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 Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:12:49
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

it is not why I am throwing them away because the other "positive points) about the pc are all subjective, and vary from person to person, the only thing I'm discussing is the thing that is not subjective, a point to which you have yet to understand. Whether or not people agree with me or not it's the point, people have preferences as to how they play, like I said, subjective, however if you're talking about the actual gameplay (not graphics or plugins) the game runs better on the ps2, a point I'll have to prove, yes. I've said this a few dozen times probably by now, how do you not understand it?

You just don't get it...

First of all, I highly doubt that you're going to be able to prove anything. Further, let's assume that you "proved", somehow, that the PS2 loades zones 0.2sec faster than your PC. What do you plan to accomplish then?

Do you plan to say that the PS2 is better because of that? You know, using your own terms, that would be "subjective" at best. Although it would be more like illogical thinking.

You even mentioned that your friend told you that they've never noticed a difference between the two. Yet you still want to prove that it runs better, so that's why FFXI is better on PS2?

You can't prove that FFXI is better on PS2. It's just ridiculous.

Everyone is disagreeing with you. That should tell you something...
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:13:22
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Asura.Raignes said:
Brb, hitting 8 macros to do one thing because I can only have 6 lines per macro on my OBVIOUSLY BETTER PS2 LOLOL

Also, brb, playing Campaign without my PS2 overheating and exploding (or Besieged + Xbox, your choice).

Oh, and brb, pulling up information on the NM we're fighting while staying on the same platform, running it at full performance and still having it look better than PS2.

Edit: Mase, PChan at least *sometimes* has a decent argument. Not like this contest at pissing into a fan.


gearswaps are cheating

real players fulltime
you're getting a little ridiculous sir, I've never stated this.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:15:13
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Asura.Raignes said:
Brb, hitting 8 macros to do one thing because I can only have 6 lines per macro on my OBVIOUSLY BETTER PS2 LOLOL

Also, brb, playing Campaign without my PS2 overheating and exploding (or Besieged + Xbox, your choice).

Oh, and brb, pulling up information on the NM we're fighting while staying on the same platform, running it at full performance and still having it look better than PS2.

Edit: Mase, PChan at least *sometimes* has a decent argument. Not like this contest at pissing into a fan.


gearswaps are cheating

real players fulltime
you're getting a little ridiculous sir, I've never stated this.

my bad

i forgot i considered you a formidable enough debater

to respond to you like an intellectual equal

instead of just lollin at you
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:15:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

it is not why I am throwing them away because the other "positive points) about the pc are all subjective, and vary from person to person, the only thing I'm discussing is the thing that is not subjective, a point to which you have yet to understand. Whether or not people agree with me or not it's the point, people have preferences as to how they play, like I said, subjective, however if you're talking about the actual gameplay (not graphics or plugins) the game runs better on the ps2, a point I'll have to prove, yes. I've said this a few dozen times probably by now, how do you not understand it?

You just don't get it...

First of all, I highly doubt that you're going to be able to prove anything. Further, let's assume that you "proved", somehow, that the PS2 loades zones 0.2sec faster than your PC. What do you plan to accomplish then?

Do you plan to say that the PS2 is better because of that? You know, using your own terms, that would be "subjective" at best. Although it would be more like illogical thinking.

You even mentioned that your friend told you that they've never noticed a difference between the two. Yet you still want to prove that it runs better, so that's why FFXI is better on PS2?

You can't prove that FFXI is better on PS2. It's just ridiculous.

Everyone is disagreeing with you. That should tell you something...
graphics and 3rd party tools aside, yes it would be better in that case to run ffxi on, the entire thing I've been saying for pages now.

My friend never played them side by side, so I doubt she noticed.
I have noticed differences, I have played them side by side (so have other people, I'll look up the conversations later)
not everyone is disagreeing with me so no.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:16:28
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Asura.Raignes said:
Brb, hitting 8 macros to do one thing because I can only have 6 lines per macro on my OBVIOUSLY BETTER PS2 LOLOL

Also, brb, playing Campaign without my PS2 overheating and exploding (or Besieged + Xbox, your choice).

Oh, and brb, pulling up information on the NM we're fighting while staying on the same platform, running it at full performance and still having it look better than PS2.

Edit: Mase, PChan at least *sometimes* has a decent argument. Not like this contest at pissing into a fan.


gearswaps are cheating

real players fulltime
you're getting a little ridiculous sir, I've never stated this.

my bad

i forgot i considered you a formidable enough debater

to respond to you like an intellectual equal

instead of just lollin at you
well unlike you I'm not pulling ***out of my ***.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:16:53
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Asura.Raignes said:
Brb, hitting 8 macros to do one thing because I can only have 6 lines per macro on my OBVIOUSLY BETTER PS2 LOLOL

Also, brb, playing Campaign without my PS2 overheating and exploding (or Besieged + Xbox, your choice).

Oh, and brb, pulling up information on the NM we're fighting while staying on the same platform, running it at full performance and still having it look better than PS2.

Edit: Mase, PChan at least *sometimes* has a decent argument. Not like this contest at pissing into a fan.


gearswaps are cheating

real players fulltime
you're getting a little ridiculous sir, I've never stated this.

my bad

i forgot i considered you a formidable enough debater

to respond to you like an intellectual equal

instead of just lollin at you
well unlike you I'm not pulling ***out of my ***.

lol
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:18:14
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why don't you educate me some more on the difference between theories and laws
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-11-01 02:19:43
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Don't you love it when this self-proclaimed intelligence is used to look like a badass and outshine everyone to the point you make people blind, instead of educating?

