Charged Whisker

Currently, a Shamshir +2 and Genbu's Shield is the best you can do for PDT in your weapon/sub, assuming you're like me and like having a sword on rather than an Earth Staff.


Hikmet Hat has 8INT, and the -MND shouldn't hurt it since there's no MND mod on Whisker anyway.

Yeah it's so nice for farming time. The cool thing about it too is when you AoE kill mobs they repop as EP-DC no matter how many ppl are in the pt, so it makes them even easier to round up and kill. I've done pugs and gobs in grauberg, usually do gobs because nobody kills them here, we don't even have gob nm up last time I checked. Gobs will die in one rage > whisker easily. Some will survive if they resist or if rage misses. Just finish them off with some physical spells. Recommend going /war too for defender, but not necessary. Uleguerand Range is the only other zone without an obvious mob target. I've done gargouilles there, probably not the best mob but they're clustered pretty close together so it works ok.

PDT gear that I use:

-PDT shamshir +2, genbu shield, dark ring, jelly ring, umbra cape, twilight torque, have darksteel subligar but refuse to wear it, louhi's mask. That gives me -47 at night and -44 during the day. With subligar would be 50. Thinking of redoing shantotto for -pdt legs too possibly.

It'd be better anyways for the def.

That actually caps you at night. Umbra gives 6 during the day, 12 at night.

With subligar it would cap me yeah, that's why I said 50 above. But shantotto legs are better so I would rather use those. Without legs I'm at 47 at night.

Colossus's earring and Denali wristbands will put you cap at night

Yeah, those would be cool. I tried to get PDT earrings but no luck. I should try again though now that I have a bazillion stones. I'd rather have earrings so I don't have to sacrifice a haste slot because I usually tank in this gear as well. I do want denali though just because it's -dt. As it is now though, 47 is way more than enough to do whisker on pretty much any mob. Actually Atma of the Lion is -pdt too so I actually have too much -pdt when I'm doing whisker. Normally I tank with mounted champion, mm, and vv so that's where 3 more pdt would come in handy.

I used "though" a lot, apologies!

Ok just nailed Atma of the Lion. Tonight after work I'll pair it with Ultimate & MM and see if I can smoke some detectors.

Did some more playing tonight in Konschtat (and got myself -6 and -4% pdt rings :o), lion, ultimate, MM. Had a friend on bst round up all the leeches (Yuly can just evade them all) and I'd round up all the slugs just with stoneskin/occultation/phalanx/cocoon, then blast them to ***. I've been doing CA/Efflux Whirl of Rage > Actinic Burst > Dream Flower > rebuff/cure as needed > sound blast > memento mori > BA Charged Whisker. At this point everything is either dead or under 5% HP, so another whirl of rage finishes them up. This strat also works on tougher things though, or with different atma, because if you wait a little while when they're all slept, you can just repeat the process.

Anyway, for me, I'll be drawing the line at pdt shamshir, genbu's shield, twilight torque, umbra cape and two dark rings. That's 43% if I can get another 6% dark ring, and 49% at night. +lion atma will cap me out when I'm doing aoe silliness in abyssea, but this is now my permanent idle set (serpentes set, crimson cuisses, AF+2 body and hopefully a refresh hairpin soon to fill out the set). Then again, the fast cast on Isador is pretty damn nice, so maybe I'll leave out the sword :o

Yeah in the highlands I did slugs and the rafflesia. Since you don't need tp for doing AoE spells you might as well use shamshir and swap to isador for your spells if you wish. If you can get blinding horn, you should be able to kill them with one whisker too which makes isador less useful for this since recast wouldn't matter. Blinding horn will add one to two thousand damage onto your whiskers.

Just got blinding horn tonight, and I'm thinking that lightning attack has a cap. Ultimate, MM and Lion was doing about 4100 on ladybugs in Vunk, and then after getting Blinding horn, it was that, Ultimate and Lion, and I was only doing around 4300 damage. Considering what a pain in the butt it is to not have MM atma on, it's really not worth the effort getting blinding horn, unless I'm just doing something stupid wrong <_<

I have some quick questions to just wrap it up since im reading mixed things.


First, MAB Atmas clearly. But with the dex mod, would a dex atma like RR or the other superior one be good also?

Second, stats. Should i stack Int primary, Mab primary, or Dex.
I've always been bad with magic dmg calculations and tend to stick to straight physical.

Lastly, Blu skill. Would it directly effect the dmg? For example legs. Should i use my AF3 5dex 10 skill or Teal with 5int 3 MAB?

Thanks

1. RR would only beat something like MM on BA or probably convergence. Kirin would probably be about the same outside of BA though. Also +thunder dmg will beat out most if not all MAB atmas.

2. Dex vs int is easy. W/o BA or convergence 1int~ .95ish dex. Ie almost the same so only really worth it in those cases where you can get decent amount more dex which is few slots. During BA of course the dex is doubled while int stays the same.

MAB vs stats is so highly dependent on your stats and to a smaller extent the mobs it's pretty much impossible without some values or just plugging and chugging. The formula should be on the first page or at least the variable numbers and how to calculate is on wiki.

3. Skill is resist rate only for magical blu spells. So yeah without BA teal would beat that easy during BA it's a toss up

Ok so then last question.

Do i stack MAB over INT/Dex?

Im going to assume 5 mab would beat 5 int or 5 dex, correct?

