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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-29 23:58:22
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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Bismarck.Xdudemanx said:
when this baby hits 88 mph we are going to see some serious ***
But the storm isn't heading in until the weekend...


No lightning=no time travel

lol, im just now seeing this thread and there's a back to the future marathon going on right now
g4 has one on every day.
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By Gravionblack 2010-12-29 23:59:04
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After reading over the topic and seeing what everyone says (it is all awesome btw) I guess even if there was a way to go back in time today would you really want to? In my mind i would not be the lest be interested, but that's just me i guess. >.>
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By Caitsith.Markus 2010-12-30 00:10:25
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What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

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By Gravionblack 2010-12-30 00:13:12
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Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

The would be something to see.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-12-30 00:14:15
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Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-12-30 00:18:42
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
You sir are my hero.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 00:21:22
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
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Beyond that, buy a video camera. Take video. Watch it, and you are looking at the past. Pictures, fossils, are all glimpses of things from the past.
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By Caitsith.Markus 2010-12-30 01:04:36
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
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Beyond that, buy a video camera. Take video. Watch it, and you are looking at the past. Pictures, fossils, are all glimpses of things from the past.

I meant more along the lines of this...
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-12-30 01:38:09
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What a douche, not letting us watch naked celebrities.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 05:59:12
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
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My question is what are you're thoughts on it do think it can be done?
Forward time travel is already possible. Just orbit a black hole for a bit at tremendous velocities and general relativity will put you into the future.

Backwards time travel probably isn't likely. Unless you believe in a universe-wide conspiracy theory, someone from the future would have already come back and told us.
Backwards time traveling occurs all the time. Only problem is it's happening at the sub atomic level. It's the very nature of quantum mechanics.

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"Down at the smallest of scales, smaller even than molecules, smaller than atoms, we get to a place called the quantum foam. This is where wormholes exist. Tiny tunnels or shortcuts through space and time constantly form, disappear, and reform within this quantum world. And they actually link two separate places and two different times."

The tunnels, unfortunately, are far too small for people to pass through -- just a billion-trillion-trillionths of a centimeter -- but physicists believe it may be possible to catch a wormhole and make it big enough for people, or spaceships, to enter, Hawking writes.

"Theoretically, a time tunnel or wormhole could do even more than take us to other planets. If both ends were in the same place, and separated by time instead of distance, a ship could fly in and come out still near Earth, but in the distant past. Maybe dinosaurs would witness the ship coming in for a landing," Hawking writes.
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By Alexander.Kolossus 2010-12-30 06:43:32
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There is another way around it, but it's not time travel in the sense most people think of it.. It's string theory, and in particular a Multi-verse, instead of there being one Universe, there are an infinite amount of Universes, some completely different from what we've experienced in this one, some with only the most minute changes, in one you were never born, but your brothers and sisters were, your parents met in the exact same way, at the same exact time, got married the same, everything is the exact same except you never existed. With this Multi-verse instead of going back in time to change a certain event, you're simply jumping to a universe where that event never happened.

This exact same theory was written into an animated Justice League movie. It was Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths.

But one thing I noticed missing from your theory was, there is a single, "Prime" universe, that all other multiverses revolve around. But in Crisis on Two Earths, it was dealing with "Earth Prime", that all other universe's Earths were based from. If Earth Prime was destroyed, everything across every multiverse would cease to exist. I guess the same could be applied to the "Prime" universe theory.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 06:48:28
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Alexander.Kolossus said:
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
There is another way around it, but it's not time travel in the sense most people think of it.. It's string theory, and in particular a Multi-verse, instead of there being one Universe, there are an infinite amount of Universes, some completely different from what we've experienced in this one, some with only the most minute changes, in one you were never born, but your brothers and sisters were, your parents met in the exact same way, at the same exact time, got married the same, everything is the exact same except you never existed. With this Multi-verse instead of going back in time to change a certain event, you're simply jumping to a universe where that event never happened.

