By the way. *** you for claiming that eating plants is wrong when YOU IN FACT EAT PLANTS...
But isn't that what vegans are doing?
Humans eat meat, we have been doing it for years.
Now we start saying that eating meat is wrong and must change to eating nothing but veggies.
Next thing we know, eating veggies is wrong, because veggies are living creatures (which is what animals are by the way, and the main argument in why we shouldn't eat meat) and deserve to live!
not to mention plants are far more beneficial to keep alive than animals.
The earth is almost 8000 miles in diameter.
Small?
No.
In land mass yes its a small planet.
Why do you think that?
Or does this land under water and the creatures in it magically not count?
total: 510.072 million sq km
land: 148.94 million sq km
water: 361.132 million sq km
note: 70.8% of the world's surface is water, 29.2% is land
So again, does this part under water not count as part of "Earth"
I'm not really arguing the point of what you perceive to be small.
Prince said the earth is small, my reply that it was not.
Just because you are specifying landmass not encompassed with water doesn't mean I was.
The earth is almost 8000 miles in diameter.
Small?
No.
In land mass yes its a small planet.
Why do you think that?
Or does this land under water and the creatures in it magically not count?
total: 510.072 million sq km
land: 148.94 million sq km
water: 361.132 million sq km
note: 70.8% of the world's surface is water, 29.2% is land
So again, does this part under water not count as part of "Earth"
I'm not really arguing the point of what you perceive to be small.
Prince said the earth is small, my reply that it was not.
Just because you are specifying landmass not encompassed with water doesn't mean I was.
And if you read my comment i said in land mass it is small. I never said the planet was small.
The earth is almost 8000 miles in diameter.
Small?
No.
In land mass yes its a small planet.
Why do you think that?
Or does this land under water and the creatures in it magically not count?
total: 510.072 million sq km
land: 148.94 million sq km
water: 361.132 million sq km
note: 70.8% of the world's surface is water, 29.2% is land
So again, does this part under water not count as part of "Earth"
I'm not really arguing the point of what you perceive to be small.
Prince said the earth is small, my reply that it was not.
Just because you are specifying landmass not encompassed with water doesn't mean I was.
And if you read my comment i said in land mass it is small. I never said the planet was small.
Hence me replying to Prince and not You.
I look at my quotes and I see me quoting Prince :/
But regardless. in terms of landmass..ever hear of manmade islands?
or hell Hawaii makes Islands all the time, but Hawaii wouldn't be to the point of livable conditions.
By the way. *** you for claiming that eating plants is wrong when YOU IN FACT EAT PLANTS...
But isn't that what vegans are doing?
Humans eat meat, we have been doing it for years.
Now we start saying that eating meat is wrong and must change to eating nothing but veggies.
Next thing we know, eating veggies is wrong, because veggies are living creatures (which is what animals are by the way, and the main argument in why we shouldn't eat meat) and deserve to live!
not to mention plants are far more beneficial to keep alive than animals.
Oxygen, *** yeah!
It's an alien plot man!!! becoming vegans makes you weak... = perfect time for alien take over
The earth is almost 8000 miles in diameter.
Small?
No.
In land mass yes its a small planet.
Why do you think that?
Or does this land under water and the creatures in it magically not count?
total: 510.072 million sq km
land: 148.94 million sq km
water: 361.132 million sq km
note: 70.8% of the world's surface is water, 29.2% is land
So again, does this part under water not count as part of "Earth"
I'm not really arguing the point of what you perceive to be small.
Prince said the earth is small, my reply that it was not.
Just because you are specifying landmass not encompassed with water doesn't mean I was.
And if you read my comment i said in land mass it is small. I never said the planet was small.
Hence me replying to Prince and not You.
I look at my quotes and I see me quoting Prince :/
By the way. *** you for claiming that eating plants is wrong when YOU IN FACT EAT PLANTS...
But isn't that what vegans are doing?
Humans eat meat, we have been doing it for years.
Now we start saying that eating meat is wrong and must change to eating nothing but veggies.
Next thing we know, eating veggies is wrong, because veggies are living creatures (which is what animals are by the way, and the main argument in why we shouldn't eat meat) and deserve to live!
not to mention plants are far more beneficial to keep alive than animals.
Oxygen, *** yeah!
It's an alien plot man!!! becoming vegans makes you weak... = perfect time for alien take over
PS, *** YOU AREC BROWLDWIIIIN!
Outside of the alien plot, the facts are true.
Man cannot survive on plant alone, that is a scientific fact.
Humanity has been eating meat since before we had history and certain people are going to tell me that meat is bad?
Who cares how an animal dies if that animal is going to be food for us, because, guess what, that animal is going to die. There is no such thing as a humane death.
