, it was part of the game. (This may not have applied on all servers, as some GM were more active than others).
There are tons of positives in the new XI, so many that I enjoy them every day. However the "new faces" you once saw when XI was still a new game are gone and you mostly see the same "old faces." The game is somewhat becoming more clicky than a high school lunchroom. And if you are one of those unlucky players who most of the people you started the game with are gone or do not have rl friends playing, you get left behind real quick in this new mode.
Sorry but dumb silly *** post. Especially the last bit, it takes initiative to get things you want in this game as it should. The rest I won't even comment on.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2011-01-15 19:44:13
Phoenix.Fredjan said: ***..... this is probably right too.
Quote: Abyssea has ended,
but SE is adding something in Abyssea for EXP after cap raises to LV95(June),I guess new spells from chest or something like that.
again, SE adding/fixing Abbysea FOR EXP.
next update will be March, LV cap stays at 90.
Itou(FFXI Directer)said about this year:
Itou:We are fixing old content,and we may add hard versions.
About next update, we are adding mobs/reward in ZNM, because ppl not doing 'em.
also,adding crest BC.
Why do I have the feeling this Abyssea thing they're adding/fixing means the level requirement is gonna raise to 70+ or some crap like that?
People who have been a part of the FFXI community since either the beginning or near the beginning, how do you feel about the game today in comparison to when it first came out?
I have read comment's where people bash abyssea saying its "broken FFXI", and "no one wants to level in normal parties anymore because abyssea has no cap (making abyssea 70+)"
(now these aren't my words, im neutral and just want my af3+2 and to have fun lol)
I would personally out of sheer curiosity like to see what the FFXIAH community thinks, old school to new, is the game broken now?
how would you fix it if you could sit the dev team down n give em a piece of your mind.
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