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 Bismarck.Selzak
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By Bismarck.Selzak 2011-10-02 00:00:29
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Had this nice little proc tonight farming pops in Misareaux:




Was doing 6500 - 6700 otherwise. ~16% moon phase with Artemis' Medal.


Edit- Normal damage:



Nothing special going on with gear:

Still need to upgrade some stuff.

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Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate
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By ninjie 2011-10-02 01:08:15
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What wins for CW as far as MAB3 vs 5dex?
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By Sylph.Binckry 2011-10-02 01:47:14
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ninjie said: »
What wins for CW as far as MAB3 vs 5dex?
iirc i saw a previous post, of 6 dex > 4matk with BA up, i think... so just start converting numbers from there lol
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By Jadey 2011-10-07 07:51:26
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INT factors in with Charged Whisker, right? Would Maat's Cap be better than Aias in that case?
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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2011-10-07 08:17:08
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Jadey said: »
INT factors in with Charged Whisker, right? Would Maat's Cap be better than Aias in that case?
1 DEX vs 7 INT? I would, most certainly, think so.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-10-07 08:23:23
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How about Ocelomeh Headpiece +1 under BA? 13 dex vs 7int 7 dex?
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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2011-10-07 09:22:51
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
How about Ocelomeh Headpiece +1 under BA? 13 dex vs 7int 7 dex?
I don't have actual numbers on this but I would say that 13 DEX should be better than Maat's Cap.
I use a rule of thumb (1 DEX equals about 1 MAB or 2 INT under BA) to determine what gear to use for the spots in question.
If math geeks have actual values though, I would like to know them as well, since this is only what I've concluded by reading up stuff a while back.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-10-07 09:52:57
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I recall reading the exact multipliers when I read through one of these threads but I can't find it now.
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By Jadey 2011-10-07 11:08:58
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So something like this should be more than fine for KI/time farming in Grauberg?

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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2011-10-07 14:18:28
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Jadey said: »
So something like this should be more than fine for KI/time farming in Grauberg?

Indeed. Currently, I think that you couldn't do any better than this set.
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-10-07 14:31:34
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Well, aside from Novio Earring, that is.. that's pretty much prime-time. But who nit-picks here? Am I right?
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By Sylph.Decimus 2011-10-07 14:38:13
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Strendu Ring - Not terribly easy to get, but still not completely out of the question. Seems to be the most common upper tier drop from Voidwrought in the groups I've gone with.
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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2011-10-07 14:44:38
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Bismarck.Veruna said: »
Well, aside from Novio Earring, that is.. that's pretty much prime-time. But who nit-picks here? Am I right?
Correct, forgot about this one. >_<

@Deci
Going by my rule of thumb, 7 DEX > 4 MAB, until maths prove me wrong.

Only my personal opinion, not universally valid.
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By Lakshmi.Spoiled 2011-10-08 02:58:43
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My Cw's did 5.2k on T surveyors in altepa, w/out ascectics or Momento ( I was in a hurry) w/ Lion / Ultimate / B-Horn, JW if thats average dmg? i see alot of you guys doing 6k is that with our without buff?
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-10-08 03:00:01
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Should be either with Memento or Ascetics. The 6k that is.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-08 03:11:08
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Carbuncle.Grandthief said: »
Bismarck.Veruna said: »
Well, aside from Novio Earring, that is.. that's pretty much prime-time. But who nit-picks here? Am I right?
Correct, forgot about this one. >_<

@Deci
Going by my rule of thumb, 7 DEX > 4 MAB, until maths prove me wrong.

Only my personal opinion, not universally valid.

Correct, assuming Burst Affinity. Romanus cape is slightly better than Nifty Mantle, however.
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-10-09 21:09:57
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been working on fixing my CW set and was wondering should i use both moldavite with Hecate's or use a Dex+ ring over Moldavites?


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By Asura.Mekaider 2011-10-09 21:13:24
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Carbuncle.Cardinalgate said: »
been working on fixing my CW set and was wondering should i use both moldavite with Hecate's or use a Dex+ ring over Moldavites?



EDIT: using cuchulain belt over WW

If you got the +1 it would probably pull *slightly* ahead under BA. However Moldavite will probably pull slightly ahead when BA not up. Wouldn't be much difference either way.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-09 21:26:27
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Use Moldavite.
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By Sylph.Breakdown 2011-10-17 05:11:52
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Any good alternative for Maat's Cap / Aias Bonnet?

Also is there a good alternative for Thunder Sachet?

Do you use all self buffs? Or just 1?

