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 Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 16:33:08
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Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
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Helel, I want to touch myself to your RNG sometimes
You cheating on me? You're cheating on me.

Oh gaspee.

I want to touch myself to Helel's RNG.
I want to take your RNG home with me and ravage it all night.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 16:33:57
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
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...RNG is good for killing fetters in Provenance Watcher, and for procing Archery.

Helel, I want to touch myself to your RNG sometimes, but it's still not going to keep up with delay-capped WARs with MS up and DRKs/SAMs on a 4-minute SV/Embrava fight.

My avg dmg in Prov watcher is 60k sometimes im first in parse (Anni 95). So your argument is invalid.

Something tells me that this means your melee are subpar :<
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-04-23 16:35:26
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I'll fight you for gaspee :x
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2012-04-23 16:35:44
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
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...RNG is good for killing fetters in Provenance Watcher, and for procing Archery.

Helel, I want to touch myself to your RNG sometimes, but it's still not going to keep up with delay-capped WARs with MS up and DRKs/SAMs on a 4-minute SV/Embrava fight.

My avg dmg in Prov watcher is 60k sometimes im first in parse (Anni 95). So your argument is invalid.

Something tells me that this means your melee are subpar :<

Too bad for you but its not lol
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 16:36:12
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
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...RNG is good for killing fetters in Provenance Watcher, and for procing Archery.

Helel, I want to touch myself to your RNG sometimes, but it's still not going to keep up with delay-capped WARs with MS up and DRKs/SAMs on a 4-minute SV/Embrava fight.

My avg dmg in Prov watcher is 60k sometimes im first in parse (Anni 95). So your argument is invalid.

Something tells me that this means your melee are subpar :<

Too bad for you but its not lol

Burden of proof is not on me.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-23 16:36:55
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He's in the Atoreis Brigade, argument is futile.
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2012-04-23 16:44:28
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Bahamut.Ragni said: »
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
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...RNG is good for killing fetters in Provenance Watcher, and for procing Archery.

Helel, I want to touch myself to your RNG sometimes, but it's still not going to keep up with delay-capped WARs with MS up and DRKs/SAMs on a 4-minute SV/Embrava fight.

My avg dmg in Prov watcher is 60k sometimes im first in parse (Anni 95). So your argument is invalid.

Something tells me that this means your melee are subpar :<

Too bad for you but its not lol

Burden of proof is not on me.

No SV songs on this thats why its only 40k'ish~

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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 16:50:40
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So a a parse of a bunch of melees I've never heard of is supposed to prove that they were good?
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By mortontony1 2012-04-23 16:55:02
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But they had a light skillchain! They MUST be good!
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2012-04-23 16:55:38
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This proves that you are an idiot lol .

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also lol @Fenrir.Pajamas
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:00:58
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
This proves that you are an idiot lol .

Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-23 17:02:03
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
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Annihilator RNG is still slightly sub par to good melee DDs if all are fully buffed. I was keeping up(within 5-10% on good fights) to a good 99 ragnarok DRK on my 95 annihilator at qilin though. The lack in damage is still quite significant, your WS frequency is just too low to consistently beat good DDs who WS as much as possible.

I'm curious how a kclub rng would do on some voidwatch if you were able to cap accuracy though, any thoughts? I know on some lower end NMs, with proper gear you could cap(Qilin, etc).

Well his weapon is 99 and yours is 95 first off. Assuming you're using tact roll + regain atma, your WS frequency should only be slightly less than his. If he has march as well, then you should have minuet, and his ws frequency will go way up, but your damage should go way up as well. You should have no trouble hitting 6.5k last stands with full buffs. It'll be hard for anyone to keep up with that.

That said, qilin is a crap mob. I think you'll see RNG shine more on harder stuff like provenance watcher, and certainly in legion.
Just saw this, and mind posting gear that you are hitting 6.5k last stands? I thought I had one of the better sets, had minuet x2 chaos roll, and my highest was 5.1k. You seem to be exaggerating quite a good bit, and WS average on resolution was anywhere from 3.7k-4.5k over 6 fights last night.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:13:22
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But anyway guys, this just in! Ragni's RNG is the bestest DD ever, gets beaten by a 90 Masa SAM parsing at 85% accuracy.
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2012-04-23 17:14:29
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-23 17:15:30
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Your posts are making you look like a complete idiot, just stop. That samurai looks pitiful based on his WS average.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:16:00
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Bahamut.Ragni said: »
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Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole.

The only hole I'm digging myself into is the one where people actually agree with me.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-23 17:16:29
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Your posts are making you look like a complete idiot, just stop. That samurai looks pitiful based on his WS average.
All the melee do looking at WS damage and accuracy.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-23 17:17:04
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But... but... parse... it's... it's so conclusive T~T
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-23 17:17:05
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Your posts are making you look like a complete idiot, just stop. That samurai looks pitiful based on his WS average.
Let's not bash someone who isn't here to defend themselves and was brought into a conversation without his/her knowledge?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:19:17
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All this aside, RNG is great in Legion. But that event was DoA.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-04-23 17:19:28
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
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Your posts are making you look like a complete idiot, just stop. That samurai looks pitiful based on his WS average.
Let's not bash someone who isn't here to defend themselves and was brought into a conversation without his/her knowledge?

He was here to defend himself, as sylow quite simply pointed out the burden of proof was on him to defend his melees, which is what he was trying(and failing) to do.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-23 17:19:49
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
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Your posts are making you look like a complete idiot, just stop. That samurai looks pitiful based on his WS average.
Let's not bash someone who isn't here to defend themselves and was brought into a conversation without his/her knowledge?

When something is being used as evidence and that evidence points to a contrary opinion, not pointing it out would be ludicrous.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-23 17:22:41
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Right, but saying someone looks pitiful is going a step beyond pointing something out.

And no, Hohen, the SAM, Zellc is not here.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:24:15
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I guess I can nitpick:

1.) Why is that GS DRK spamming Torcleaver instead of Resolution?

2.) Why is there not a single use of Upheaval from your WAR, when MS should be up for at least part of the fight?

3.) Why is your SAM parsing at 85% accuracy?

4.) Why is your SAM using 90 Masamune?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-23 17:25:54
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WAR could've had his 2hr reset in the previous fights. More, I'm a WAR main and I haven't bothered with Upheaval. I don't use my 2hr enough to justify it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-23 17:26:21
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Right, but saying someone looks pitiful is going a step beyond pointing something out.

And no, Hohen, the SAM, Zellc is not here.

Lying is wrong, mmkay. Objective bluntness is much better than being a carebear.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-23 17:28:40
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
WAR could've had his 2hr reset in the previous fights. More, I'm a WAR main and I haven't bothered with Upheaval. I don't use my 2hr enough to justify it.

It's not like 2hrs can be easily reset after the 3 fights beforehand, or anything.

Also, for this fight, MS should be used, so Upheaval wins while it's up. It's fine to play sub-optimally, but it's not okay to pretend that sub-optimal tactics are optimal.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-04-23 17:28:42
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
I guess I can nitpick:

1.) Why is that GS DRK spamming Torcleaver instead of Resolution?

2.) Why is there not a single use of Upheaval from your WAR, when MS should be up for at least part of the fight?

3.) Why is your SAM parsing at 85% accuracy?

4.) Why is your SAM using 90 Masamune?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-23 17:29:40
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