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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 05:37:27
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The University Of Google, even cheaper than The University of Phoenix, because you don't even have to sign up for classes.
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By oldman 2014-08-11 05:41:17
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There is still quite a bit of research that you actually have to go to the library to access, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The journal publishers make too much money gouging the universities to let the bulk of their material onto the net for free.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 07:00:52
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oldman said: »
People like to think that science is pure.
Obviously you haven't seen the members of the Church of Climate Science Al Gore here.

Pleebo is a lifelong member of that church.
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 07:05:06
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According to my research 40% of research studies are busy work to get a PhD
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 07:10:31
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fonewear said: »
According to my research 40% of research studies are busy work to get a PhD
Well, my research says that 75% of the research studies are busy work to get a PhD.

Want to fight about it?

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By fonewear 2014-08-11 07:15:55
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Accord to my pie chart:


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By fonewear 2014-08-11 07:16:58
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
The University Of Google, even cheaper than The University of Phoenix, because you don't even have to sign up for classes.

Why even do research just say "according to my research"
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 07:47:13
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
oldman said: »
People like to think that science is pure.
Obviously you haven't seen the members of the Church of Climate Science Al Gore here.

Pleebo is a lifelong member of that church.
And their Tsar, Al Sharpton.
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 07:49:03
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Al Sharpton has a degree in exploiting people though...
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By Emiisuzu 2014-08-11 07:53:29
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I am not really getting the point of the law in the first place. You have to have a firm yes to have sex but in the end all you have to do is say it. In a court isn't that classified as hearsay.

"She told me yes" Vs "No I didn't"

So does that mean before sex people are gonna need to start doing paperwork? "Hold on babe I need you to sign right here clearing indicating your yes decision" probably would also require each party have a witness and what maybe get it notarized?

Don't get me wrong I am all for stopping sexual assault in all forms but I am not seeing how this law would do anything at all.

And on the topic on getting drunk and having sex. So who do when pin it on when both parties are drunk and make the decision to have sex. Does this become a double rape situation? (Note there is a difference between being drunk and blacking out) I don't think I can count the times I have seen two people get drunk and be all over each other at a party then turn around the next day and be all "What was I thinking?"
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 07:55:51
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I kinda feel bad for these hardcore liberals. (Not the elite, as they don't give a damn)

Al Gore is God.

The get all their news from MSNBC listening to Al Sharpton while they read the Huffington Post complain about men all day.

And to make matters worse, if they can't Google what anyone else says, provided it comes from one their accepted sites as well, it must be false.
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 07:57:44
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Same way gun laws work. Just create a "no rape" zone. Problem solved.


No one has been shot and killed in a gun free zone...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 08:00:21
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Emiisuzu said: »
I am not really getting the point of the law in the first place. You have to have a firm yes to have sex but in the end all you have to do is say it. In a court isn't that classified as hearsay.

"She told me yes" Vs "No I didn't"

So does that mean before sex people are gonna need to start doing paperwork? "Hold on babe I need you to sign right here clearing indicating your yes decision" probably would also require each party have a witness and what maybe get it notarized?

Don't get me wrong I am all for stopping sexual assault in all forms but I am not seeing how this law would do anything at all.

And on the topic on getting drunk and having sex. So who do when pin it on when both parties are drunk and make the decision to have sex. Does this become a double rape situation? (Note there is a difference between being drunk and blacking out) I don't think I can count the times I have seen two people get drunk and be all over each other at a party then turn around the next day and be all "What was I thinking?"
I'm picturing a scene at some frat house where a bunch drunk guys and girls get all this paper work done by their hippie lawyer friend who's high as a kite... well you can let your imagination take the story from here.

Sounds like a good idea for a movie.
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 08:01:32
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Kobe Bryant keeps those documents with him at all time.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 08:03:08
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"He got me drunk and raped me!"

