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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 00:26:03
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Seriously though I'd love to see what a QD using lvl 85 death penalty with the +ice dmg and mab buffs
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-10 00:29:09
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Tizona is the answer.
I wish...

Odin.Sheelay said:
Liberator FTL = For the Looks
Probably fairly strong right now tbh. DRK has better haste gear than ever and aftermath duration got extended with one of the trials. The job itself could use a hand at the moment though.

3min+ last resort duration, yes please. At least for starters... =/
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 00:30:43
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Tizona is the answer.
I wish...
Odin.Sheelay said:
Liberator FTL = For the Looks
Probably fairly strong right now tbh. DRK has better haste gear than ever and aftermath duration got extended with one of the trials. The job itself could use a hand at the moment though.
3min+ last resort duration, yes please. At least for starters... =/
Wait what are you talking about? All I see is
Oh nvm I see mythic aftermath on first 2 lvls is 3 min now
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By Sheelay 2010-10-10 00:31:16
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Tizona is the answer.
I wish...

Odin.Sheelay said:
Liberator FTL = For the Looks
Probably fairly strong right now tbh. DRK has better haste gear than ever and aftermath duration got extended with one of the trials. The job itself could use a hand at the moment though.

3min+ last resort duration, yes please. At least for starters... =/

3 min would simply be overkill.
Now 1 min would be more realistic
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2010-10-10 00:32:08
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Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised.
If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc.
Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones..
But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding


because having them help me do assaults, vnms(which dont even have 100% drop), nyzul, einherjar, etc is all a waste of time for them. I'm getting the relic without wasting others' time as much as possible; that's how it should be done now imo since relic af is mostly trash. and since the update, I haven't seen any alexandrite in any bazaars. they at least make some money for themselves doing dynamis, and we might not even do it, it hasnt been decided yet. I don't factor it in to the relic.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 00:33:07
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so CLAUSTRUM IT IS!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-10 00:33:59
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Tizona is the answer.
I wish...
Odin.Sheelay said:
Liberator FTL = For the Looks
Probably fairly strong right now tbh. DRK has better haste gear than ever and aftermath duration got extended with one of the trials. The job itself could use a hand at the moment though.
3min+ last resort duration, yes please. At least for starters... =/
Wait what are you talking about?

Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Probably fairly strong right now tbh. DRK has better haste gear than ever and aftermath duration got extended with one of the trials. The job itself could use a hand at the moment though.

Sheelay said:
3 min would simply be overkill.
Now 1 min would be more realistic
I can dream, no? =/
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 00:35:27
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Way to cut out me saying that!!!

Also empyrean probably beat out mythic on most the DD stuff
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 00:36:25
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:

I can dream, no? =/

Unrealistic dreams hurt
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 00:37:11
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Bravura got a lot better now, don't say bad stuff abot Bravura ::
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-10 00:41:11
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Bravura got a lot better now, don't say bad stuff abot Bravura ::
Who said anything about Bravura?

Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised.
If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc.
Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones..
But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding


because having them help me do assaults, vnms(which dont even have 100% drop), nyzul, einherjar, etc is all a waste of time for them. I'm getting the relic without wasting others' time as much as possible; that's how it should be done now imo since relic af is mostly trash. and since the update, I haven't seen any alexandrite in any bazaars. they at least make some money for themselves doing dynamis, and we might not even do it, it hasnt been decided yet. I don't factor it in to the relic.
If Levi is anything like Fenrir, what little Alex you might find is 5-6k. 150-180 mil for a mythic along with everything else is insanity.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-10 00:45:29
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In all seriousness though... 30sec duration for last resort is too short these days...

SE does need to focus more on the DD department for Drk. Increasing Last resort duration would be a good option. If anything, I do think that DRK needs it.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-10-10 00:49:30
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Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding

It's because quite literally, no one does ZNM on a regular basis anymore. No one.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 00:54:29
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding

It's because quite literally, no one does ZNM on a regular basis anymore. No one.

Sadly it's true. That's too bad though, ZNM was quite fun
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 00:57:05
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding
It's because quite literally, no one does ZNM on a regular basis anymore. No one.
Sadly it's true. That's too bad though, ZNM was quite fun
Pretty sure the ls I just joined does...
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-10 00:57:46
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding

It's because quite literally, no one does Salvage on a regular basis anymore. No one.
Fixed.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 00:58:48
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding
It's because quite literally, no one does Salvage on a regular basis anymore. No one.
Fixed.
The ls I just quit did. 5 times a week.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 01:00:26
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding

It's because quite literally, no one does Salvage on a regular basis anymore. No one.
Fixed.

