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 Ragnarok.Darkpearl
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By Ragnarok.Darkpearl 2010-12-11 14:11:39
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I though all that years spent in a MMO like FFXI should have teach them what is good or bad in a game, but seem like they started from 0 without considering anything from what they learned with FFXI (mistakes). Oh well... I see what the new team are capable to do. Can still play FFXI and go enjoy some new stuff from abyssea. One last thing: I think have experience on Offline games isn't the same as have experience in Online games. he might have made Vagrant Story (which i find a beauty game) but need experience in online games. At last I think so. But I read that developer from FFXI will come help for FFXIV so *prey* (or was pray, my english sucks).
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By Eireamhon 2010-12-11 14:40:58
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hehe It's *pray but no worries. We understand what you mean. ;-)

We all just need to be patient. That's one thing as a single parent with 2 boys I have had to learn. :-P But I think and pray myself they will fix the issues. My only real concern is, they will go in the opposite direction and make it really easy. I still want a challenge but not having things as simple as a mail system to trade or give items to other players is fail IMHO. It's a basic attribute in a MMO.
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By hyuran 2010-12-11 15:13:00
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well i hope they take care of the biggest issue with this game... players having shadows inside caves at night! i mean really? c'mon SE what were you thinking? /facepalm
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By Kurokikaze01 2010-12-11 15:36:10
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Show your support for the new management. Change We Can Believe In!
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By Evangelist 2010-12-11 15:58:50
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Dubont said:
It would make absolutely no sense at all to do a character to wipe. They are giving you free months to play the game and level up, so if you get behind, it's your own fault.

So when they wipe your character you can't complain all the money you wasted paying for the service? there's 2 sides to every arguement.
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By Unmei 2010-12-11 16:41:18
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Evangelist said:
Dubont said:
It would make absolutely no sense at all to do a character to wipe. They are giving you free months to play the game and level up, so if you get behind, it's your own fault.

So when they wipe your character you can't complain all the money you wasted paying for the service? there's 2 sides to every arguement.

Yeah your forgetting the fact that people initially purchased the game its not like beta where its just free period and they tell you ahead of time that characters will be wiped many times. I can "almost" guarantee that there won't be any character wipes just for the simple fact people had to buy the game.
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By Eireamhon 2010-12-11 16:51:13
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Evangelist said:
Dubont said:
It would make absolutely no sense at all to do a character to wipe. They are giving you free months to play the game and level up, so if you get behind, it's your own fault.
So when they wipe your character you can't complain all the money you wasted paying for the service? there's 2 sides to every arguement.

We aren't paying for service. It's been free. And while yes, it would suck, at least all of us would hopefully restart from the beginning with a game that is now more polished. I still agree with Unmei that it most likely will NOT happen. ^o-

@Kurokikaze01 LMFAO!
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By Evangelist 2010-12-11 17:22:53
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Eireamhon said:
Evangelist said:
Dubont said:
It would make absolutely no sense at all to do a character to wipe. They are giving you free months to play the game and level up, so if you get behind, it's your own fault.
So when they wipe your character you can't complain all the money you wasted paying for the service? there's 2 sides to every arguement.

We aren't paying for service. It's been free. And while yes, it would suck, at least all of us would hopefully restart from the beginning with a game that is now more polished. I still agree with Unmei that it most likely will NOT happen. ^o-

@Kurokikaze01 LMFAO!

honestly i really have no preference whether it does or not. i haven't purchased 14 since reading many reviews about it, maybe in the future if i see better reviews or player feedback.

The point i was making is it would be totally criminal of them to be charging you for all these months from start until the day they wipe(if they decided to do so) they would have practically stolen 100's of dollars off each user.. (which is not the sort of publicity or attention they want brought to their franchise)

in any case best of luck to all FF14 members i will 1 day rely on your feedback to decide whether or not to leave 11 in the past and move on to 14.
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By Sylph.Pwrlessgirl 2010-12-11 17:54:17
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I have tried in a few ocations to make parties but I only get 1-2 people on them, sometimes yes 8+ people.... HOWEVER in 3 months I only had two good XP parties.... why? people just don't bother to join, they can solo a lot of crap themselves no need to party.