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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:21:46
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
why don't you educate me some more on the difference between theories and laws
hey I admitted that I was wrong, even your site said that it's a common misconception.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:22:49
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
graphics and 3rd party tools aside, yes it would be better in that case to run ffxi on, the entire thing I've been saying for pages now.

My friend never played them side by side, so I doubt she noticed.
I have noticed differences, I have played them side by side (so have other people, I'll look up the conversations later)
not everyone is disagreeing with me so no.

No. 3rd party tools aside (just so you don't pull the "Cheating card" and to help your case a bit...), many other people still consider graphics very relevant, if the difference in load time is 0.2 sec. that does not qualify you to state for a fact that it would be better to play on PS2.

Again, it would be subjective at best.

Opinion != fact.

Therefore, you can't prove that it's better on PS2.

"Practically" everyone is disagreeing with you here. That should tell you something.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:24:37
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
graphics and 3rd party tools aside, yes it would be better in that case to run ffxi on, the entire thing I've been saying for pages now.

My friend never played them side by side, so I doubt she noticed.
I have noticed differences, I have played them side by side (so have other people, I'll look up the conversations later)
not everyone is disagreeing with me so no.

No. 3rd party tools aside (just so you don't pull the "Cheating card" and to help your case a bit...), many other people still consider graphics very relevant, if the difference in load time is 0.2 sec. that does not qualify you to state for a fact that it would be better to play on PS2.

Again, it would be subjective at best.

Opinion != fact.

Therefore, you can't prove that it's better on PS2.

"Practically" everyone is disagreeing with you here. That should tell you something.
again not everyone considering graphics > gameplay. making it subjective.

All I'll be able to prove is whether or not the game runs better on pc or on ps2, the rest is subjective. Considering I stated that if you don't mind graphics it's better (3rd party tools not a factor)
popular sure doesn't mean right sir.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:25:54
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

popular sure doesn't mean right sir.

It does in this game though.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:26:32
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

popular sure doesn't mean right sir.

It does in this game though.
how about no.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:27:49
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

popular sure doesn't mean right sir.

It does in this game though.
how about no.

How about

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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:28:27
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

popular sure doesn't mean right sir.

It does in this game though.
how about no.

How about

admit I'm right, and you've been wasting my time for the past several pages and I'll get right on that.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:29:08
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

popular sure doesn't mean right sir.

It does in this game though.
how about no.

How about



i mean i agree with you, that goes without saying

i'm just not sure why you keep giving full fledged responses

to a running joke

it's like getting into a nine page dead serious debate on war gear with derfthegalka
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:30:10
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

admit I'm right, and you've been wasting my time for the past several pages and I'll get right on that.

No. That would be cheating. I don't cheat bro.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-11-01 02:34:45
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It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:35:42
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:

i mean i agree with you, that goes without saying

i'm just not sure why you keep giving full fledged responses

to a running joke

it's like getting into a nine page dead serious debate on war gear with derfthegalka

Just testing him.

I have to admit, Jeta's stubbornness is a bit impressive.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:36:43
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:

i mean i agree with you, that goes without saying

i'm just not sure why you keep giving full fledged responses

to a running joke

it's like getting into a nine page dead serious debate on war gear with derfthegalka

Just testing him.

I have to admit, Jeta's stubbornness is a bit impressive.


i'll give him that much
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:37:27
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Phoenix.Darki said:
It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
it's funny how somebody who hasn't been part of the conversation can pop in and talk ***and claim somebody is wrong without giving any backup to their claims. Now that's funny.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-11-01 02:38:26
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
it's funny how somebody who hasn't been part of the conversation can pop in and talk ***and claim somebody is wrong without giving any backup to their claims. Now that's funny.
Oh I am just throwing out quotes. Chill man~
they aren't even for you.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:39:24
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
it's funny how somebody who hasn't been part of the conversation can pop in and talk ***and claim somebody is wrong without giving any backup to their claims. Now that's funny.
Oh I am just throwing out quotes. Chill man~
they aren't even for you.
Darki trolling at 330am (edt), who would have thought it...

I need to get to *** sleep.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-11-01 02:40:07
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
it's funny how somebody who hasn't been part of the conversation can pop in and talk ***and claim somebody is wrong without giving any backup to their claims. Now that's funny.
Oh I am just throwing out quotes. Chill man~
they aren't even for you.
Darki trolling at 330am (edt), who would have thought it...

I need to get to *** sleep.
I can't sleep either, don't worry.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-11-01 02:40:13
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oh man, darki's in this thread?

hahahahaha

now it's truly complete
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-01 02:41:25
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
oh man, darki's in this thread?

hahahahaha

now it's truly complete

Get out of my head!
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:41:57
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
It's more funny when a person actually believes they are dead seriously right and are actually, entirely wrong.
it's funny how somebody who hasn't been part of the conversation can pop in and talk ***and claim somebody is wrong without giving any backup to their claims. Now that's funny.
Oh I am just throwing out quotes. Chill man~
they aren't even for you.
Darki trolling at 330am (edt), who would have thought it...

I need to get to *** sleep.
I can't sleep either, don't worry.
>.<
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-11-01 02:42:26
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If he comes out and admits he's trolling, he may be one of the best trolls in AH history.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-11-01 02:43:34
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You're all welcome...?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-01 02:43:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
oh man, darki's in this thread?

hahahahaha

now it's truly complete

Get out of my head!

don't feel like finding the original video and this is the first that popped up, it shall do.
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