I was still doing Salvage a month ago, and I'm pretty sure the group I was in is still doing it
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-10 01:10:45
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Even if you got all of the Alexandrites from your group you're still looking at forever. Since less people do Salvage now it's even harder to find people selling them. Most likely anyone doing Salvage now is going to keep their Alexandrite because almost no reason to do salvage unless attempting to obtain a mythic. My salvage LS got about 20,000-25,000 Alexandrites per year with 7 runs a week, most days doing multiple areas.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-10 01:18:50
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
I don't see how building a mythic should be harder than relic, especially now that cap was raised. If you have enough friends to lowman dyna cities then you can definitely expect the same results in completing lolAssaults, Nyzul isle etc. Actually it would at least involve more activities which could "entertain" people better than simply spamming dyna zones.. But I guess that's just me, wishing there were still people intersted in anything else other than Abyssea grinding
It's because quite literally, no one does Salvage on a regular basis anymore. No one.
Fixed.
The ls I just quit did. 5 times a week.
More to the point at any rate. ZNM were never a major cockblock relatively speaking, the problem was always amassing 30k Alexandrite as I mentioned previously in this very thread. Nothing else in the quest chain comes close, dunno why one would think ZNM was the cockblock of all things.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-10 01:31:28
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Doesn't matter much anymore, the worse problem with Mythics is they require multiple events ( which I'd love to do still ) to be taken care of
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-10 01:40:02
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Need to weight time/cost with efficiency too.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-10-10 02:15:30
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Odin.Sheelay said:
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Tell you the truth either do, MNK relic or NIN relic Best Relics right there or Apoc Edit: Also, if you really want do whatever relic you want play the game how you want to. Never know you might become a serious WHM DD :D
NIN relic? I can understand H2H, also GS now became pretty sweet, and GA as well. But to get to the OP, have you considered making a mythic? WHM Mythic is much more useful than the relic. And so are the Mythic BLM staves I believe, since you're more mage oriented

Kikoku is *** hawt. Love it, my favorite hands down.
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By Bahamut.Wakabo 2010-10-10 03:08:50
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Fenrir.Snick said:
Level MNK and do Spharai. You're welcome.
This.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-10-10 05:01:31
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Leviathan.Hastefeet said:
get a claustrum

Leviathan.Draylo said:
Be a rebel, do a claustrum

Odin.Sheelay said:
so CLAUSTRUM IT IS!

^ This.

If I had the money and if WHM, PLD or WAR could use it, I'd do this just to do something different.

Who wouldn't want to spam Gate of Taru, lol!
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-10-10 06:06:39
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Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Tell you the truth either do, MNK relic or NIN relic Best Relics right there or Apoc Edit: Also, if you really want do whatever relic you want play the game how you want to. Never know you might become a serious WHM DD :D
NIN relic? I can understand H2H, also GS now became pretty sweet, and GA as well. But to get to the OP, have you considered making a mythic? WHM Mythic is much more useful than the relic. And so are the Mythic BLM staves I believe, since you're more mage oriented

Kikoku is *** hawt. Love it, my favorite hands down.

Kikoku is not what it used to be.. And.

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Starting a mythic now with any realistic expectation of finishing it within the next two years is folly. I can't recommend building a mythic to anyone at this point. And yeah, wtf @ Kikoku.

Hey, hey don't dis on the Kikoku I've seen some mighty fine DMG come out of that thing.
Fenrir had one of the best Kikokus in FFXI history. I've a pretty good idea what it can do. It's not a bad relic, but it's not a great one either and it's attached to a mediocre job. Odds are Empyrean beats it anyway so /shrug

Besides. You suck at NIN Kaioshin. I don't mean that to be cute either. You just suck.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 06:37:31
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I think Vajra might actually be good now.
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By Leviathan.Ashaaman 2010-10-10 06:46:06
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
I think Vajra might actually be good now.

Twashtar is likely better
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-10 06:50:09
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Leviathan.Ashaaman said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
I think Vajra might actually be good now.
Twashtar is likely better
Probably. But then 30k alex might be easier/faster to get than 50 glavoid shells and 50 Itzpapalotl's Scales. Especially for the OP.

They really need to make those bazaarable like the drops OAT path
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-10 07:01:17
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I think all Empyrean Weapons are the best of their class. Twashtar is WHAT THE FLYING DICKBALLS obscene as far as THF weapons go at the moment. Like seriously, destroys Mandau 2-3x over.
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