"No, she raped my mind and used my body as some devious tool of her own pleasure"
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-08-11 08:07:55
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get google to offer consensual sex verification

you want to ***, you both log in your account and agree to ***, and google can provide that information to the police in the event of a rape

they're watching you do it on your laptop's webcam anyway
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 08:08:45
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What about a dye pack like the bank uses ? If you or someone you know gets raped you will be covered in blue ink.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:10:03
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Emiisuzu said: »
I am not really getting the point of the law in the first place. You have to have a firm yes to have sex but in the end all you have to do is say it. In a court isn't that classified as hearsay.

"She told me yes" Vs "No I didn't"

So does that mean before sex people are gonna need to start doing paperwork? "Hold on babe I need you to sign right here clearing indicating your yes decision" probably would also require each party have a witness and what maybe get it notarized?

Don't get me wrong I am all for stopping sexual assault in all forms but I am not seeing how this law would do anything at all.

And on the topic on getting drunk and having sex. So who do when pin it on when both parties are drunk and make the decision to have sex. Does this become a double rape situation? (Note there is a difference between being drunk and blacking out) I don't think I can count the times I have seen two people get drunk and be all over each other at a party then turn around the next day and be all "What was I thinking?"

False rape allegations need to be penalized heavily. Rape is an atrocity; trying to ruin someone's life by accusing them of such an atrocity because you regret or want to cover up your decision, for whatever reason, is about as malicious as it gets and it belittles actual rape victims to boot.

This law is just throwing a handful of dirt into already muddy water of he said/she said/they said.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-08-11 08:10:16
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then you'd just hear the professional victims saying their dye-pack malfunctioned the next day
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 08:10:33
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Both very good ideas.

The Google Sexual Consent Verification System now with on site dye packs!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:11:09
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
"He got me drunk and raped me!"

"No, she raped my mind and used my body as some devious tool of her own pleasure"

Remember when it was just, "Ugh! We got drunk and had sex? Maybe let's not do that again."

"Yeah. Uh. And don't tell anyone about this."

"Deal."
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By fonewear 2014-08-11 08:11:30
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Since we don't have any privacy anymore just put a chip inside your body that will beep when you get raped.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 08:12:05
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
"He got me drunk and raped me!"

"No, she raped my mind and used my body as some devious tool of her own pleasure"

Remember when it was just, "Ugh! We got drunk and had sex? Maybe let's not do that again."

"Yeah. Uh. And don't tell anyone about this."

"Deal."
Those were the days.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:12:31
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fonewear said: »
Since we don't have any privacy anymore just put a chip inside your body that will beep when you get raped.

I like the idea better of a chip that makes a really annoying sound until someone has sex with me.

"Look, ladies. One of you needs to take one for the team or no one is having a comfortable conversation in here."
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-11 08:15:31
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I'm sensing an Archie Bunker vibe.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 08:15:47
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Since we don't have any privacy anymore just put a chip inside your body that will beep when you get raped.

I like the idea better of a chip that makes a really annoying sound until someone has sex with me.

"Look, ladies. One of you needs to take one for the team or no one is having a comfortable conversation in here."
Sounds like the everything's ok alarm.

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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:16:08
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
I'm sensing an Archie Bunker vibe.

You think that would sell? I mean, I guess if some hipsters wanted an ironic sex toy.

Oh. Oh wait.

Not what you meant.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:16:34
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Since we don't have any privacy anymore just put a chip inside your body that will beep when you get raped.

I like the idea better of a chip that makes a really annoying sound until someone has sex with me.

"Look, ladies. One of you needs to take one for the team or no one is having a comfortable conversation in here."
Sounds like the everything's ok alarm.

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If I'm not getting any, everything is certainly not ok.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 08:17:34
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Since we don't have any privacy anymore just put a chip inside your body that will beep when you get raped.

I like the idea better of a chip that makes a really annoying sound until someone has sex with me.

"Look, ladies. One of you needs to take one for the team or no one is having a comfortable conversation in here."

Actually, truth be told, as I think on it, this is mostly how a lot of guys I knew in college operrated anyhow; they just didn't need the chip. They used their own voice.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-11 08:18:28
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You're not a real old man until you've seen "All in the Family".
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