Charged Whisker

my build

This is my current build

Thought id look at the current price of that strap out of interest then i saw this ... Nov. 11, 2011 Hididididi Fairytheone 1,600,000

but thats not as bad as this ...

Nov. 23, 2011 Calilama Fairytheone 11,000,000

11mil for blizzaja rly?

whats the whole point of mab sword if its not for CW or any other spells?



u dont have Loki's or Aias Bonnet?

Ask a THF who made a magic accuracy dagger or a SAM who made a magic evasion GK. Just because the trial exists doesn't mean it was created with a premeditated purpose. Since you can cast BLU spells in any weapon, I'm not surprised Jupiter's Staff outperforms MAB+20. It's +15% damage, straight up. The 5 DEX and +30 magic acc are a plus.

7 INT vs 1 DEX

Loki's vs Morri I've heard both ways, probably depends on the rest of your gear and the mob's INT.

Using hume base stats and Visions cruor buffs, level 95 BLU. Lion+BH+Ultimate, Memento Mori+MABI+Ultimate+Gear

Lv90 mob with 70INT:

Morrigan's:

DEX161
INT146
MAB136

Jupiter's + 50% Affinity + BA w/ emp feet

Damage = 4993


Loki's:

DEX172
INT138
MAB131

Jupiter's + 50% Affinity + BA w/ emp feet

Damage = 5024


Lv90 mob with 100INT (very high, will never be this high for an EP-DC):

Morrigan's:

DEX161
INT146
MAB136

Jupiter's + 50% Affinity + BA w/ emp feet

Damage = 4750


Loki's:

DEX172
INT138
MAB131

Jupiter's + 50% Affinity + BA w/ emp feet

Damage = 4784



Conclusion: Loki's is always superior to Morrigan's. Also, switch that grip out for Gatta+1 or Spear. Shifting Neckalce is moon phase isn't between early waxing/late waning or higher.

Why are people trying to have max Output for CW. It's a waste!

IMO What Kaht's strategy was and a few tweaks of my own works very well.

Atmas: MM , Lion , Ultimate

Buff > Gather mobs > CAEF WoR > Sleep > BA CW

WoR usually does 2.5-3k depending which mob
CW hits 4-5k depending on mobs/day

Most mobs even that is over kill, but the setup is most efficient imo.

rinse and repeat.. I always have a friend who's farming KI's with me leeching some xp grab all the chests so i don't have to worry about wasting time opening all chests.

After the mobs are dead, Just rebuff and do it again. MM is great imo you never have to worry about not getting an ISL.

But thats just my 2 cents.. Hope it helps

if you want to add exp/cruor per pull can BA unbridled thundrbolt-CA/EFFLUX whirl and then any aoe spell get credit for all mobs that way

Welcome to FFXI? There is no portion of this game where we don't try to max everything out. Most of the time, it is just a matter of knowing what is better so we can optimize sets and space with the least negative impact. Resists and leveled up and resistant mobs can be a problem. You aren't always going to whisker optimal mobs so knowing what you can do to bump your damage up just a bit more can be useful at times. It's nice to get a half damage resist on a mob and yet it's still very nearly dead.

Are you saying this will exceed the 8 mob per killing action limit? I'm not sure how that would make a difference can you explain a bit?

I've been saying this for months, but sadly it seems you're the only one that is listening. At least the advice didn't completely fall on deaf ears (^.^)d

I disagree, why wouldn't you be whiskering optimal mobs? If someone is already at the camp soloing the mobs and leveling them all up, just move to a different, vacant camp. There's so many options to choose from that there should almost never be a situation where you're not fighting optimal (i.e. non-leveled) mobs. Additionally, even if some mobs do resist the whisker killing blow, whirl of rage will typically be ready to cast again post-whisker. Even w/o the effects of CA/Efflux, you should be pushing close to 1k damage.

first thunderbolt-whirl should off 8-10 mobs next aoe will kill the rest

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I'm not trying to argue that it would happen enough to warrant setting up for but as I said, there is a difference between the knowledge of how to get optimal damage and actually doing it for every situation. I don't go using soundblast, enervation or other such things when I don't need to. I also don't need to sleep or even whirl them since I have my alt pull and I just start casting as they are coming in. But someone who doesn't have my level of gear might need to.

That's really going to depend on your gear and the mobs your fighting. If you get your average damage to land just right then sure but too much or too little and it won't work. You might frequently only kill 2 or accidentally kill 15. If you can get it to work though, it'd be nice you're still relying on a restore chest to be able to use that more than once every 5 minutes so you could just do 2 pulls of 8 and hit a box between.

