FFXIV Under New Managment?

jumping is dumb swiming is also dumb there no point in jumping. I never got the point of that but w/e wow for me is lame and i get bored of it too soon. FFXIV have noting and i still play hours a day.

I'm not a wow supporter, but yeah I can see how jumping is dumb. I love getting caught on steps in FFXI or other terrain variations that arn't well thought out. Good thing they don't let you jump otherwise you might get where you need to go without frustration!

Also, if you really think about it, they were trying to go for a realistic feel with FFXIV. Jumping/swimming/flying in full chainmail would never happen...especially not for a lala

Jumping and Swimming isn't realistic?

Lmao even the site creator is comparing this to WoW and people are giving me grief about my WoW comments what ever 0.o.

If you couldn't jump in XIV because of some intentional design decision regarding armor realism and gameplay, that'd be fine.

But let's be honest here.

You can't jump because they're using 8 year old crappy tech with bad terrain geometry cohesion, poor clipping QA, and cut huge corners on region construction by making everything a facade only viewable from one angle, let alone from the air. They lock you onto the ground so you won't accidentally see what a half-assed job they did.

It might not matter to you. I mean, I played XI for 6 years and never felt the need to jump or swim. But let's not pretend the reasons are anything more than they are.

Wow has people that play from like 12-50 years old so the #'s are going to be crazy. WoW has been a very popular game for years but its not for hard core gamers. WoW is like the Wii bowling game every one plays its almost like a family game. I'm glad FF is not like that I really don't want to play with little kids.

So essentially, what we have is WoW on the easy side, FFXI on the difficult side and FFXIV somewhere in the middle. This is where they *** up. You can't have the hardcore players b/c the game is easy, but you can't have casuals usually because it is too difficult at some points. They tried to balance things and ended up making things stupid for both parties involved.

Played WoW for the first time yesterday.

Within the first 30 minutes I had fought a major city battle, held off two NPC invasions, leapt over burning buildings, turned into a werewolf, sabotaged another undead invasion, rescued several families from mortar fire, catapulted myself onto a pirate ship, escaped via horseback, survived an earthquake, sank an entire town and swam/dove to rescue survivors, crashed a merchant caravan, tricked a 50' tall ogre into slaying a massive enemy army, rescued people from crocodiles, drove a tank, held off a wave of undead with mortar fire, flew up to a giant circling zeppelin and blew it out of the sky with an engine fire, and escaped via ship.

I still find it slightly distasteful that I'm playing WoW, but holy ***' jesus -- that is content. And that particular experience is all brand new as of last week! I have never experienced a newbie starter experience so compelling and well done.

By comparison in FFXIV, I got... well, none of that. I got one cutscene and then a few hundred hours of pointless grinding. Hell, the tech is so bad my guy can't even step over a 6" bump in the ground, let alone jump, fly, swim, or drive a tank.

I may not like to admit it, but it's pretty obvious why this game has 12 million active users: it's insanely fun.

Try playing the first races, they are meh quests are meh, repetitive and the same over meh all over, but I remember when I started Death Knight, that was fun. Basically the previous is nothing alike the new races in WoW.

Age really has nothing to do with. The game is easy, imo. I don't find easy to be fun. I like being tortured in games as long as it's rewarding. Due to the game being "easy," they get a lot of players. Now, you can separate WoW and FFXI into 2 different categories with FFXIV somewhere in between.

WoW: relatively easy gameplay with tutorials for everyting and instant rewards. Quests are easy and easily trackable. There is a quest log. Grinding is easily soloable through either quests or just flat grinding for most jobs.

FFXI: difficult gameplay with no tutorials and long term rewards that are earned through weeks-years of work. Quests can be difficult and trivial with little to no explaination. Partying is required to level for most jobs.

FFXIV: a few tutorials with still relatively easy gameplay as far as leveling. Quests are easier than they were in FFXI because they give a NPC name in your quest log to talk to. There IS a quest log. Soloable grinding is possible for any job, but becomes more difficult 20+ for most jobs.

WoW <------FFXIV------> FFXI

So essentially, what we have is WoW on the easy side, FFXI on the difficult side and FFXIV somewhere in the middle. This is where they *** up. You can't have the hardcore players b/c the game is easy, but you can't have casuals usually because it is too difficult at some points. They tried to balance things and ended up making things stupid for both parties involved.