This makes the game BORING, if I wanted to SOLO i just go back to FF10 or FF13. Management at S.E. forgot:
1. This is an MMO and we need an incentive for people to join parties.
2. AND why they haven't figure out a /sea all invite function + a Player > PARTY > LIFT FLAG?


I think the effort in making this game difficult for RMT's to exploit it's resources is the same blade hurting/discouraging people from having fun.

Geez .. when I feel like sleeping, I just start crafting!!


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By Kittie 2010-12-11 18:18:09
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Evangelist said:
Eireamhon said:
Evangelist said:
Dubont said:
It would make absolutely no sense at all to do a character to wipe. They are giving you free months to play the game and level up, so if you get behind, it's your own fault.
So when they wipe your character you can't complain all the money you wasted paying for the service? there's 2 sides to every arguement.

We aren't paying for service. It's been free. And while yes, it would suck, at least all of us would hopefully restart from the beginning with a game that is now more polished. I still agree with Unmei that it most likely will NOT happen. ^o-

@Kurokikaze01 LMFAO!

honestly i really have no preference whether it does or not. i haven't purchased 14 since reading many reviews about it, maybe in the future if i see better reviews or player feedback.

The point i was making is it would be totally criminal of them to be charging you for all these months from start until the day they wipe(if they decided to do so) they would have practically stolen 100's of dollars off each user.. (which is not the sort of publicity or attention they want brought to their franchise)

in any case best of luck to all FF14 members i will 1 day rely on your feedback to decide whether or not to leave 11 in the past and move on to 14.

They will not wipe characters. We purchased the game with intentions of FFXI to be the 'final' product not a beta.

Does it really make sense for them to wipe hundreds of hours of work people put into classes and crafts? No. If they ever did this I would stab myself in the chest. Then play Battlefield 3 when it comes out.

I don't play as much as some people, but I'm ready for change and more content. I still think this game has A LOT of potential. As a person who puts in 1-3 hours a day on this game I really don't see why people are really upset. This is also my first time playing an MMO out at release date...so I don't know if it is normal for an MMO to not be as polished at the start.

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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-12-11 18:27:22
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Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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By Unmei 2010-12-11 19:24:57
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Sylph.Pwrlessgirl said:
people just don't bother to join, they can solo a lot of crap themselves no need to party.

This is not true at all people have this misconstrued...do you realize you rank up way faster in a group vs solo. There is no comparison after lv 30 its like pointless to solo vs a group. People are not partying unless its with their LS because its frustrating to form party's because there is no seek function. Having no seek function is whats crippling party play.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2010-12-11 21:50:16
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SE just returned the game to pre-release development mode. We've all been playing BETA this whole time -- which we sort of knew anyways, since it was never ready for market -- but at least now they're not pretending anymore: the game isn't ready for primetime and they're going to wait until it is, with no pretense of a timetable. It'll be done when it's done, and in the meantime we all get to play a free game in development.

I agree the problem here probably wasn't the development team (every indication seemed to be that they knew what they were doing, they just didn't have enough time); that it was management pushing them to release an unfinished product. But Wada isn't going to resign. A CEO will throw underlings under the bus looooong before he'll relinquish his own paycheck. Obviously, the first patch didn't have the response they were hoping for: and if it wasn't an FF title, they probably would've scrapped the project altogether at that point. Since they can't do that without crippling the business (investors would flee in a mass exodus) they pinned it on a few now-rolling heads and promised a triumphant return somewhere-or-other down the line.

We'll see if that actually happens. Unfortunately, if it doesn't, it may seriously undermine SE. And I bet Wada will HAVE to resign then whether he likes it or not.

