Open Carry Of Firearms: Yea Or Nay?

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I don't think I've ever seen a gun that wasn't attached to a cops hip.

And while I think there are a lot of gun owners who are responsible and could show restraint in using it, there are far too many that wouldn't. I think there'd be a lot more dead Americans.

A large quantity of people who misuse firearms don't legally own them, unfortunately. But restricting legal uses isn't a way to fix it, but they may help improper discharge (children etc) but if that can be proven or not, idk.

I've held some, and fired some, but I don't own one (yet).

watched this movie a few months ago, great film.

Care to substantiate that?

couple of years ago a lot of people died because of box cutters, we should regulate those too /sarcasm

http://www.top5ofanything.com/index.php?l=1535
Weapons # of murders in 2009 in US
Firearms 9,146

Knives or cutting instruments 1,825

Other weapon or weapon not stated 903

Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)801

Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)611

I don't like the idea of people being able to carry weapons. But I'm sure that has a lot to do with where I come from. I still don't lock my doors every night >.>

Nay, because there will be too many *** moments around the country due to peoples' inability to think.

Oh gosh Spency! I get creeped out and lock my door even during the day. /blush! Probably because of where I grew up. In my old high school, we had 9 bomb threats (one actually brought a bomb, but it was only a small pipe bomb and police found it before it went off) and we had a kid stabbed with a knife on-campus. Then when I was 13, David Parker Ray was caught (the Toy Box Killer, Elephant Butte, NM) and he happened to live like 2 blocks from me. My house was accidentally on television from aerial news crews because it was too close to Ray's.

And where I live now, we've had a guy knifed in a robbery in the boys' bathroom a couple years ago. I lock my door when I leave, and I re-lock it as soon as I step inside. /scaredy cat xD

I forget to lock when I go to bed if I'm home alone sometimes lol.

Here in Sweden we don't have many firearm-related deaths at all. Did some quick googling and found this:

Everyone should have one of these:

You're making us sound like pussies. But the sad thing is I agree with you involving weapons. I always lock my door though. :P

I open carry in Utah every single day , have a business and family to protect!
Just to put it simply "i would rather Carry every day and NOT need it, then to experience a day where i do need it and DON'T HAVE IT !!!"
even my baby shoots

lol! ;; I don't live there anymore, thank goodness.

Lol in Iron Man 2 in the Congressional hearing, the character Justin Hammer made a crack about how he likes to leave his doors unlocked, but this isn't Canada. or something like that...

Not reading this whole thread, but whenever this debate comes up, I suggest looking at Switzerland. They have mandatory army enrollment, every single member of their society is trained with fully automatic weapons, and has one in their home at all times. They also have a ludicrously low crime rate. Would you try and rob someone if you knew they had a steyr in the house? Ok, maybe they're not home, but then again, maybe their neighbours know that too.

As for carrying a gun, it's the same thing. Yes, if every man and his dog was carrying a gun, you'd have more accidents and more pointless killings, but at the same time, you'd have a lot less premeditated firearm incidents. Act as tough as you like, but you're gonna think twice about whipping a handgun out of your trousers if there's a good chance 5 other people in the room are also carrying.

However, flipping the coin again, allowing anyone to carry means that you're opening up the laws to allow more people to own guns. The more people that own guns legally, the harder it is to control, and the more people that will own guns ILlegally. All in all I think it best to heavily restrict the legal reasons for owning a gun, and actually really crack down on enforcing the laws that are in place.

In my home state in Australia a good 14 years ago or something, there was a big massacre (worse than Columbine I think) that set in motion a whole ***-storm of politics surrounding gun laws. The issue though, is that it was never the laws that were the problem, but the enforcement of the law.

I'm gonna stop rambling now, but basically, if there's a problem with firearms (or anything for that matter), it's not necessarily an issue with the firearm laws, but the fact that they're not enforced properly. Then again, you Yanks have stupidly unrestrictive firearm laws.

you know while I'm on the topic of wishable firearms, I want one of these fun toys



Wing Zero <3

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you just made my point about for me. thank you.