I've played after the november patch, they removed auto-targeting which subsequently made me NOT want to play again. They also still have laggy battles and UI lag. The UI lag was improved but not eradicated. And graphics don't make a game, the Atari is an awesome machine so comparing Wow to Atari isn't exactly an insult unless you have ADHD and need the newest fanciest graphics available.

Well they already lost me. If I could get a refund for the game I purchased I would. I've told everyone who has ever asked me about FFXIV that the graphics are spectacular... and... that's... about... it..., not to buy it.

I also wanted to start early, get a head start on everyone and be max level for endgame. An endgame that never was implemented and doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. The game play was so horrendous that even playing for "free" (I still paid $50 for this) isn't worth my time. If they reinvent the entire game it would only seems fair to people who have quit and people who have not bought the game that they restart everyone at a "relaunch" of the game. Especially if the entire game mechanics have changed to the point where its a completely different game. However, I do see how the loyal fans who have convinced themselves into continuing playing would be upset about it.

I don't know, I guess I can't see anyone ever playing FFXIV for any length of time. The adventure, exploration, fun and magic just isn't there. It was only after the "newness" of the game wore off that I saw this and decided enough was enough. Apparently a lot of people feel the same way and SE has publicly acknowledged this. For this I am grateful.

I want to see FFXIV be a worthy successor to XI and the Final Fantasy series in general. I hope they can make this game into what it should have been, no matter how long it takes them. I just won't lie to myself and pretend that this game is worth playing until that day arrives.

Played WoW for the first time yesterday.

Within the first 30 minutes I had fought a major city battle, held off two NPC invasions, leapt over burning buildings, turned into a werewolf, sabotaged another undead invasion, rescued several families from mortar fire, catapulted myself onto a pirate ship, escaped via horseback, survived an earthquake, sank an entire town and swam/dove to rescue survivors, crashed a merchant caravan, tricked a 50' tall ogre into slaying a massive enemy army, rescued people from crocodiles, drove a tank, held off a wave of undead with mortar fire, flew up to a giant circling zeppelin and blew it out of the sky with an engine fire, and escaped via ship.

I still find it slightly distasteful that I'm playing WoW, but holy ***' jesus -- that is content. And that particular experience is all brand new as of last week! I have never experienced a newbie starter experience so compelling and well done.

By comparison in FFXIV, I got... well, none of that. I got one cutscene and then a few hundred hours of pointless grinding. Hell, the tech is so bad my guy can't even step over a 6" bump in the ground, let alone jump, fly, swim, or drive a tank.

I may not like to admit it, but it's pretty obvious why this game has 12 million active users: it's insanely fun.

If you guys dont like the game why making a new topic about the same thing? we are so far from topic it's not funny. we takling about how lame ffxiv is -.- then quit stop bitching and return to fail ffxi or wow or just wait.

There is a big difference between actually comparing XIV to WoW by talking about strengths/weaknesses and dismissively telling anyone who says something bad about XIV to go play WoW, which you do far too often.

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I would love to hear your opinion on the game, did you post anywhere else about your experience?
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about FF14, I was pissed at SE and the game when I joined the alpha and saw that they didn't learn a thing from their experience with FF11 or other MMO, now that they are seems to be trying (finally..) to fix their mistake I'm less angry about them and slightly...just slightly more interested on what they are going to do..




Hope? haha, it was lost a long ..long time ago.

◆Date & Times
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.

◆Contents
New enemies, including notorious monsters
New guildleves
Many new recipes
Further improvements to the naming and organization of market wards
An additional free retainer slot
Improved response times on the retainer exchange interface
Further improvements to the user interface
Increased text limit for chat log input

Different teams worked on 14 than those that worked on 11...so there was no transfer of knowledge. Your first point holds no water.

That is the entire point.

SE appears to be the only company in MMO history who's produced two games of the same genre with absolutely no personnel or knowledge transfer. Instead, they evidently outsourced most of it to sweatshops in China. Why are you defending that decision?

LOL @ sweatshops in china, people in sweatshops aren't smart enough to design games

Sounds like someone has never heard of Foxconn. However, just to humour you:
Perhaps that is why this one is so horribly made.