On one hand, human consumption of domesticated food animals can in no way be said to control their populations. In fact, human meat consumption is the only reason these species survive at all. Where every human to stop eating meat for whatever reason, many of these species would become extinct and the rest would only survive in domestication. Think of cattle trying to survive unprotected in nature, particularly when humans are protecting crop lands from them? While meat consumption is bad for the individual animals, it's great for the species.
On the other hand, most people I know like to think themselves, at the very least, free-willed individuals. But it's hard to argue that you're a good, free-willed person when you disregard horrible cruelty because you enjoy the outcome, even though the cruelty is only to maximize profit. The meat industry is a pessimistic determinist's dream, because it shows that humans not only are willing to kill on a massive scale to eat meat and make a profit, they're willing to include cruelty when it makes the process more efficient. Perhaps the number of people who speak out against this kind of cruelty is enough to debunk the determinist, but certainly not the pessimist.
By the way. *** you for claiming that eating plants is wrong when YOU IN FACT EAT PLANTS...
But isn't that what vegans are doing?
Humans eat meat, we have been doing it for years.
Now we start saying that eating meat is wrong and must change to eating nothing but veggies.
Next thing we know, eating veggies is wrong, because veggies are living creatures (which is what animals are by the way, and the main argument in why we shouldn't eat meat) and deserve to live!
not to mention plants are far more beneficial to keep alive than animals.
Oxygen, *** yeah!
It's an alien plot man!!! becoming vegans makes you weak... = perfect time for alien take over
PS, *** YOU AREC BROWLDWIIIIN!
Outside of the alien plot, the facts are true.
Man cannot survive on plant alone, that is a scientific fact.
Humanity has been eating meat since before we had history and certain people are going to tell me that meat is bad?
Who cares how an animal dies if that animal is going to be food for us, because, guess what, that animal is going to die. There is no such thing as a humane death.
My dog of what 9 years had this inoperable tumor that caused him constant pain and agony and we put him down. I feel that putting him down with Euthanasia was humane :/
I would rather have had him die that was over dying without it.
Anyway, that ***makes me feel bad.
bleh.
If euthanasia is so humane, why is it against the law to perform it against humans? Because the end result is the same. Killing. Doesn't matter how you kill something, if it dies, it dies. If it's for food, screw babying it. Slaughter that sob and slap it on a grill with a pinch of salt.
If euthanasia is so humane, why is it against the law to perform it against humans? Because the end result is the same. Killing. Doesn't matter how you kill something, if it dies, it dies. If it's for food, screw babying it. Slaughter that sob and slap it on a grill with a pinch of salt.
Well.
Which would you have.
live for 2 more years in agony and then die.
get put down and not have to live with the agony.
it may be superimposed human emotion, but I'd rather not see my dog in constant pain for two years just for it to die anyway.
I felt the same way when my grandpa passed, death is humane by default in regards to pain :/
I might not be arguing the same thing that you guys are arguing but I hope you get what I mean...lol
My dog of what 9 years had this inoperable tumor that caused him constant pain and agony and we put him down. I feel that putting him down with Euthanasia was humane :/
I would rather have had him die that was over dying without it.
Anyway, that ***makes me feel bad.
bleh.
Yes but thats where this world is actually screwed up.
All these people that are vegetarian/vegan complain about equal rights for animals. Yet when it comes to a human dying of a tumour/disease we have to suffer.
Anyone else think 5 pages is enough for this one? Who wants to start the new thread?
I'm honestly getting sick of talking about this :/
I did enough of that yesterday.
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
I get what you mean too, I'm just saying there's no humane way of killing something.
Meh.
humane:marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals
lethally injecting an animal so that it may die because it's in constant pain is death.
but it's also humane.
what exactly does the word humane mean to you?
My dog of what 9 years had this inoperable tumor that caused him constant pain and agony and we put him down. I feel that putting him down with Euthanasia was humane :/
I would rather have had him die that was over dying without it.
Anyway, that ***makes me feel bad.
bleh.
Yes but thats where this world is actually screwed up.
All these people that are vegetarian/vegan complain about equal rights for animals. Yet when it comes to a human dying of a tumour/disease we have to suffer.
It's because we humans think that we can live forever...or at least try to.
That's why we have so many old people still alive with the medicares and what not.
That and all the vegetables that are just wasting space.
but that is a whole other rice ball.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
Notice what you need to have that vegetarian diets don't provide?
Protein, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, B12.
Try getting that in a salad.
And try living without it, I tell you that it probably won't be a fun life.
Did you even look at that link.
Lol at all vegetarians eating a salad.
I was a vegetarian in highschool because I was dating a *** who was also vegetarian.
I've had verification in regards to the spunk being sweeter on that note.