I think I already went over that and the relationship between the 2 would vary greatly based on your stats. Just plug and chug.

Damage=[([D + ST]*Multiplier(aka ftp))*Convergence Bonus) + INT bonus]*Magic Attack etc (please refer to Calculating Magic Damage page)

■D is calculated as Blue mage's level+2. There is cap to this
■ST is Related to stats. There is level correction α
■Convergence Bonus is 1.05 for Level 1 Convergence, 1.10 for Level 2, 1.15 for Level 3
■INT bonus = (your INT - opponent INT)*Tier Multiplier (T Multiplier)
■Half Threshold Value exist.
■During Burst Affinity, Status Correction (ST) is doubled

Charged Whisker - 50% DEX, 4.5 fTP.

INT primary modifiers with a multiplier of 2

My bad ya i read over it by accident.

Oh and the stat mod (dex) has a lvl correct factor of .85 at 90

Hmmm just tried it out using mostly dex and then int/mab that I had lieing around where I could was 4400ish with just Burst affinity and memento mori. But my atmas were lion, RR, MM.... no blinding horn or ultimate...

Really liking this spell might have to really make a set and play with this and do some number crunching. But after I do some set bonus testing since I finally got a 2nd peice

this is my set up:



i use lion, MM, and ultimate. i buff up, pull a half dozer or so detectors, dream flower--pop my mab drink--sound blast--enervation--amplification--BA--charged whisker and i still cannot break 5k. best i have done is 4908.

can i attribute this too blinding horn and lack of +2 hands and feet? cause im not sure what else i can add here to even come close to 6k.

i am hesitant to take off MM for the high refresh rate, but since you'll be getting 4-6 chests per pull, perhaps you can just replenish mp from temp elixirs?

my follow up spell has been thermal pulse, i haven't been using whirl of rage only cause im on xbox and to switch from physical gear to mage gear is a 3 macro endeavor, so im curious what kind of numbers do you get from it?

You could use memento mori instead of amplification for more dmg.

I don't use it much but with CA usually hit a good 1500ish for whirl when I'm atma'd for magical stuff

2kish or around there with CA + efflux

Half a dozen mobs is lowballing it. Grab at least 12-15 per pull.

Also assuming that formula is correct dex>int with BA up

1500-2k for WoR eh, my thermal pulse spells do that as well, so i'll prob just stick with that then.

and yeah i know 6 mobs is low, but im just easing myself into this until my confidence and skill at this get better. i had 10 once and lost shadows and stone skin so fast i had a hell of a time getting sleep off.

i think i'll have to try a full dex set up for this just to see. thx for the input

Occultation -> Cocoon -> Pull -> CA+Eff+Whirl of Rage -> Act. Burst -> Dream Flower -> BA -> Memento Mori -> Charged Whisker -> dead ***.

Even without the support of a mage I could pull a dozen~ mobs per pull and not drop below 25% HP. With a mage I could pull an entire group.

Blinding Horn + Lion + Ultimate is the best combo period. I've tried replacing blinding horn/lion with razed ruins (to see if the +50 dex would be better with BA up), MM, and something else I can't remember at the moment. BH+Lion+Ultimate always comes out on top by a few hundred points of damage. As you said yourself, you will get temp items and/or restore chests every pull, thus refresh is pretty much useless. You can also 2hour every pull if you choose to. Azure Lore will add quite a bit of damage onto whirl of rage. Charged Whisker alone should one-shot the detectors though.

Artemis' medal is really nice neck piece for Blu, and phantom tathlum would be a better ammo piece.

Actually phantom would be the same as the one he has except the mp. The item description puts them all as having str for that new set of ammo but they really all have different ones associated with there element. Technically the dex one would be best.

Also when you tried changing to RR did you have af3+1/2 feet?

I watched a group Charged Whisker the raptors in Ule at 6-8k each time. Couldn't tell you how, just adding another testimony that it happens.

Beast correlation would be my guess. Charged Whisker is a beast family spell, raptors are considered lizard family and Beast~>Lizard~>Vermin~>Plantoid~>beast is the correlation chart you'd look at. With CW I'm able to hit around 4.9~5.4k using MM, Lion, Ultimate (don't have horn atma)and my setup is similar to most in this thread. I haven't tried on Lizards yet, but we'll see sometime I'm sure. I know on Plantoid I usually lose a good 700~900dmg using Charged Whisker.

Main: Jupiter's Staff
Sub: empty or Reign grip (looking at alternatives)
Ammo: Phantom Tathlum
Head: Teal Chapeau (have Aias bonnet also)
Neck: Caract Chocker (+2mab neck from Sky's brown chest)or Ugg pendant (depending on MP)
Ear1: Cassandra's Earring
Ear2: Helenus's Earring (+5mab/macc set)
Body: Teal (working on morrigans)
Hands: Mavi Buzaband+1
Ring1: +6int Augmented Diamond Ring
Ring2: Spiral Ring
Back: Prism Cape (Twilight on thundersday) - looking to update
Waist: Penitent's Rope
Legs: Teal
Feet: Mavi Basmak +2


Additionally, switching RR in place for a Thunder dmg+ will def have lower results. Thunder DMG+ is a % value increase rather than a number value increase. Would be like switching out Jupiter's for lvl 90 Almace instead, 15dex =/= 15%

Since you're casting Beast spell > Lizards, it may be best to wear Magus Keffiyeh +1 if you have for the added % to spell multipliers.