Artemicion said:
I only saw two things from this thread:
Some person said:
I haven't tested or used these things in enough situations to know how useful they really are
Some other people said:
You suck. I'm better at you in a video game for X & Y reasons.
you win 500 intraweb points! Use them wisely.
Anyways its only with trial and error/ Or special situation you will finally "figure" the purpose of these spell.. no use fighting over what its used for.