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By Halfpint 2010-11-22 11:28:21
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Went into attowha over the weekend, being a RDM was at Percy and we wipped (draw-in, bind, poison, WS, -aga spell was all said and done in about 5 seconds) , another alliance grabbed the mob and killed it but when it died they announced the seals that had dropped and then invited ppl from our group to lot for the seals. Definitely didn't expect that. We alternated for a while and it worked out fine. I have yet to find ppl who were not willing to alternate. While one is fighting NM the other can be farming pops or whatever.

I have only come across one group that was not willing to share but that was when the second set of maws has just opened.
 
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-11-22 11:44:05
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People have this unjustifiable sense of entitlement. Honestly stop and think about this. You go to a pop point and find a group there. You ask nicely if they'll alternate pops or work together with your group. If they say yes, hurray! Everyone is happy and the world is fair! BUT! If they say no, you somehow believe you have the right to be angry and seek retribution because they don't want to "share" or team up. If you can't live with the possible outcomes of a proposal, then don't project one and just wait your turn or come back later. People do have the right to say no.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-22 13:01:32
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
It's not move over get out of the way. It's best man wins, so spam your trade macro, and we'll trade ours.

LOL!
"best man wins".
Well, at least if nothing else, some laughter was had from this "debate".

Dude, spamming a trade macro to a ???, even if you do a REALLY good job of it ... does not equate to being a "man" in any way/shape/form, nevermind a "best man".
The only thing it equates to is being a loser, a basement-dweller (or in your case, a pink house basement-dweller), and potentially even a "best basement-dweller".

Some of the posters here are right; at least the 3-minute repop timer on the "???" is a VERY welcome change from the absurd 15-minute repop timers on Sky NMs and even lesser stuff like Alastor Antlion.

Still, the FFXI douchebags, with their burning need to feel superior via petty contrived "competitions" ... I can't believe they've taken their insecurities to the point of "camping" Abyssea NM "???" pop-spots.

Oh wait, no, I can believe it. I'm just disgusted by it.
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By Asura.Lecreuset 2010-11-22 13:09:30
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
im mayad cuz ffxi haz no training wheels
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By Asura.Echandra 2010-11-22 13:09:31
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Best man...it's more like who takes a JP player with them to pop the "???"

Don't know about other folks...but that "???" never seems to show up, just a purple NM =/
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By Asura.Lecreuset 2010-11-22 13:15:12
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Asura.Echandra said:
Best man...it's more like who takes a JP player with them to pop the "???"

Don't know about other folks...but that "???" never seems to show up, just a purple NM =/

Do what Draus and I do.
Hit 'em with "Please do not abbreviate your words."
Usually they'll type back in chicken scratch and walk away pissed.
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By Asura.Lecreuset 2010-11-22 13:15:44
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Asura.Lecreuset said:
Asura.Echandra said:
Best man...it's more like who takes a JP player with them to pop the "???"

Don't know about other folks...but that "???" never seems to show up, just a purple NM =/

Do what Draus and I do.
When they type something, hit 'em with "Please do not abbreviate your words."
Usually they'll type back in chicken scratch and walk away pissed.

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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-22 13:19:45
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Today, starring Lecreuset, with Tigerwoods on back-up vocals:

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By Alexander.Varistor 2010-11-22 13:23:14
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Go Elanabelle!!! nice to see other people feel the same way about some of the people on here as I do.
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By Asura.Echandra 2010-11-22 13:37:06
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damn. did he call out soccer mom's in that freestyle at the end? What a douchebag ~_~

At least people haven't hit rock bottom with NM mpks over the ??? like say...2005/2006ish HNM. I saw someone use Sippoy to help another group doing Armillaria and friday my XP party on crawlers had a disgruntled person drug Ayravata over to us. I guess I could applaud the dedication to drag that clear over to us?

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By Asura.Lecreuset 2010-11-22 13:57:04
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
still mayad
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-11-22 13:57:48
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itt: it's totally reasonable to make a large group wait 33 min between pops, while a smaller group waits 8 min between pops.

never run into this situation before, since a) i don't have a big shell so we don't kill anything all that fast, and b) server has very few NA compared to JP. JP are usually pretty good about sharing t1s and stuff, but never had to compete with them for other mobs because we don't pop nms in JP primetime.

the ??? were never a really great thing. any random jackass can cockblock a large group by taking forever to solo a mob. it's worse in abyssea, since a) they're probably not doing something you can gm them for, and b) they're not just wasting everyone's time, they're wasting everyone's limited abyssea time.

with that said, i'm not sure what a better system would be.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-11-22 14:36:57
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
It's not move over get out of the way. It's best man wins, so spam your trade macro, and we'll trade ours.

LOL!
"best man wins".
Well, at least if nothing else, some laughter was had from this "debate".

Dude, spamming a trade macro to a ???, even if you do a REALLY good job of it ... does not equate to being a "man" in any way/shape/form, nevermind a "best man".
The only thing it equates to is being a loser, a basement-dweller (or in your case, a pink house basement-dweller), and potentially even a "best basement-dweller".

Some of the posters here are right; at least the 3-minute repop timer on the "???" is a VERY welcome change from the absurd 15-minute repop timers on Sky NMs and even lesser stuff like Alastor Antlion.

