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 Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 01:29:21
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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/sigh stop being a retard, I have not once talked about graphics, my name Isn't jeta, and the makers of the website and what they do is irrelevant.

You're irrelevant, and get mad way too easily. Try to relax a little.
just because you're ignorant of the fact that the game runs smoother on the ps2 and refuse to admit or understand it, or admit or understand that I know what the *** i'm talking about, doesn't make me mad.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-30 01:30:33
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
If you're trying to say the game looks like ***on the ps2 i'll agree there, however what the game looks like and how it plays are two different things, and I haven't once talked about the former. You who are ignorant in many things know not of what you're talking about, the game runs for ***on pc, and just because you don't realize it doesn't make it any less so.

I already mentioned multiple times that the game runs great on a good PC as well, and on top of that the graphics are also way better.

Calling me ignorant just because I don't agree with you...does not help your case, particularly when you're the person that does not know what he's talking about. Just saying~
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-30 01:43:04
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

just because you're ignorant of the fact that the game runs smoother on the ps2 and refuse to admit or understand it, or admit or understand that I know what the *** i'm talking about, doesn't make me mad.

Just because you're ignorant of the fact that the game is better on PC and refuse to admit or understand it, doesn't make the PS2 better.

I say that you're mad because of your attitude, which also seems rather childish. You're acting this way just because people are not agreeing with you. It's rather pitiful.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 01:44:20
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If you're trying to say the game looks like ***on the ps2 i'll agree there, however what the game looks like and how it plays are two different things, and I haven't once talked about the former. You who are ignorant in many things know not of what you're talking about, the game runs for ***on pc, and just because you don't realize it doesn't make it any less so.

I already mentioned multiple times that the game runs great on a good PC as well, and on top of that the graphics are also way better.

Calling me ignorant just because I don't agree with you...does not help your case, particularly when you're the person that does not know what he's talking about. Just saying~

lol no it doesn't, not if you like a game without glitches. Graphics are irrelevant and I know full well what the *** I'm talking about, unlike you.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 01:46:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

just because you're ignorant of the fact that the game runs smoother on the ps2 and refuse to admit or understand it, or admit or understand that I know what the *** i'm talking about, doesn't make me mad.

Just because you're ignorant of the fact that the game is better on PC and refuse to admit or understand it, doesn't make the PS2 better.

I say that you're mad because of your attitude, which also seems rather childish. You're acting this way just because people are not agreeing with you. It's rather pitiful.

I'm not mad, also the game isn't better, it's impossible for a game coded for one system to run better on another without parts of it's hardware, it's like trying to emulate a ps2 game without the emotion engine, it doesn't work. (hence why the 20gb and 80gb model ps3 emulation sucks) also the windower is glitchy as ***, just because you don't know it doesn't mean it isn't so.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-30 01:47:54
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keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 01:53:03
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-10-30 02:41:55
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 02:43:16
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
ok Sj, if I had wanted to be called Jeta i'd have made my name Jeta (it's open) so get my *** name right or don't *** address me.
edit: also it's rude to abbreviate somebody's name without asking them if you can call them that first, unless you adhere to the 3 letter policy in parties :D
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-10-30 02:48:50
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
ok Sj, if I had wanted to be called Jeta i'd have made my name Jeta (it's open) so get my *** name right or don't *** address me.

You are a funny little man.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 02:50:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
ok Sj, if I had wanted to be called Jeta i'd have made my name Jeta (it's open) so get my *** name right or don't *** address me.

You are a funny little man.
how so? wanting to be addressed properly is "funny?"
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-10-30 02:56:14
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
ok Sj, if I had wanted to be called Jeta i'd have made my name Jeta (it's open) so get my *** name right or don't *** address me.
edit: also it's rude to abbreviate somebody's name without asking them if you can call them that first, unless you adhere to the 3 letter policy in parties :D

Whatever you say, Jeta
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 03:01:16
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
It's not rude and you're a *** jackass. What's worse is now everybody knows it, and you're pretty much going to be dismissed as much.

Good luck with your arguments about petty ***. lol
it is rude.


sorry for the poor quality but you get the idea.

edit: also I know I'm an ***, I'm proudly an ***, if some slow *** is on the road they should get the *** out of the way for others who aren't going slow as *** (for whatever reason they may be going slow).
 
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 03:03:12
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
keep telling yourself that, Jeta.

You're doing it wrong. I'm done with you.

you're a *** moron who can't even get a guy's name right. There's no "doing it wrong" here, you install the game, you enable windower and bam, not my fault SE failed miserably at making a windower or their pc copy of the game, it's glitchy and lags out, which the ps2 doesn't do, since well it's coded for it.

Jetackuu

Jetackuu

JETAckuu

JETA

You see the pattern here?
ok Sj, if I had wanted to be called Jeta i'd have made my name Jeta (it's open) so get my *** name right or don't *** address me.
edit: also it's rude to abbreviate somebody's name without asking them if you can call them that first, unless you adhere to the 3 letter policy in parties :D

Whatever you say, Jet (or Jetackuu)
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 03:04:27
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Good you're still here.

Oh and for the record trying to pretend the game is completely king on PS2 when you straight up say graphics aren't apart of the equation at all is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

You're throwing out something that works against your argument "because you don't care about it anyway", and then you tell yourself you're right. You probably are, because anything anyone says counter to it you try to make irrelevant.

