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 Seraph.Jacaut
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By Seraph.Jacaut 2013-03-27 22:07:29
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i just charmed a Tough bunny in new areas . . . IS CHARM BACK ZOMG?! im stoked lol. what do you all think?
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By Asura.Thebatman 2013-03-27 22:27:50
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2013-03-27 22:28:42
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all those years of keeping my charm set around *** the hell yes
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2013-03-27 22:29:41
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The butterflies are charmable. :)

Grasshoppers too!
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2013-03-27 22:31:37
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i can finally be a bst again and my pets can have sub jobs!
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By Seraph.Jacaut 2013-03-27 22:33:50
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imma be building a charm set it seems now XD
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By Cerberus.Sephrin 2013-03-27 22:34:46
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Oh my.
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By Bismarck.Vespertaru 2013-03-27 23:06:51
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The Abyssea burned BSTs will actually have to learn how to play a different style now, what will become of them?!
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By Phoenix.Kaparu 2013-03-27 23:18:07
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They'll metamorphasize into.. the same thing they are now.

Beastmaster wasn't hard before Abyssea.
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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-03-27 23:25:22
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Phoenix.Kaparu said: »
They'll metamorphasize into.. the same thing they are now.

Beastmaster wasn't hard before Abyssea.
I'm glad someone said it. People like to pretend it took a certain amazing skill bestowed only upon the chosen ones to play bst before abyssea.

Yeah, if you're good at the job it obviously makes a difference, but there is no difference when it comes to charming other than pre-abyssea will probably have charm sets already.

Even then, we'll see how that goes because jug pets still provide certain aspects that charmed pets cannot until we do more testing to verify otherwise (TH on dipper and falcorr, etc.).
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2013-03-27 23:38:49
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for me it's not so much harder than jug pet spam it was the total freedom of having an entire zone as your weapon
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By Massakre 2013-03-28 13:57:14
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for me it's not so much harder than jug pet spam it was the total freedom of having an entire zone as your weapon

Very True, Jug pets are not as strong as charmed mobs of higher level as well. This will allow BST once again to solo things not many other jobs could even dream of attempting.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2013-03-29 07:24:48
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Rala Waterways, underneath the city, is filled with Charmable mobs in the T~VT range. Bats, crabs, leeches, spiders, pugils, efts, slimes...

Also, mini-Krabkatoa!

Edit: Slugs are in the zone as well.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-03-29 07:42:06
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Even though I never play BST I always thought it was a little unfair for BST not to be able to charm in abyssea. This is pretty cool to read about.
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By Fenrir.Phatstackodax 2013-03-29 09:55:15
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thank god. real bsts can return!
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By Valefor.Endoq 2013-03-29 09:59:30
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charm? where do i get scroll of charm for my bst?!
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By Asura.Draus 2013-03-29 10:01:17
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CHARM ALL THE THINGS!?
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-03-29 10:05:35
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What is this charm ability you speak of? Did they have it in the patch notes or did we time warp back to 2005? I thought they removed that ***lol. I kid I kid I have 4 toons all 99 bst now I finally have to start to think about charm gear again dang I have to recall where I put all that bleep lol...
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-03-29 10:09:19
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kenshynofshiva said: »
What is this charm ability you speak of? Did they have it in the patch notes or did we time warp back to 2005? I thought they removed that ***lol. I kid I kid I have 4 toons all 99 bst now I finally have to start to think about charm gear again dang I have to recall where I put all that bleep lol...

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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2013-03-29 21:49:52
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Mini-Lancing Lamorak, Panopts, Acuex... Lots of stuff to charm! All T~VT.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-03-29 21:55:04
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Die BST!
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By Enuyasha 2013-03-29 22:05:43
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Do you really wanna lose the ability to tell your mob exactly what move to use :<
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-03-29 22:15:37
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Massakre said: »
Very True, Jug pets are not as strong as charmed mobs of higher level as well. This will allow BST once again to solo things not many other jobs could even dream of attempting.

Like what?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-29 22:21:54
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Enuyasha said: »
Do you really wanna lose the ability to tell your mob exactly what move to use :<

yes as the DPS of a VT pet is considerbly higher than a Jug pet.

Not to mention their HP is higher than jug pets ( I find pets have about 5k and charmed mobs in aldoulin about 7-8k )

Not to mention the content is harder so a EM pet vs a VT won't last very long, the idea of BST solo isn't about killing fast, its about safety, and using irritating mobs as cannon fodder
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By Enuyasha 2013-03-29 22:25:42
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Do you really wanna lose the ability to tell your mob exactly what move to use :<

yes as the DPS of a VT pet is considerbly higher than a Jug pet.

Not to mention their HP is higher than jug pets ( I find pets have about 5k and charmed mobs in aldoulin about 7-8k )

Not to mention the content is harder so a EM pet vs a VT won't last very long, the idea of BST solo isn't about killing fast, its about safety, and using irritating mobs as cannon fodder
Then theres the secondary concern of having two VT+ mobs on you rather than one. When it decharms (of course theres an "if it decharms"). im open to charming, but dont want to lose the option to increase DPS by choosing the actual DPS move.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-03-29 22:29:40
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Fantasize all you want, BST pre-Abyssea took far more skill than you know or probably possess. If you disagree, it's because your standards are aligned with everyone else who thinks gear swap macros and R/E/M weapons make them skilled.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-03-29 22:31:23
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Massakre said: »
Very True, Jug pets are not as strong as charmed mobs of higher level as well. This will allow BST once again to solo things not many other jobs could even dream of attempting.

Like what?

Well, the content is pretty new, so who knows? But charmed pets do allow solos that jug pets do not. With jug pets, you are riding your Reward and Call Beast timers. With charmed mobs, you have an endless army to throw against an NM. Of course, it brings the risk of mischarms, but I find it more exciting to play the old way.

Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Do you really wanna lose the ability to tell your mob exactly what move to use :<

yes as the DPS of a VT pet is considerbly higher than a Jug pet.

Not to mention their HP is higher than jug pets ( I find pets have about 5k and charmed mobs in aldoulin about 7-8k )

Not to mention the content is harder so a EM pet vs a VT won't last very long, the idea of BST solo isn't about killing fast, its about safety, and using irritating mobs as cannon fodder

Some EMs can take some VTs, in fairness.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-03-29 22:31:38
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Throwing fodder pets at something til it eventually dies an hour later wasn't especially difficult.
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By Sylph.Silvra 2013-03-29 22:32:21
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So glad charming is back!
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-03-29 22:34:24
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Throwing fodder pets at something til it eventually dies an hour later wasn't especially difficult.

You had to worry about mischarms and you had to anticipate when you needed to switch pets. It was definitely a bit harder than the Abyssea model of putting a Dipper/Falcorr/Nazuna on something and just using Reward when your timer was up.
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