Charged Whisker

Also with that spell you want to get as much DEX into slots that don't have MAB as possible. For normal casting the DEX is equivalent to INT but under Burst Affinity 1 Dex is worth 2 INT.

I'm a bit confused with CW still <.<
This is my current set up:

MM/Ultimate/Blinding horn


missing Atma of the lion and it should make a huge difference replacing MM but still, won't go near of 6k <.<

I went a few weeks ago to test it on mandys in aby-canyon and felt a bit dissapointed, don't remember exact numbers but if i recall correct i was doing between 3,4-3,6k with burst affinity, memento mori, plenilune, sound blast and enervation.

ok, so far, from what i got of this thread, i should replace loldenali with lithe boots(until i get my af3 feets), and omega for rajas, that plus an aias bonnet when i get it.

And under BA, should also replace penitent's for warwolf, prism for vigilance and errant cuffs for enkidu's mitts(until i get af3 hands). edit: plus another dex ring instead of spiral aslo i guess.


So ok, until that i think i got it, now to the business lol
i see in people's sets Mavi tayt +2 over teal slops, It´s the 8 Dex superior to 5 int and 3 mab? (if so, under BA or always?)
Same question goes for Loki's over teal body, but i guess that with the pants you answer me, if 8 dex > 5 int and 3 mab, 11 dex should be better than 6 int and 4 mab no?(again, under BA or always?)

I'm pretty sure all those buffs don't stack. Most similar vain buffs don't. I wouldn't be too suprised if you only were getting plenilunes lol. Like triumphant roar will overwrite most attack buffs even much better ones

Comparing stats to mab you'd really need to plug the numbers in. The formula should be on the previous page.

If i remember right they were different buffs, memento mori was wearing off soon and plenilune was wearing later when i was getting ready for more. But not sure, ill keep an eye on it next time.
Also it was earthday <.< and mandys are strong to beasts spells so i guess wasn't the best moment/place to test lol
I guess ill just go again tonight when i arrive home to test it all, i get mad with all those maths D;

Also kinda depends on how many abyssites of furtherance you have and zone and even than the zones vary based on how much influence you have

I am looking for a perfect type of mob to try this on in vunk. I still need nin. Feet and would like to xp with my other character at same time. I am about 3k with buffs and I don't have ultima which I hope to get at some point. I have pop set for atma of the lion and I will need blinding horn as well. I am using baying moon/RR/kirin atm tried to do crawlers and after cw whirl rage and benthic they still alive so need a new mob till I get right atmas

Well when get over here I'm down to getting blinding horn and ultimate. Got half the pop for blind horn lol

Mmm, What about using Fantod to E-peen a number or two? If i recall it it stacks to +20MAB, and apparently stackes Amplification and etc.

Np dasva I would like to see how ultima would stand up to a heavy dose of tachi fudo .. limbus might make a small comeback if they let us aug the armor so I might be able to get that still lol

Because full fantod + amplification is just as much mab as memento mori and takes over a minute of buffing even in full -recast... which ends up making amplification almost wear off by the time you get done fantodding. Also lets mobs wake up and things like sound blast and enervation to wear off

Well i won't deny its impracticability. But, Memento Mori is +20MAB, Amplification+Fantod would be +30 at peak, so its not "just as much". theres a 50% Difference in favor of Fantod (in numbers, not Damage).

But! If you're going through enough effort to Sound-Blast/Enervation for kill speed, It stands to logic while your AoE-burning you would bring a Puller, and usually a Sleeper? While BLU Can act as a sleeper its generally safer to bring one thats not going to be the center off the asswhooping. You'd likely have two. (not in cases of say, Fell Cleave/Aeolian Edge where the "DD" isn't the sleeper. In the case of Charged Whiskers the "DD" (BLU) could be the "Sleeper" as well. But he'd be getting hit from multiple enemies.)

So in theory, You could have one BLU Fantod Between Pulls, Get about 6-7 Off(+12~14MAB), Cast Aplif/Memento(W/e one), Have the other BLU Sleep/Debuff while you Aplif/Memento, Then you both charged Whiskers. He sleeps if anything is left. And go from there. It wouldn't be something you could do mid-Fight, But it would be a slightly stronger beginning Damage.