This exact same theory was written into an animated Justice League movie. It was Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths.

But one thing I noticed missing from your theory was, there is a single, "Prime" universe, that all other multiverses revolve around. But in Crisis on Two Earths, it was dealing with "Earth Prime", that all other universe's Earths were based from. If Earth Prime was destroyed, everything across every multiverse would cease to exist. I guess the same could be applied to the "Prime" universe theory.
Because string theory is a real thing that scientists in the real world have been working on. A movie will use this concept and other real scientific concepts and adjust it accordingly to suit their story.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 06:54:08
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.

Oh Jaerik, you are so inspirational!

*vomits*
lmao

While light from distant stars that was emitted thousands of years ago is just now hitting us, to say that you are looking at the past is erroneous to say the least. Sure it sounds poetic though.

It's like saying when you see a jet rip through the sky and a few minutes later after you see it pass, you then hear the sound of it passing, you are hearing the past. Not really though, lol.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-12-30 07:35:56
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?
Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
Oh Jaerik, you are so inspirational! *vomits*
lmao While light from distant stars that was emitted thousands of years ago is just now hitting us, to say that you are looking at the past is erroneous to say the least. Sure it sounds poetic though. It's like saying when you see a jet rip through the sky and a few minutes later after you see it pass, you then hear the sound of it passing, you are hearing the past. Not really though, lol.

Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.

Time is relative. If you don't believe time to be relative, then perhaps you should write a book on why it's erroneous and poetic to believe so.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 07:48:46
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Because string theory is a real thing that scientists in the real world have been working on. A movie will use this concept and other real scientific concepts and adjust it accordingly to suit their story.
LOL's were had, as theory and real in the same sentence to describe something= oxymoron
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 07:52:50
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said:

Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.
Actually, all that means is that sound travels slower than light.

We constantly live a few nanoseconds in the past if you want to look at it from that perspective, as light takes some form of time to travel to our eyes, than a few more nanoseconds to be sent to our brains, then converted into the knowledge of what we are seeing. Nothing we experience in our lives from any of our senses is 'real time'
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By mehtastic 2010-12-30 09:03:23
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wow, a topic that stayed on topic for 5 pages on this forum.

That's GOT to be a record.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 09:40:21
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mehtastic said:
wow, a topic that stayed on topic for 5 pages on this forum.

That's GOT to be a record.
We could fix that very quickly.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 10:22:59
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Because string theory is a real thing that scientists in the real world have been working on. A movie will use this concept and other real scientific concepts and adjust it accordingly to suit their story.
LOL's were had, as theory and real in the same sentence to describe something= oxymoron
/sigh

You do understand what the word theory means in the scientific world right?

Theory: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 10:26:20
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:

Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.
Actually, all that means is that sound travels slower than light.

We constantly live a few nanoseconds in the past if you want to look at it from that perspective, as light takes some form of time to travel to our eyes, than a few more nanoseconds to be sent to our brains, then converted into the knowledge of what we are seeing. Nothing we experience in our lives from any of our senses is 'real time'
Funny how you explain my point there, yet still confuse the meaning of the word theory in the scientific world.

/shrugs
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 10:28:53
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
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Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.
Actually, all that means is that sound travels slower than light.

We constantly live a few nanoseconds in the past if you want to look at it from that perspective, as light takes some form of time to travel to our eyes, than a few more nanoseconds to be sent to our brains, then converted into the knowledge of what we are seeing. Nothing we experience in our lives from any of our senses is 'real time'
Funny how you explain my point there, yet still confuse the meaning of the word theory in the scientific world.

/shrugs
to our brains, then converted into the knowledge of what we are seeing. Nothing we experience in our lives from any of our senses is 'real time'
Funny how you explain my point there, yet still confuse the meaning of the word theory in the scientific world.