I'm going back to FFXI until they add more things to do. I probably won't be alone: after this announcement, a lot of people will probably be of the attitude "I'll wait and see what happens." In the meantime, their user base will dwindle to a trickle, and the game's success or failure will depend on how much noise they can stir up during the comeback and how much of that noise is based on actual, solid developments. If they blow the second attempt, that's it, dude; game over, man, game over.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-11 22:51:01
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Not being funny, but I wouldn't mind a refund until it is ready.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-12-12 03:21:01
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They can start by changing the damn battle system back to the style of FF instead of this WoW ***.
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By Asura.Kayze 2010-12-12 06:27:15
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
They can start by changing the damn battle system back to the style of FF instead of this WoW ***.

What is wrong with the battle system in your opinion? I personally like it how freeflowing and dynamic it is.
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By Asura.Kayze 2010-12-12 07:07:44
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Asura.Kayze said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
They can start by changing the damn battle system back to the style of FF instead of this WoW ***.

What is wrong with the battle system in your opinion? I personally like it how freeflowing and dynamic it is.

We sorta-kinda got the goombas ls back together. You should come back to xi.


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By Midgardsormr.Zenshiro 2010-12-12 07:12:14
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Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-
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By Asura.Kayze 2010-12-12 07:18:10
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Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-


Hope that wasnt directed at me, as I am definitely NOT quitting FFXIV. I am enjoying every minute of my time in ffxiv and despite its shortcomings, I realise the massive amount of potential it has, stored within the core of the game. >_>
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By Midgardsormr.Zenshiro 2010-12-12 08:09:07
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Asura.Kayze said:
Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-


Hope that wasnt directed at me, as I am definitely NOT quitting FFXIV. I am enjoying every minute of my time in ffxiv and despite its shortcomings, I realise the massive amount of potential it has, stored within the core of the game. >_>

At least someone know what the game can hold. There no point in not playing matter if it still in beta or not. We getting a F2P game and they not going to del our char. So once the game is fix and the PS3 come out we be 50 and once the cap come we be ready to take down whatever the game hold for us. If ppl want to join back on fail FFXI which every update they done broke the game then go for it.
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By Lynxblade 2010-12-12 09:09:54
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Garuda.Trunksc said:
Hmmm.... From SE- While more than two months have passed since the official launch of FINAL FANTASY XIV service, we deeply regret that the game has yet to achieve the level of enjoyability that FINAL FANTASY fans have come to expect from the franchise, and for this we offer our sincerest of apologies. To realize this vision, and in doing so, provide our customers with a better game experience, we have assembled our company's top talent and resources. We realize time is of the essence and are fully determined to provide our customers with quality service. It is because of this that we ask our customers to be patient until we are able to confidently present them with a concrete plan outlining FINAL FANTASY XIV's new direction. The free trial period will be extended until that time. Full Article
SORRY

Lol , SE reminding me of BP atm, WERE SORRY!
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By Unmei 2010-12-12 10:09:33
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Asura.Kayze said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
They can start by changing the damn battle system back to the style of FF instead of this WoW ***.

What is wrong with the battle system in your opinion? I personally like it how freeflowing and dynamic it is.

Yeah I like this battle system way better than 11's. But what they can do is use the same method as 11 does with targeting, the auto targeting in 14 is fubar.
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By Eireamhon 2010-12-12 10:33:16
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Unmei said:
Yeah I like this battle system way better than 11's. But what they can do is use the same method as 11 does with targeting, the auto targeting in 14 is fubar.
That is true, about the auto-target system. And then they released the patch to fix it; then it was broken, then they did emergency mait. to fix that which put the targeting back to the original broken way...or something like that. W/e.

@ Lynxblade.... rofl that was really funny. ^ ^
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-12-12 10:56:53
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The whole battle system needs some work.... Being a mage and Needing to /engage then /look at the mob to cast is annoying.

