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Rani
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By Fenrir.Surgator 2011-01-03 22:59:37
Okay i was wondering since on ffwiki we don't have a lot of info of that captuar and he seem realy the nastyest one i have see! Can we kill it without brew? what good setup to use againt's him? because we tryed to kill it now and we whipe and we weren't event near is death because he was at 40% and the 40% we put it was with someone with a brew..... but i still think that every nm can be done without brew so does some ppl have some info on that nm and what setup is good againt him? i see a lot of ppl hit for 0 too on that nm , so time ot pop make him vulnerable to some weapon or moon phase?
Thank you for all the answer ppl will put!
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Odin.Arnor
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By Odin.Arnor 2011-01-03 23:02:54
tbh i have not seen or heard of anyone beating him without a brew or letting him deagro to let his defense reset... i dunno if its even possible outside of those 2 methods
Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-01-03 23:17:57
I saw an all pet ally kill it legit.
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Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-03 23:23:40
I've seen it killed several times without brew by well organized and geared linkshells, it just takes strategy and skill. If you use a brew and cannot kill it, you are doing it wrong. He has high magical resist, so use physical WS during brew. Do not WS him while he's using an ability or it heals him. A good rule of thumb is that you wont be able to kill it with a shout-party, unless you have multiple brews, or one smart player with a brew.
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Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-01-03 23:24:46
Really? I brewed on sam and jinpu/koki out did gekko/fudo
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-01-03 23:28:16
Phoenix.Kirana said: I've seen it killed several times without brew by well organized and geared linkshells, it just takes strategy and skill. If you use a brew and cannot kill it, you are doing it wrong. He has high magical resist, so use physical WS during brew. Do not WS him while he's using an ability or it heals him. A good rule of thumb is that you wont be able to kill it with a shout-party, unless you have multiple brews, or one smart player with a brew.
All you need is someone who knows how to turn and a good WS. Hell, even a brewing MNK can just Ascetics Fury it to death.
Odin.Arnor
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By Odin.Arnor 2011-01-03 23:33:15
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: Really? I brewed on sam and jinpu/koki out did gekko/fudo yeah ive noticed that.. seen a pic where jinpu did 65k to shinryu.. and for some reason magic blu spells do more then physical too..
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Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-01-03 23:42:27
Odin.Arnor said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: Really? I brewed on sam and jinpu/koki out did gekko/fudo yeah ive noticed that.. seen a pic where jinpu did 65k to shinryu.. and for some reason magic blu spells do more then physical too..
Not for some reason its because attack and fSTR cap while MAB and dINT do not.
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Valefor.Mithano
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By Valefor.Mithano 2011-01-03 23:51:03
Earth Crusher > Ascetic's Fury, for this reason, on monk. I hate to admit it, but that's the way it goes.
By Luz 2011-01-04 00:06:55
Way too many people use "fSTR" in posts on this site where it has little/no relevance to the topic at hand. "fSTR" is not even something in need of discussion if you're in any Abyssea zone and did not neglect to get your abyssite.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-04 00:27:12
Bismarck.Maxse said: Odin.Arnor said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: Really? I brewed on sam and jinpu/koki out did gekko/fudo yeah ive noticed that.. seen a pic where jinpu did 65k to shinryu.. and for some reason magic blu spells do more then physical too..
Not for some reason its because attack and fSTR cap while MAB and dINT do not. WSC doesn't cap either. Magic bonuses (read: MAB) just scale better than physical options.
Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-01-04 00:27:30
True strike is fun too, did 9k >.>
Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-04 01:15:59
I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
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By Lakshmi.Dkbutterflavah 2011-01-04 01:50:10
Our ls (Anduril) has killed Rani on our first try... but took us 2hrs... (of course without brewing..)
But he REALLY is a nasty nasty *** mob...
soo good luck to all~ (not very fun.. as you might think he is..)
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By Odin.Spccdog 2011-01-04 01:54:35
2 mnk whm rdm blm brd can do it without brew. one mnk on it then just have other monk grab it while one gets charmed and slept.smite ftw. cant be noob mnks in full af2 etc etc
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Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-01-04 02:03:49
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Odin.Arnor said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: Really? I brewed on sam and jinpu/koki out did gekko/fudo yeah ive noticed that.. seen a pic where jinpu did 65k to shinryu.. and for some reason magic blu spells do more then physical too..
Not for some reason its because attack and fSTR cap while MAB and dINT do not. WSC doesn't cap either. Magic bonuses (read: MAB) just scale better than physical options.
I know it doesn't but its irrelevant as it adds almost nothing.
Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-01-04 02:04:06
Phoenix.Kirana said: I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
Wrong try again.
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Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-04 02:31:52
Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
Wrong try again.
I have seen rani brewed many times, and phys ws have always done almost twice as much as magic ws. When I brewed it on thf, my evis did much more than aeolian.
A nin brewing used blade chi for 3kish, whereas jin was doing 9k. I don't see how magic is better for rani.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-01-04 02:32:54
Would recommend rangers with 10 tp/tic atmas set. Don't need to shoot Rani at all, just WS her when she's casting. Brought her down fairly quickly using this strategy. We had PLD for tank, shocking I know.
While I'm posting here, I'm curious if anyone has noticed her -dt not affecting ranged attacks? My coronach was doing exactly the same damage the whole fight. It took us about 30 minutes but I didn't notice any -dt whatsoever.
Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-01-04 02:33:07
Phoenix.Kirana said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
Wrong try again.
I have seen rani brewed many times, and phys ws have always done almost twice as much as magic ws. When I brewed it on thf, my evis did much more than aeolian.
A nin brewing used blade chi for 3kish, whereas jin was doing 9k. I don't see how magic is better for rani.
Pics or it didnt happen my jinpu was doing 10-30k. died in 3 WS ya i guess i should have used gekko sigh.
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By Pooman 2011-01-04 03:14:14
Bismarck.Helel said: Would recommend rangers with 10 tp/tic atmas set. Don't need to shoot Rani at all, just WS her when she's casting. Brought her down fairly quickly using this strategy. We had PLD for tank, shocking I know.
While I'm posting here, I'm curious if anyone has noticed her -dt not affecting ranged attacks? My coronach was doing exactly the same damage the whole fight. It took us about 30 minutes but I didn't notice any -dt whatsoever.
I'm curious to how you know Rani is female.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-01-04 03:15:18
Valefor.Mithano said: Earth Crusher > Ascetic's Fury, for this reason, on monk. I hate to admit it, but that's the way it goes. I'd be surprised if earth crusher beat Catalysm
By Pooman 2011-01-04 03:15:26
Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
Wrong try again.
I have seen rani brewed many times, and phys ws have always done almost twice as much as magic ws. When I brewed it on thf, my evis did much more than aeolian.
A nin brewing used blade chi for 3kish, whereas jin was doing 9k. I don't see how magic is better for rani.
Pics or it didnt happen my jinpu was doing 10-30k. died in 3 WS ya i guess i should have used gekko sigh.
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-01-04 04:09:55
im curious if blue physical spells spam is better than doing ws's? with rr and vv atma? i need a lil information on this because im clueless about blue magic potential with those atmas + brew
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By Asura.Darkultima 2011-01-04 04:47:06
Pooman said: Bismarck.Helel said: Would recommend rangers with 10 tp/tic atmas set. Don't need to shoot Rani at all, just WS her when she's casting. Brought her down fairly quickly using this strategy. We had PLD for tank, shocking I know.
While I'm posting here, I'm curious if anyone has noticed her -dt not affecting ranged attacks? My coronach was doing exactly the same damage the whole fight. It took us about 30 minutes but I didn't notice any -dt whatsoever.
I'm curious to how you know Rani is female. > It is directly analogous to the Queen of modern Chess.
>>Atma of the Merciless Matriarch
Fenrir.Surgator said:
we don't have a lot of info of that captuar
Jesus guys, it aint that difficult C-A-T-U-R-A-E >.>
Also i dont see where you saw rani has lame MDT? a friend of mine raped it in 1 min nuking her to death brewed lol
That ninja was just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to use lolbladechi, as blade yu does WAY more dmg
EDIT: also were he using any MAB atmas? >.>
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Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-04 05:08:03
Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Kirana said: I should have said for MOST jobs phys weaponskills are better on rani, just because he has high magic resistance. Jobs that have powerful magical WS might still be better off using them.
Wrong try again.
I have seen rani brewed many times, and phys ws have always done almost twice as much as magic ws. When I brewed it on thf, my evis did much more than aeolian.
A nin brewing used blade chi for 3kish, whereas jin was doing 9k. I don't see how magic is better for rani.
Pics or it didnt happen my jinpu was doing 10-30k. died in 3 WS ya i guess i should have used gekko sigh.
Jinpu falls under the category of "more powerful magical ws" in this case.
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Valefor.Mithano
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By Valefor.Mithano 2011-01-05 04:54:03
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Valefor.Mithano said: Earth Crusher > Ascetic's Fury, for this reason, on monk. I hate to admit it, but that's the way it goes. I'd be surprised if earth crusher beat Catalysm
I doubt it would, you're probably right. Monk I saw brew didn't have his staff up that high, though.
grozny said: To lazy atm to crop resize:
Terra's staff.
ATMA: Apoc, Ultimate, Beyond
Normal gear, not enough mab gear mnk could wear and didn't really spend anytime looking into what I had. Just threw a moldy earring on.
Pics:
By Sambb 2011-01-05 06:37:30
I saw a comment about rng earlier and I have fought this mob a couple of times and ive noticed that indeed rngs dmg does not seem to decrease at all through the fight.
We went in with 4 rngs
unfortunately 3 need better gear 1 was complete trash however
the one geared well was WS easy 1k sidewinder throughout the fight we got it to 40% held it for a while then some one brewed because they got bored.
If you take 4-5 rngs with usual tank set up it speeds up the fight trenendously if they know when to ws to not heal it.
Okay i was wondering since on ffwiki we don't have a lot of info of that captuar and he seem realy the nastyest one i have see! Can we kill it without brew? what good setup to use againt's him? because we tryed to kill it now and we whipe and we weren't event near is death because he was at 40% and the 40% we put it was with someone with a brew..... but i still think that every nm can be done without brew so does some ppl have some info on that nm and what setup is good againt him? i see a lot of ppl hit for 0 too on that nm , so time ot pop make him vulnerable to some weapon or moon phase?
Thank you for all the answer ppl will put!
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