Unicorn.Ninetales said:
I love how just the other day people were all calling Footwork a waste, and then all of a sudden Tornado Kick is BEST WS with Footwork onry.
Wait! What? NO TornadoKick For PUP?
Wait! What? NO TornadoKick for PUP?
To be fair, OAThrice weapons, the new WS, and those Footwork latent Haste +5% shoes (which are apparently D:35 o_O) did all drop in the same update. Hell of a turnaround.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
To be fair, OAThrice weapons, the new WS, and those Footwork latent Haste +5% shoes (which are apparently D:35 o_O) did all drop in the same update. Hell of a turnaround.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Leviathan.Auraeon said:
If MNK had Stringing Pummel, it wouldn't be using Tornado Kick either.
Care to back this one up?
38 (from hand to hand) + 18 (footwork) + 35 (poise shoes) = 91 base DMG we're working with. The ws itself is badass under footwork and since aside from relic, footwork is our current best weapon w/ the occ attack 2-3 times h2h.
Tornado kick is counted from feet, pummel would be counted from hands, so 38 base dmg since the h2h themselves have +0 dmg on them
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Well, footwork tornado kick would still be better than hand to hand stringing pummel.
Also, did you happen to see what I was replying to?
Just because someone may not have the occ attack 3 times claws yet doesn't make pummel better, it just means they don't have a good footwork build.
Also, did you happen to see what I was replying to?
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If MNK had Stringing Pummel, it wouldn't be using Tornado Kick either.
Just because someone may not have the occ attack 3 times claws yet doesn't make pummel better, it just means they don't have a good footwork build.
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Ah, because every monk is full timing foot work now leaving no room for punching, gotcha.
You can create a 6-hit build (5 if /SAM) if you rely on the first two hits of your WS landing and OAThrice under Footwork with the new Footwork boots gives you 91 damage 480 delay and ~70% DA (Footwork seems to force max of two kicks per round but it's still higher rate than you'd have with OATwice). Talk about WS spam, and if you've seen a good Tornado Kick build at work it's a fairly potent WS too.
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At this point tbh only reasons I can see not to be using h2h are
A) Spharai
B) Footwork has been dispelled/waiting on recast
A) Spharai
B) Footwork has been dispelled/waiting on recast
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well, footwork tornado kick would still be better than hand to hand stringing pummel.
Also, did you happen to see what I was replying to?
Also, did you happen to see what I was replying to?
Yes, which is why I mentioned it.
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Because all you *** said was "wrong"
Sure, in my first post, but I went on to explain it after that and you were still not following me.
For example, after I explained the footwork tornado kick
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Ah, because every monk is full timing foot work now leaving no room for punching, gotcha.
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Hey, I ain't the one gettin all mad, lol. No need to use curse words :(
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And your post about you not getting it was AFTER you asked and AFTER I gave you a response. See my point? After I backed it up is when you came in w/ the "all you did was say wrong" bs lol
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I could already tell you were confused when you first started responding, lol.
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Pandemonium.Kajidourden said:
Is it even worth getting? I haven't seen any damage testing/screens myself and I don't play anymore, just curious lol.
Just laid out today a 5 hit footwork build without SAM sub
I love you tigerwoods!
5hit w/o /sam? Doesn't compute >.> if you're counting 5 kicks between ws, that's a 6hit. When you say x-hit, the WS is included.
So let's say we have 100 tp.
WS kick kick kick kick WS kick kick kick kick WS would be a 5-hit
So let's say we have 100 tp.
WS kick kick kick kick WS kick kick kick kick WS would be a 5-hit
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5 hit including WS, only 3 hits after WS since tp return from tornado kick is kick+kick+1 at 20tp/kick you will have 41 tp return from your WS then 3 kicks then WS again. You need a total of +39 store tp easily attainable with samurai roll with a sam, but you need some of the new gear and some old to reach it without sam sub or sam roll.
I was playing around when I made the 5 hit build, it is possible but you wouldnt be able to use the 2-3 hit H2H with it, so a 6 hit with the TotM H2H would be much more viable.
Oh, sam roll. I thought you meant in gear alone w/o sam sub, which is why I was confused
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LOL, like we really wanted Tornado kick?? as soon as the video came out we should of all known that it was targeting mnks. Personally, meh, not needed...rather have a WS that benefits me or some new ones for my automaton
Ragnarok.Yokyumosheemo said:
LOL, like we really wanted Tornado kick?? as soon as the video came out we should of all known that it was targeting mnks. Personally, meh, not needed...rather have a WS that benefits me or some new ones for my automaton
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