Having to stare at people to cure them is annoying as well especially in a constantly moving party


The main job exp is massively HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. It is basically skilling up..... the amount of stupid grind to go up a job lvl is /sigh but physical level is stupid easy to cap >.>


GL at fixing the game and when "they" say its fixed our expectation will be massively high.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-12-12 11:51:31
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Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-
Uh maybe because FFXIV isn't fun to play? I left FFXIV and don't plan on returning until they make it into something worth my time. If you think its fun, more power to you. I'm not going to force myself to play and hate every minute of it so I'm not "left behind".
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By Midgardsormr.Zenshiro 2010-12-12 14:10:12
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-
Uh maybe because FFXIV isn't fun to play? I left FFXIV and don't plan on returning until they make it into something worth my time. If you think its fun, more power to you. I'm not going to force myself to play and hate every minute of it so I'm not "left behind".

what do you think games are at start? fun? it all about Ranking up your class the max rank/lvl too they release stuff. FFXI was not all that fun at release then again JP was the one who test all lag,menu lag,bugs,d/c and no ah for us lol. but to each it own enjoy playing FFXI i guess. i left FFXI becuase it full of *** now and all they care about is themself at least the 3 worlds i have been where all the same hoping it was just one world. Top of that they broke the ***out of ffxi with all the 90 gear and *** :) but i guess if you don't enjoy ffxiv then pay for ffxi,.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-12 14:13:46
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Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
Ppl who leaving and returning back to FFXI what the point? when they fix all the stuff on FFXIV you be left behind and you have noting but your low rank class. i just don't see no reason to return back to a dead game like FFXI at least FFXIV is fun and it free -.-
Uh maybe because FFXIV isn't fun to play? I left FFXIV and don't plan on returning until they make it into something worth my time. If you think its fun, more power to you. I'm not going to force myself to play and hate every minute of it so I'm not "left behind".

what do you think games are at start? fun? it all about Ranking up your class the max rank/lvl too they release stuff. FFXI was not all that fun at release then again JP was the one who test all lag,menu lag,bugs,d/c and no ah for us lol. but to each it own enjoy playing FFXI i guess. i left FFXI becuase it full of *** now and all they care about is themself at least the 3 worlds i have been where all the same hoping it was just one world. Top of that they broke the ***out of ffxi with all the 90 gear and *** :) but i guess if you don't enjoy ffxiv then pay for ffxi,.

If the game isn't fun due to lag, glitches and the game system being bad in general I'm not going to play it. XI wasn't exactly riveting to level up in, but at least I didn't get a huge amount of bugs.
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2010-12-12 15:30:33
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Games usually are fun at the start! In fact my most fun moments in MMO are being a "newb". Getting abilities for the first time, exploring stuff, randomly dying to super hard mobs that I have no idea what they are...hehe. In the start of FFXI I had so much fun, everything was so new and exciting when I first started! Getting my WHM AF1 set..haha I loved it. Same thing with Aion...

I suppose I had a similar feeling with XIV but after about 10 minutes of starting I was like okay...what is there to do...>.> Did some leve and then stood around wondering what to do next. I still play and I still will..it just doesn't have the "oomph" all the other MMO did for me ; ; I hope someday soon it will~
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By Midgardsormr.Zenshiro 2010-12-12 15:55:29
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Lakshmi.Cesil said:
Games usually are fun at the start! In fact my most fun moments in MMO are being a "newb". Getting abilities for the first time, exploring stuff, randomly dying to super hard mobs that I have no idea what they are...hehe. In the start of FFXI I had so much fun, everything was so new and exciting when I first started! Getting my WHM AF1 set..haha I loved it. Same thing with Aion...

I suppose I had a similar feeling with XIV but after about 10 minutes of starting I was like okay...what is there to do...>.> Did some leve and then stood around wondering what to do next. I still play and I still will..it just doesn't have the "oomph" all the other MMO did for me ; ; I hope someday soon it will~

i'm enjoying myself and aion was not so much fun at start -.- that ***sucked. WoW thatshit not fun today and that saying something. The fact that you playing a game that is free and which you can just log on a day and do your leves, and rank up your craft are not that bad and don't know what bugs,lag you talking about cuz sense nov update i'm good the only lag iget is due to my low pc lol.
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