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California debates 'yes means yes' sex assault law
California debates 'yes means yes' sex assault law
I don't always rape but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Stay slutty, my friends. Odin.Jassik said: » naturally the nutjobs start by blaming the victim then move on to citing obscure and incredulous case studies as proof that there are no victims Hey hey! I am not saying there are no victims. I just said this law is good for removing ambiguity. That's one of the reasons I purposely didn't post Eugene Kanin's statistic result in his study. This law is good for nothing. How hard is it to say "no"? It's clearly easier to say "no" than "yes"!
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » This law is good for nothing. How hard is it to say "no"? It's clearly easier to say "no" than "yes"! California is trying to figure out what "yes" means. "No" means "no" just isn't good enough? and its a proposed law isn't it? I'm not incorrect in referring to it as "law", just unspecific.
I guess that's not good enough for the feminazis tho. Misandry > everything after all... Ragnarok.Nausi said: » "No" means "no" just isn't good enough? and its a proposed law isn't it? I'm not incorrect in referring to it as "law", just unspecific. I guess that's not good enough for the feminazis tho. Misandry > everything after all... They're trying to clearly define that a person who isn't conscious or unable to protest isn't consenting. Much the same way we have laws that clearly define that a 12 year old isn't capable of giving consent, whether they say "no" or not. So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent?
Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? It's just more misandry from certain women's groups... Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. heh, don't ever say sexism doesn't occur for men.... Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. See the law already exists. It only solidifies my claim that this is good for nothing.
Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? 78% of reported rape cases in the USA in 2008 were committed by men. so in this instance, yes, we are the predators most of the time. (cops like statistics) Siren.Mosin said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? 78% of reported rape cases in the USA in 2008 were committed by men. so in this instance, yes, we are the predators most of the time. (cops like statistics) Or women raped by women? Is this like the France War record where the only war France has ever won was against itself? Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. I know it is in Idaho, but I can't say for other states... but... Who makes that determination? Perceivable, there would be only 2 people present, and if one person is very drunk, chances are the other is. So, who's judgement is credible? The girl who says she didn't know what was happening and couldn't fight back or the guy who says she acted like she was enjoying it and never said to stop? There is definitely some merit in positive confirmation, but requiring both parties to be sober enough to enter a legal agreement is pretty pathetic. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? 78% of reported rape cases in the USA in 2008 were committed by men. so in this instance, yes, we are the predators most of the time. (cops like statistics) Or women raped by women? Is this like the France War record where the only war France has ever won was against itself? Woman do commit crimes, even sexual and violent crimes. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? 78% of reported rape cases in the USA in 2008 were committed by men. so in this instance, yes, we are the predators most of the time. (cops like statistics) Or women raped by women? Thank the male-dominated legal system for putting little emphasis on sexual abuse against men committed by women.
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » See the law already exists. It only solidifies my claim that this is good for nothing. Sorta thing needs to be said about age of consent as well, its stupid that every single state has like 1-4 varying ages in which a person suddenly is able to have sex legally. but thats a different discussion. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. Odin.Jassik said: » Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. I know it is in Idaho, but I can't say for other states... but... Who makes that determination? Perceivable, there would be only 2 people present, and if one person is very drunk, chances are the other is. So, who's judgement is credible? The girl who says she didn't know what was happening and couldn't fight back or the guy who says she acted like she was enjoying it and never said to stop? There is definitely some merit in positive confirmation, but requiring both parties to be sober enough to enter a legal agreement is pretty pathetic. (Edit: well, depending on if your state has these laws, and blah, etc.) Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? It's just more misandry from certain women's groups... Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Enuyasha said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So if I goto a party, get drunk, hit on a girl and we both end up having sloppy sex I can call rape cause she didn't seek my consent? Or am I the only one at fault cause you know, I'm a guy, and guys are predators? Legally speaking, who knows, by current standards if neither of you protested, it would be considered consensual. But, I'd imagine that it would depend on the police/prosecutor if the girl pointed the finger at you, since that's the social stigma of being a guy. I know it is in Idaho, but I can't say for other states... but... Who makes that determination? Perceivable, there would be only 2 people present, and if one person is very drunk, chances are the other is. So, who's judgement is credible? The girl who says she didn't know what was happening and couldn't fight back or the guy who says she acted like she was enjoying it and never said to stop? There is definitely some merit in positive confirmation, but requiring both parties to be sober enough to enter a legal agreement is pretty pathetic. (Edit: well, depending on if your state has these laws, and blah, etc.) Again, it would probably depend on the prosecutor. It takes little more than the insinuation to cause serious damage to someone's life. Simply being charged with a crime can be detrimental. eslim said: » women are a paradox. I think even with all male sexual abuse cases being reported that assaults are largely perpetrated by men in our society. The way things are set up, men are encouraged to be forceful towards women in relationships from an early age whereas sexuality on the female side is stymied, unless it serves male interests of course.
Some men tend to mellow out over the years as they settle down and see the female point of view but young hotshots are still out there playing their slimest cards and looking like creeps for a reason. Cue the catcalling. #cringe Here's where the MRAs come out and try to tell me men get catcalled all the time.
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » This law is good for nothing. How hard is it to say "no"? It's clearly easier to say "no" than "yes"! Kinda hard to say no if you are blitzed out on rolfies. I would theorize that it's the less attractive women who complain to the more attractive men that gives them the notion of needing to be more forceful with women. I would also therorize that it is the more attractive females that complain to the less attractive males about being hit on all the time and get the idea that men should be the ones demonized.
Of course someone would need to prove this with statistics and of course attractiveness is relative to the current society so it would be hard to prove. |
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