Still, the FFXI douchebags, with their burning need to feel superior via petty contrived "competitions" ... I can't believe they've taken their insecurities to the point of "camping" Abyssea NM "???" pop-spots.

Oh wait, no, I can believe it. I'm just disgusted by it.

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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-11-22 15:00:51
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I don't get whats wrong with not expecting random people to give two shits about you. It's nice when it happens, but expecting it and whining about it is a pretty *** move. I don't get why so many people on these forums expect/demand people be selfless and nice all the time. Which in itself, makes you a (bigger) ***.

Directed at a few posters, and they know who they are~
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2010-11-22 15:13:59
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Fenrir.Snick said:
I don't get whats wrong with not expecting random people to give two shits about you. It's nice when it happens, but expecting it and whining about it is a pretty *** move. I don't get why so many people on these forums expect/demand people be selfless and nice all the time. Which in itself, makes you a (bigger) ***.

Directed at a few posters, and they know who they are~
Im gonna have to side with snick. Exspecting people to be nice 100% of the time (people who are total strangers to you) is not only unrealistic but just plain stupid. You can try to ask people to share a nm pop area but they aren't entitled to in the end they were here first. If you don't aggre then fight them for the spot (spam trade macro) or just leave and do another nm and come back later.

Remember not everyone has the same view as "being nice" and "being fair" as you do. So don't expect to have your way all the time or be able to compromise all the time as well.
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By Alexander.Varistor 2010-11-22 15:30:30
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Fenrir.Snick said:
I don't get whats wrong with not expecting random people to give two shits about you. It's nice when it happens, but expecting it and whining about it is a pretty *** move. I don't get why so many people on these forums expect/demand people be selfless and nice all the time. Which in itself, makes you a (bigger) ***.

Directed at a few posters, and they know who they are~

Pretty funny how wanting people to be nice to each other makes you a ***. i like that. i will have to remember that next time someone is nice to me to call them a ***. Don't worry, Snick, i always and fully expect most everyone i run across on here and on the game to be rude and selfish, and uncaring of strangers, that way i am not surprised when it happens everyday. I am optimistic but also realistic. People always live up to my expectation everyday and never fail to let me down. I just choose to live my life differently is all. i don't really know what to think about this topic, had many groups just come and start spamming an NM we were camping for some time. also had a group share with us and another wait for us to finish, so i have had every possible scenario happen. mixed feelings so not really gonna say what i haven't already said.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-22 15:35:08
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lol Elana is the mayadast *** up in here
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-11-22 15:36:59
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Some of the people saying that everyone should be nice tend to be the most abrasive on here (see: Elana).
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-22 15:38:36
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Some of the people saying that everyone should be nice tend to be the most abrasive on here (see: Elana).
He made fun of my house :(

Stalks the majority of my posts and always has some dipshit response that has 0 to do with the topic, for example, my jeans or my pink house!
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-11-22 15:38:51
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Alexander.Varistor said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
I don't get whats wrong with not expecting random people to give two shits about you. It's nice when it happens, but expecting it and whining about it is a pretty *** move. I don't get why so many people on these forums expect/demand people be selfless and nice all the time. Which in itself, makes you a (bigger) ***.

Directed at a few posters, and they know who they are~

Pretty funny how wanting people to be nice to each other makes you a ***.
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By Asura.Lecreuset 2010-11-22 15:43:29
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Some of the people saying that everyone should be nice tend to be the most abrasive on here (see: Elana).
He made fun of my house :(

Stalks the majority of my posts and always has some dipshit response that has 0 to do with the topic, for example, my jeans or my pink house!

Pink house just means that's a pussy palace.
Jeans are irrelevant because in said pussy palace, they'd be on the floor anyway when you're busy ***' ***. ;O
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-11-22 15:45:57
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Way to completely not read what you bolded dumbass.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-11-22 15:47:05
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-11-22 15:49:38
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Oh sorry, site is all *** up for me so is hard to tell who you're quoting and *** <_<
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-11-22 15:51:11
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Snick is always pissed off.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-11-22 15:55:35
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True story brah
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-11-22 15:57:21
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Asura.Echandra said:
At least people haven't hit rock bottom with NM mpks over the ??? like say...2005/2006ish HNM.
The other day when I was on MNK I attempted to solo Athamas, ended up dying, killed three tarus (/sad), and then some JP shell claimed it, saying I was purposely trying to MPK them, when I wasn't, it was just in the general area of the conflux. I appologized a billion times and ended up paying 100k to the leader for my last MNK leg seal <_<
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By Asura.Natenn 2010-11-22 15:59:19
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Well yea, if my LS sucked and took 30m to kill anything in abyssea id probably be emo to. But it dont, pop it, trigger w/e needs to be triggered, after that its usually dead in 3-5 minutes. But regardless, we all go to abyssea for one of these reasons bar exp: To get stuff for ourselfs, get stuff for our friends, or get stuff for our LS mates. Im a douchebag? Why? Because im being real? No one goes out of "their" way to help other ppl, even more so in an MMORPG, all im saying is if you can go to abyssea and get your stuff done, who gives a crap about other LS/groups? Your not there to help them, And if your one of the bad groups that cant claim/pop first go elsewhere or get better at popping/claiming.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-22 15:59:53
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Meh Time=$ fictional or no.
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