But this is all of course too impractical for most mindlessness. IT would only be the difference of 2-4MAB, Most people wouldn't find it useful to do that. and it assumes you have 2 BLUs, not one... But if you did go through all the trouble to do that. It would be better, if only by 2-4MAB.

I'm new to BLU so I wouldn't know enough to insist on doing the above :(, It was just a passing thought i had. I guess Fantod really isn't as useful in that respect.

(BTW im not saying this as in "HUR HUR YOUR WRONG AND STUPID", I'm only trying to elaborate on my idea. Nothing more)

A puller is wonderful. Can go Dream Flower => Cocoon => Actinic Burst => Burst Affinity Charged Whisker => Whirl of Rage => Soporific => Thermal Pulse, skipping last two steps if the WoR or CW kills them early.

Pulling myself is the only thing that really limits it.

If you had 2 blus AOEing though there would be 0 reason to even buff/debuff up like that. Not exactly alot of xp mobs that 2 BA CW wont kill

Bumping, because this is good advice.

True but you could separate the BLUs for more profit!

Well yeah but he was talking about having them together so 1 could sleep and debuff while the other full fantods lol. Just saying it would be so much easier and faster just to have them both nuke

Also, Fantod and Memento Mori stack. I was able to log on and test that.

So you could Fantod + Memento, and leave Amplification to suck itself.

But of course you have to cast Memento first, so you'd only be able to get off 1-2 Fantods before needing to cast~


The other Sleeper could also be a RDM/BLM or RDM/SCH, something that couldn't AoE =.=a as well as another blue D:

Two blu's with good co-ordination could do very well with joint aoe farming. If you both round up mobs, taking half each (or each person taking a different group of mobs), you can have one person whirl of rage while the other uses dream flower. This would make one of the two most dangerous parts of AOE farming much safer, by eliminating the risk of spell interrupts and shortening the time the mobs have to hit you. Then if you both BA > Charged Whisker (I doubt there's any mob you'd need even Memento Mori on unless they take *** all lightning damage) you'd kill them all in one timed nuke, which eliminates the other dangerous part, where you wake up 20 mobs without killing them.

This makes me want to actually finish my blu feet.

I generally ignore the magical side of things because I don't have enough space as it is but for special set ups, I'd have no problem pulling out all the gear from sack or satchel.

With Actinic Burst on, the woken up mobs never hit you anyway before you sleep em next :p but still valid points.

It could be but then you get back into not being able to debuff and do all those fantods. Ie full fantoding up is never a good idea

Well, we now know Fantod+Mori stacks, So you could at least do Debuffs > Mori > 1-2Fantods for an extra 50 DMG :P

If you can avoid sippoy, the funguars near 8 are decent. The will deaggro after a while, so you can't run around forever, but you can get a nice number of em.

Also, one thing I think I have noticed about AoE burning.

If you notice, your chain doesn't grow as quickly as though you are kiling each mob separately. One thing I tried, and I think worked, was each pull try and make as many mobs claim to your party as you can.

While I was doing leeches in Kons I would stone1 the first one, Dream flower a new one, CW a new one, ect. I am not sure if it is placebo, but it felt like the exp per kill went up drastically faster than if I targeted the same mob for everything. I suspect only mobs claimed to your party count towards your chain, so making as many red before you pull them (I think) will help you out if your goal is EXP.

The chain rises slower because mobs don't level up when they die unclaimed. While this makes the EXP go up slower it also ensures you'll kill mobs quickly as they won't be max level for a long time.

ever*

If you have mobs leveling up significantly in an AoEburn situation and you're not actively trying to level them, you're doing something wrong.

ever since i first saw this thread i've been aiming to hit the 6k mark. so far no luck. i have lion,BH,and ultima, here's my set up:


i pop the mab potion, sound blast, enervation, amplification (the mab drink and MM dont stack, plus MM wears off too quickly, BA and hit CW.

so far most ive done is 5.5k. only thing i can think of is perhaps when my feet and hands get +2'd (but can't see that adding 500 damage) so maybe 2hring? im a taru with full int merits, really not sure how that guy was hitting 6k, but ill keep trying.

Was he soloing or did they have any buffing jobs? It wouldn't be very hard to hit high numbers with some decent buffs.

wouldnt the dex sachet (during ba) or even the af3 ammo be better?

Skill only adds macc for nukes.

Monster correlation would also push numbers higher, idr if that's relevant for the 6k.