/shrugs
Actually, I don't confuse the meaning of the word theory in the scientific world. Just stating that it is a widely accepted fact, not a proven truth (of which science states no such thing exists) but you used it as though string theory was a proof to the matters previously discussed.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 10:29:26
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?
Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
Oh Jaerik, you are so inspirational! *vomits*
lmao While light from distant stars that was emitted thousands of years ago is just now hitting us, to say that you are looking at the past is erroneous to say the least. Sure it sounds poetic though. It's like saying when you see a jet rip through the sky and a few minutes later after you see it pass, you then hear the sound of it passing, you are hearing the past. Not really though, lol.

Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.

Time is relative. If you don't believe time to be relative, then perhaps you should write a book on why it's erroneous and poetic to believe so.
With that logic then we are always viewing the past as it takes time for the senses to transmit to the brain and then more time for the brain to process those transmissions.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 10:31:11
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Caitsith.Markus said:
What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?
Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
Oh Jaerik, you are so inspirational! *vomits*
lmao While light from distant stars that was emitted thousands of years ago is just now hitting us, to say that you are looking at the past is erroneous to say the least. Sure it sounds poetic though. It's like saying when you see a jet rip through the sky and a few minutes later after you see it pass, you then hear the sound of it passing, you are hearing the past. Not really though, lol.

Doesn't sound erroneous to me. You see the plane - it creeps along the sky - then all of a sudden you start hearing the plane. If it was in the "present" you'd hear the plane at the same time you saw it.

Time is relative. If you don't believe time to be relative, then perhaps you should write a book on why it's erroneous and poetic to believe so.
With that logic then we are always viewing the past as it takes time for the senses to transmit to the brain and then more time for the brain to process those transmissions.
I already stated this...
Ifrit.Daemun said:

Actually, all that means is that sound travels slower than light.

We constantly live a few nanoseconds in the past if you want to look at it from that perspective, as light takes some form of time to travel to our eyes, than a few more nanoseconds to be sent to our brains, then converted into the knowledge of what we are seeing. Nothing we experience in our lives from any of our senses is 'real time'
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 10:35:57
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Your quote got messed up lol, don't feel like looking what was missed.

@Daemun

Before this goes any further my point was that Hollywood will grab concepts from science and twist them to suit their needs. That's all.

To me it seemed like the guy I was replying to was doing the reverse. That is he was telling someone that they missed the prime universe part of the theory he saw from a movie.

Surely you get what I meant now, right?

Hollywood introduced the prime universe things, not scientists.


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Ifrit.Daemun said:

I already stated this...
I know
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-30 11:02:14
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Fairy.Spence said:
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time travel is not possible unless the laws of nature established that there are different time warps involved in the same plane.

And that is impossible, time is constant and instant.

from what I understand... and believe. But would like to know that time isn't constant and the same.

It's been proven that time is different outside the earth.
the perception of time yes.

but time is the same. For example, from afar you see things later.

If i were to throw a ball and you could see it 100 light years from now, you would see it perhaps 1 year after I have thrown it. but you can't go back in time to stop me from throwing the ball, because it's something that has already happened even if you saw it 1 year later. Yes light takes time to travel, but doesn't mean that the motion as well. What happens here is the same as 100 light years from here, only it is perceived differently. Still, you can't stop something that has already happened. for example.. throwing the ball.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-30 11:06:20
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
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What would you say about the likelihood of just viewing the past, not traveling to it or effecting it in any way?

Every time you look up at the stars, you already are.
exacly! but if you were to go to 'that place' you're looking at, things would be so much more different from what you're seeing here.

Seeing the past is possible from a distance because light takes time to travel it's not instant, time is instant. But the things wrapped up in time aren't.

So traveling to the past is impossible for now
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-12-30 11:11:06
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Your quote got messed up lol, don't feel like looking what was missed.

@Daemun

Before this goes any further my point was that Hollywood will grab concepts from science and twist them to suit their needs. That's all.

To me it seemed like the guy I was replying to was doing the reverse. That is he was telling someone that they missed the prime universe part of the theory he saw from a movie.

Surely you get what I meant now, right?

Hollywood introduced the prime universe things, not scientists.


Agreed
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