[dev1241] Final Adoulin Quest Rewards

Everytime you post something my head hurts, it's like you don't even read or check the info online but then try and post saying everyone else is wrong.

Seriously learn how the game works because this only makes you seem stupid...

Karieyh ring is not a great WS ring, for EVERY SINGLE WS A STAT + RING LOOKS AT THIS TAKES A DUMP AND MOVES ON.

You would need to CAP pDIF to cap which is basically impossible, you need like 3600+ attack on tojil to cap which you aint doing without Geo, removing aura and then applying Angon with DIA3 (or COR dia2 with Light shot x2).

The only good part about Karieyh is that you can be gimp and lazy and save a few inventory slots on stat rings.

When you say Vocane and then mention WS... do you mean Karieyh?

No idea what you talking about! (Ninja Edited, I need to go back to Specsavers, these new glasses suck).

I realize I'm just being contrary, but I still feel the need to point this out. Exception to the bolded statement, Atonement.

Well and Possibly Flash Nova... depending on buffs.... (Although arguably not BiS..)

Don't give a fizzuck what yall think. grabbing a Renaye ring for me GEO/blu. and BLU/geo.

Then why post it.....

and ignoring the fact that Weatherspoon has +10% Light damage and you can only have one or the other (for Flash Nova).

Edit: wtf, I swear I was responding to someone. Oh well. Here is a post anyway:

Weatherspoon is:
* Best MAcc ring
* Best Fast Cast ring
* Best Occasionally Quickens ring
* Light Damage +10% as a random bonus that I'll never use

I'll be using it, for sure. Here's something I wrote on the OF not long ago, updated slightly:


That's 6-8 usable rings, many of which have very limited utility.

Ninja delete!

Anyways, yes it's a viable choice I guess, however I'm very drawn towards the Sublimation/refresh/regen ring, although I would like the fastcast ring sigh.

SE confirmed, the DT ring mistranslated.


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A 6/6/6 Dark Ring is actually -6% MDT, -6% PDT, and -12% BDT.

Considering BDT is the hardest to get in any real amount, I'd say this "not Damage taken II" thing pretty much kills any remaining interest I still had in Vocane ring.

You know, I don't agree with you on most things, but this time, you got my full support, and [+]

Well, as Byrth said, Vocane eliminated.

Very tough choice between the Karieyh and Haverton though.

Coronoch, all magical ws, regain for idle, all single hit ws to save 15m on Ifrit+1
-or-
snapshot+, and (almost) useless DW+

If RNG had native DW... I like to melee RNG oldschool. But I think I just talked myself into Karieyh

Best holy/Banish nuke ring- to be paired with Globidonta ring!

Pardon me if i'm wrong but, all the gear that has "*elemental* magic MAB + X" translates to affinity/magic accuracy like Archon Ring and Pixie Hairpin?

If so, that's a pretty hearty bonus on top of the M.acc the ring already comes with for things like Light Shot, any light based sleep a BLU has and probably other things that I can't think of right now- bye-bye Perception Ring :v

I'm pretty sure it doesn't give any MAcc. It just gives a percent based boost to damage. So it's by far the best ring for light-based nukes/damage, but there's a pretty scant supply of such abilities/spells on the jobs that I play.

Best Trueflight ring!

The DW on Haverton is not useless, it's a best-in-slot TP piece for any DW job... when you're not getting any buffs (including from trusts). I know that's not too common these days, but farming Salvage/Dyna solo is a very notable situational use, or any other truly solo or unbuffed activity. Need 74 DW to hit total -80% delay reduction cap with no buffs (assuming capped gear haste). Yes, even NIN with the highest DW trait and tons of DW gear available needs Haverton to hit cap.

If you're not getting full party buffs it's also great. For instance, THF in an event stuck outside the main DD party and getting haste but no marches. DW+5 is gonna be very useful and you still won't come close to capping delay. Epona/Haverton should be best TP ring combo in that scenario.

I'm not saying the DW is the reason to pick this ring, but it's certainly a nice side benefit if you have the jobs to make use of it and you're picking based on the excellent Snapshot/Racc stats. At least not completely useless stats. For me with no mages and all of the ranged/light DDs/DW jobs, it fits.

I'm personally going Haverton mainly for my RNG, killer Snapshot/Racc piece. But I'll use it for DW any time I'm not getting buffs on NIN DNC THF BLU.

I just responded in the rng thread, but.

I can't condone taking a ring under the premise of farming salvage or dynamis a couple minutes faster, that's silly. Don't you think?

If you were going that route, you should take the Gorney ring and get the TH+, again, can't get behind that.

RNG is only used under high buffs, typically with courser's roll/flurry, we HAVE to be capped on Snap... (NEEDS TESTING!).

If you're in the reject party on THF, or anything, you're not there to DD, making your DW irrelevant.

For COR/DNC I could see Haverton, for funsies, but I can't agree to picking a ring for funsies.

Gorney ring+chaac belt for TH2 in dyna dreamlands on Dnc/00 till I die.

Really?

Absolutely. But if I'm picking it for RNG anyway, I'll at least use the DW stat occasionally solo on other jobs. Making it better than useless, so I might as well take advantage of it.

I agree that it certainly shouldn't be the reason to select the ring, but just pointing out that there's some side-benefit. Maybe enough to break a tie if you're debating between two rings, for instance. For me, I don't have any mage jobs so it's down to WS ring versus ranged ring (with DW bonus). Since stat rings are basically sidegrades to the WS ring, I'll go with the ranged/DW choice.


I often find myself without Courser's Roll on RNG. But yeah, good point if you're drowning in Snapshot maybe it's little/no noticeable difference adding it on the ring.

Still the best R.Acc ring too though, would also replace something like Hajduk/Paqi rings if you use those for anything at all. I often shoot in Rajas/R.Acc ring myself, so I'd make use of Haverton there as well as preshot.


Just because you're not there to DD doesn't mean you can't do the best you can with the buffs you are given and provide some extra help.

"I'm not here to DD" is also the argument of lousy CORs who don't have any melee or ranged gear and just roll because they got an invite to buff. I think most smart players realize that you still have secondary roles and it's worth trying to be good at them.

That's so silly. A good thief, playing well, can do really nice damage, especially in high tier battlefields. I don't understand why people are so narrow minded that they only see it as TH tool. But to each their own. It's a great piece for thief and nin too, especially with Daken.

You completely forgot the reject party part. If I'm there in a buffless party, I'm sticking TH and then AFK'n till the next mob.

No buffs = No participation.

That's a teamplayer.

That's how I roll. (Corsair pun)

Non buffed dd Is usually just an mp sink now days anyways

Being able to Geo/dnc or whatever you fancy for the sake of variety when farming and being able to ditch /THF and still have th2 from gorney ring+belt is quite welcome.

Maybe its just cause I farm dyna/salvage almost every day and never get to play anything but backline these days in party/battle content that I want a ring that benefits me on my own damn time where I can play what I want while I farm.