I was thinking /BLM for MAB traits + MAB Blue trait and buffs like:

Memento Mori
Amplification
Plenuline Ambrace

Or should I set other SJ for more DEX?

Ánd the rest of my spell should contain DEX boosts?

Sorry for all the question :(
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-10-17 05:25:26
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MABIII is at level 50 for blm, so you aren't going to get it subbed. Subbing blm or rdm will get you the same tier (MAB2) and if you try setting your MAB trait via spells, it won't give you any additional MAB since you're already getting the trait through sub.

Not sure what you mean by self buffs, but before I pull I use Stoneskin, phalanx, occultation and now Harden Shell (Cocoon before).

Setting a different subjob purely for DEX won't net you a lot. Stick with /rdm for the buffs and MAB.

You honestly don't need Memento Mori/Amp/PE since you should just be using an astetic's anyways. And yeah, once you're done setting all the spells you'll need for pulling you can set towards stat boosts.
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By Sylph.Breakdown 2011-10-17 06:48:09
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Setting only DEX stat boosts?
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-17 06:51:18
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Leviathan.Alkalinejoe said: »
MABIII is at level 50 for blm, so you aren't going to get it subbed. Subbing blm or rdm will get you the same tier (MAB2) and if you try setting your MAB trait via spells, it won't give you any additional MAB since you're already getting the trait through sub.

Not sure what you mean by self buffs, but before I pull I use Stoneskin, phalanx, occultation and now Harden Shell (Cocoon before).

Setting a different subjob purely for DEX won't net you a lot. Stick with /rdm for the buffs and MAB.

You honestly don't need Memento Mori/Amp/PE since you should just be using an astetic's anyways. And yeah, once you're done setting all the spells you'll need for pulling you can set towards stat boosts.
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Pretty much all of this
A properly geared CW should be able to one-shot most any pull (bar the odd resist on a couple mobs), especially if you Whirl of Rage before sleeping.
Essentially the steps are:
Roll on up into camp like a chief
CA
Efflux
(by now the mobs are probably all here) Whirl of Rage
Dream flower while they're slept
BA
Charged whisker
And the deed is done, an all in all 20~25 second process.
If you're taking over 20~25 seconds to get rid of mobs because you're spamming like 6 fantods or something, I hate you -_-.
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-17 06:53:00
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Sylph.Breakdown said: »
Setting only DEX stat boosts?
In terms of total damage output yes, but after a point you'll be one-shotting regardless of any further DEX you may include, so you might just want to set some backup spells like Yawn or Delta thrust/Goblin rush (for killing off resisting stragglers), or spells with utility outside CW burning so you don't have to switch around so many spells.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-10-17 07:17:55
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Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
Sylph.Breakdown said: »
Setting only DEX stat boosts?
In terms of total damage output yes, but after a point you'll be one-shotting regardless of any further DEX you may include, so you might just want to set some backup spells like Yawn or Delta thrust/Goblin rush (for killing off resisting stragglers), or spells with utility outside CW burning so you don't have to switch around so many spells.

Goblin Rush has some DEX on it, so it is a 2-for-1 spell. If I am one shotting conserve MP is nice simnce I don't usually have MM set.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-10-17 07:39:18
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Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: »
Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
Sylph.Breakdown said: »
Setting only DEX stat boosts?
In terms of total damage output yes, but after a point you'll be one-shotting regardless of any further DEX you may include, so you might just want to set some backup spells like Yawn or Delta thrust/Goblin rush (for killing off resisting stragglers), or spells with utility outside CW burning so you don't have to switch around so many spells.

Goblin Rush has some DEX on it, so it is a 2-for-1 spell. If I am one shotting conserve MP is nice simnce I don't usually have MM set.
ehhhh you usually get an ISL after every pull and on the rare ones you don't there are temps and if you have a bad streak there is always convert lol. Conserve MP is pretty irrelevant.
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By Carbuncle.Cardinalgate 2011-10-19 22:06:10
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just got "Strendu Ring" is it worth dropping 1 of my rings?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-10-19 23:53:55
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Going by rule of thumb posted earlier, no.
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By Asura.Waisiubo 2011-10-21 14:49:39
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Hi,

Let me start off by saying my CW gear set is average if that so in the past when I used MM,RR, and Lion I did about 3500 which isn't bad to me as I didn't have the other 2 atmas, but I recently got BH so I go try again but with the same exact gear I barely break 3k and average about 2700, does Ultimate make that big a difference, how the heck am I getting less damage than before.

And to make it worst when I was doing some testing the other day some douche had come over to Fell Cleave the mobs I had slept after my first CW and WoR so I was pissed.
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