"Also switch that grip" ...Didnt say it was the best gear/grip doesnt mean im gonna change it, well body possibly although theyre both very close but im not buying another grip for one use, obviously gatta is superior I knew that already.

As regards maximizing damage I fulltime ultimate/rr/mm on blu solo cleaving and never need to pop 2hr or temps chest or even waste time refreshing myself. Buff up >> agro lots of mobs >> efflux >> chain >> whirl >> dflower >> burst >> cw >> profit. Solo pulling I cant see any other faster way of killing than this if u gotta pull yourself chances are youre unable to open with cw and will need a whirl >> sleep b4 hand. You can still kill every mob with mm/rr/ultimate using above method and posted gear set is very much overkill.

Dont need the very best gear as long as youre fast at what you do the same job still gets done. I use razed for pearl and dont bother changing it to lion or w/e for epeen dmg cos they die anyway whats the point.

Or more importantly, an alt to pull the mobs. It completely changes the dynamic of whisker burning if you're not doing all the work "yourself". If you've got nothing to do between pulls other than sit down and rest, and don't have to bother with buffing spells like phalanx, stoneskin, etc - then sure, forgo using MM as it's really not needed in that instance, neither would an ISL box for that matter.

Oops, I just assumed all this chit chat was about solo'ing CW burns.
In that case, If all you do is sit back BA CW, then yeah.. by all means go for the max dmg for CW, with ultimate/lion/bh.. why wouldn't ya!:D

My apologies

Currently working on attaining legs and hands & +2 items for those as well as the feet. How's this set? Constructive criticism is welcome. Thx in advance.

Romanus Mantle, anything but Wise Strap (Gatta +1 if you really care, I use Brass Grip +1 because I'm cheap), and Mavi +2 legs.

Spear strap also has DEX+3, and is around 280k cheaper than gatta +1 (depending on your server prices.)

It boils down to the availability of these grips not so much the price. (example, Spear Strap Last Seen 2 weeks 3 days Ago, least on my server)

which spell sets are you using for CW?

When I'm doing Whisker burns for XP/key items I usually set the following:

Battle Dance
Screwdriver
Whirl of Rage
Quad. Continuum
Amorphic Spikes
Barbed Crescent
Fantod
Thermal Pulse
Memento Mori
Zephyr Mantle
Occultation
Cocoon
Blitzstrahl
Plasma Charge
Charged Whisker
Acrid Stream
Water Bomb
Actinic Burst
Battery Charge
Dream Flower

With /RDM most mobs in Vision/Scars areas (and easy ones like the Observer-types in Heroes) are usually oneshot by Burst Affinity/Whisker alone, but I have Whirl and Thermal Pulse (and Thunderbolt from Unbridled) in case of resists. This setup gives you +23 DEX and +12 INT from spell stats plus Attack Bonus, Dual Wield, Evasion Bonus, Conserve MP and Auto Refresh in addition to the native /RDM traits. Once you're getting ISL and Numerous Temp chests every pull you can swap out Memento Mori and Battery Charge for Thunder Breath and Frypan/Goblin Rush for a little extra damage.

BH-RR- Lion best set up. Dex will give more out put than MaB or Int. Average 1 shot w/ 7k whiskers on most any mob EP or DC. Check profile to see gear sets have CW set listed.

I'm curious, is this true? Or an assumption? >_>;

I ended up having to play my BLU in my exp PT last night because apparently no-one else would/could Azure. Now I'm 86 and just got Whisker, so I'm getting ready to start doing my own Whisker burning.

I've not read through this thread, but I've quickly skimmed over the first and last pages. I'd just planned 2 sets of gear (one "that works", one for when I'm done EXP'ing) and was gonna ask if I'd done anything horribly wrong. Mostly because I heard 1 DEX = 1 INT = 1 MAB ><

DEX is far more valuable than INT, as can be seen in the sets posted. DEX vs MAB depends on gear and atmas.

I clicked to see your item sets and all I see is a really shitty/typical JP TP gearset. Are the rest hidden, or is this what you were referring to?

Alrighty then, this is one I made up based on already having the gear or it being cheap/readily available on the AH/I was planning on getting it for something anyway. (By the by, would Oce. Headpiece do as a TP piece for BLU/THF/DNC assuming no AF3+2? XD)


This is the set I'm looking for advice on atm~


I plan on slowly working my way up to:


Possibly using NQ pieces over HQ as stepping stones (for example, Warwolf Belt -> Artful Belt -> Artful Belt +1).


Some things in my second set will be very last things (like the back piece, Nifty Mantle DEX+5 for 5k VS Dex+6 for 2.5M), I also didn't include some things like Novio earring (though I could probably get one of those pretty cheap now).