Maybe if I disallowed any counter-points to my argument to be said on the strict basis of needing to be right, I would be more often. It must feel good.
I have stated from the beginning that it runs smoother, I'm not going to make the assertion that the ps2 has better graphics because it's just plain not true.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 03:07:01
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Also still waiting for these mass amount of pc glitches.. especially since I'm on pc and you have scared the ***out of me with it.

I should be dc'ing all the time according to you. I'm sure it will happen soon...
Also I never said the glitches ceased the ability to play the game (short of the using the windowed mode would typically lag me out unless I manually changed the priority setting every time I would alt+tab, which is just annoying as ***). Also nor did I say there are a lot of them, just when you run the game side by side the ps2 version you notice small things that quite frankly show that the ps2 doesn't run the game as smoothly. I've also done this on multiple hardware settups with different settings.
 
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 03:17:28
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
I'm not trying to change you're mind but it irk'ed me that you seemed to not factor in graphics on the different systems because you didn't play the game for it.

I can see why someone would like the ps2, at least understand if the graphics were the same. Unfortunately the reality is graphics DO make some of a game whether you want it or not.. and seems a big factor in comparing them. I don't find it easy to just drop that point.

I'll stop getting uppity, you may have a point in connection/stability itself, or what not.


The pc can play the game at higher resolutions, but even if you put it on the same resolution the pc still has the same errors (same refresh rate etc) it's not a graphics issue as to what I was commenting on, I was reffering entirely to the rest of the game, now if you want highest graphics possible, play on the pc ffs, but if it's not a big deal to you and you want to enjoy the game glitch free (and not having something bogging your system down, or tying it up) yeah play on the ps2, even the 360 has it's good points, just don't expect to do besieged or probably abbysea (sometimes campaign) on it (hell once in dyna) because the failbox, will obviously fail. I have multiboxed for a long time side by side, yeah the ps2 does look like ***, and probably has some to do with it's stability however I still enjoy 8 bit gaming so meh.

edit: I'll give it to the point it's fair to question everything about what I say without proof, however I can't prove anything until I can afford to reactivate my other account and find my damn wotg disc to I can reinstall on the pc, or use my friends pc (which is probably what I would do) then do the same things on both while recording the output, but so much time and energy required.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2010-10-30 11:23:53
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The said PC glitches are purely cosmetic and while they don't bother most people it does bother some.

PS2:


PC:


PC is set up at 640x480 with 512x512 backbuffer (to match up with PS2 *fixed* settings) lol

Other different things is how the PS2 and PC handle the heavy load situations (besieged, dynamis, campaign). PC is slower to load character models (not fault of the game, more like fault of the Windows OS) and sometimes you can't target people until they load.

Things everyone should we used to these days.
The most strong point on the PS2 is how you can simply put it in a bag and take it anywhere (lol an laptop let you play FFXI without need an TV just need the battery charged and some wifi hotspot you can hop onto.)

While I like the PS2 version a lot, I have been using the PC version much more recently (because it's more practical to do so).

Just pointing these out for the fairness of the thread. :P
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 12:13:49
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AS stated it's impossible to "give a hint" when I don't currently have the ability to show you, also I wasn't talking about still frames, I plan to do feed capture, since that's the only way to show.

The glithes on the pc aren't purely cosmetic, and I've already stated numerous times that the graphics (resolution etc) weren't part of my statement.

The game is coded for the ps2, will always run better on the ps2, no matter the amount of processing power you try to run it on.

That being said, yes they should upgrade the game in it's entirety and drop the ps2 support, and when they make the new versions recode the clients. However the likelihood of them doing this is slim to nil, unfortunately.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2010-10-30 12:20:53
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
That being said, yes they should upgrade the game in it's entirety and drop the ps2 support, and when they make the new versions recode the clients. However the likelihood of them doing this is slim to nil, unfortunately.

Not if FFXIV really fails (lol) as press people have been trying so hard to make it fail through bad reviews. XD

My point is, if FFXIV fails they will need to do something with all that wasted effort.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-30 12:23:22
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Just give an example of a glitch on the PC version that makes the PS2 version superior. Explain it to me.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 12:34:30
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Just give an example of a glitch on the PC version that makes the PS2 version superior. Explain it to me.
I told you they are hard to describe, I'll tell you what here in a week or two when I get my new laptop I'll reactivate my other account and do some video outputting and make some videos of the same activities.

To most I'd say they probably wouldn't ever notice them unless they were playing both side by side, and out of the forum that those pictures they posted up there were from another guy (the only one I saw) who was making the same claim as me also multiboxed.

here I think it was
http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic/161010-pcxbox-360-ps2-ffxi/
not saying I agree with him 100%, just he's the only other person I see trying to back up their claim, and he has similar experience.
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By Siren.Stewie 2010-10-30 12:51:43
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Your PC is horrible. I get constant 30 FPS with oversampled background and drawdistance set to 20 on PC, everywhere I go, and haven't had one graphical glitch.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 12:57:22
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Siren.Stewie said:
Your PC is horrible. I get constant 30 FPS with oversampled background and drawdistance set to 20 on PC, everywhere I go, and haven't had one graphical glitch.
1. no it isn't
2. i've used multiple pc's
3. I never said anything about graphical glitches
4. shut the *** up
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By Siren.Stewie 2010-10-30 12:58:32
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
mad

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