I'll use the term "ex-military" now so that I'm not singling out the Marines. When you are discharged from the military, whether it be honorably or dishonorably, you are a civilian. You are no longer active duty. Deal with it. Unfortunately for society, many ex-military cannot handle being back in the private sector because of what has "programmed" into them. You do not have the right to patrol the streets in full combat gear toting whatever beautiful weapon Uncle Sam put in your hands during your years of service. You do not have the right to kick down doors and sweep the neighborhood looking for insurgents.

I've got no problem with the ex-military that adapt to the private world. What I do have a problem with are the ones that still walk around with a hard on because they think they're god. Active or not, you are no better than anyone. We all bleed the same color and we all die in the end.


What? Go to ***'s Sporting Goods and pick up a bolt-action rifle and mount a scope on it. Bingo...sniper rifle. You can put down $4k for one of the nicest "Sniper" rifles on the planet...but it's not gonna turn you into Carlos Hathcock, bud. You might as well be shooting a Ruger 10/22 lol.

I'd say we have stupidly restrictive firearm laws, given that our Constitution says the "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
I think having to get a permit to conceal carry is restrictive and unwarranted. Committing a crime using a firearm should get a heavy penalty. Having a weapon or using it to protect life or property should not.

Probably been said, but yeah. You can get a concealed weapons license and carry guns in most states. As long as you have your gun in a holster and is visible, then you can lug it wherever. Can even put in your car(glove box), as long as you notify the police that you have a gun in the car when they pull you over so that he's not alarmed when you go into the glove box to get your registration.

If you're a responsible human-being and are well aware of gun safety, I recommend doing this. People who have had anger management courses need not apply.

I'm a pretty joking guy and will do a bunch of stupid things. But the moment a gun is put into my hands, I am dead serious. The whole world seems to slow down because I concentrate on my every action. Never point a gun at anyone, even if it's not loaded. I live in the south, so I own several guns and enjoy shooting them all, but I know enough about physics to know that things can turn serious very quickly.

To me, it's a lot like the discussion of teaching safe sex vs. teaching abstinence.

Would you rather lots of people be having sex(everyone carrying a gun), but knowing to use a condom(everyone knowing how to use a gun properly and knowing when to use one). Or abstinence(people can't carry guns legally, but the "bad guys" will find a way to get guns regardless).

In MA, my class A permit covers not only high capacity, but also CCW. No seperate permit required...which shocks the hell out of me considering this liberal state. MA is also one of the toughest states to get a permit in, from what I've heard.


I lol'd =D Well put. abstinence FTL. The bad guys will ALWAYS have guns. A well trained, well armed society is what we need. I don't want to ever have to use any of my guns to defend myself or my loved ones, but I find plenty of comfort in knowing that if the sh*t ever hits the fan I'm ready. I can...and will.

So says Brutus. A trusty, reliable friend.

I disagree with part of that. If people are trained properly and take precautions within their own homes concerning the storage of guns, the accident rate would be very small. Unfortunately, people take comfort in knowing there's a gun in the top drawer of their nightstand next to their bed. (read: use a damn gun vault).

My biggest complaint are the parents who don't teach their children about the dangers of firearms. I lost a friend at 15 when he was accidentally shot in the head with his father's gun. He and another friend were goofing around with after he found it in his father's dresser drawer. His friend pointed and squeezed. End of story...and the end of a promising young life. I let my son have toy guns, but I do not let him point them at people or our dogs and pretend to shoot them. I want him to have fun as a child, but at the same time I don't want to reinforce improper behavior with a gun, toy or not. I intend to start him shooting at the range with one of my .22's when he reaches 7 or 8 years old.

Your point about premeditated crimes is absolutely true...especially with people carrying concealed in far greater numbers today than ever before. Moral of the story: Don't f**k with anyone lol. You never know who's carrying what. I'll have my .40 under a t-shirt and a pair of shorts and you'd have no clue until you were staring down the business end. If i was trying to conceal my .50...well, that would be another story lol.