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lv.99 MNK TP set
should i stick with tantra head +2 then? or swap into Oce +1, im thinking oce +1
ok so until i pick up the actual thaumas body with nohm mitts its not as good as toci/ocel
Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Exuine +3 is only winning if you have Nomkahpa Mitts for TP. You need Thaumas to pull ahead of the Toci's/Oce. +1 combination by itself. Anyways, the difference is minuscule if you want to make your Spellcast more friendly. If you don't have Ganesha's and do have Toci's/Oce+1, I wouldn't bother at all though. Ok sorry, just wana make sure i get this right before i toss 7m into mitts. Thaumas > toci/oce. Euxine +3 and mitts > toci/oce. best combo when impetus is down thaumas + ganesha's? ALl that being said, my entire reason for this is, i cannot get toci's to drop to save my goddamn life. 0/102011298129819 bla blah. I'm sick of it, and have watched the majority of my server get and leave me with gimps in my shout groups. So, until i clear this floor 100 and pick thaum. does +3 body and Oce head +1 beat Toci's harness and Oce +1 head. I just assumed Ganesha's because it's pretty standard gear in my opinion.
Thaumas > Toci/Oce+1 Exuine +3 w/ Ganesha's + Nomkahpa > Toci's + Oce+1 Toci's/Oce+1 > Exuine +3 if using Tantra, Melee +2, whatever. Bahamut.Dionikes said: » does +3 body and Oce head +1 beat Toci's harness and Oce +1 head. No, it wouldn't. But if you don't actually have Toci's, just use Tantra +2 head because everything I've been going off about is irrelevant. It's the set bonus that pulls it ahead of other things. You'd lose quite some str/att using euxi+oce+1.
Personally, I'd just stick to af3 +2, make use of the hands-slot for weapon rank or acc/att as needed, until I got the gear right. If maths prove me wrong then that's fine but until you get Toci's at least, I'd stick to old setups for endgame. They are not bad items at all. @Grand: Nearly same accuracy on Thaumas, way more DPS/TP gain through multi attacks and allows you to cap haste wearing Ganesha's/Melee+2 for higher tier stuff, I don't really see it as a comparison.
Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Grand: Nearly same accuracy on Thaumas, way more DPS/TP gain through multi attacks and allows you to cap haste wearing Ganesha's/Melee+2 for higher tier stuff, I don't really see it as a comparison. Carbuncle.Grandthief said: » You'd lose quite some str/att using euxi+oce+1. Personally, I'd just stick to af3 +2, make use of the hands-slot for weapon rank or acc/att as needed, until I got the gear right. If maths prove me wrong then that's fine but until you get Toci's at least, I'd stick to old setups for endgame. They are not bad items at all. Ok i get it, for some reason i ignored the set bonus thinking toci's and the AH piece wouldnt match up.
So unless i get the thaumas body, which has maybe enough da/ta/qa to beat the set, stick with +2. Honestly i'll probablyhave thaumas before toci's because i've given up lol That being said, ganesha mask with thaumas body sounds like the best bet? Bahamut.Dionikes said: » Ok i get it, for some reason i ignored the set bonus thinking toci's and the AH piece wouldnt match up. So unless i get the thaumas body, which has maybe enough da/ta/qa to beat the set, stick with +2. Honestly i'll probablyhave thaumas before toci's because i've given up lol That being said, ganesha mask with thaumas body sounds like the best bet? IMO, Thau + Gan > Toci's + Oce+1 > AF3 +2 > any other random combo. Hope it helped you some.
I had been having the same issue wondering about Thau body vs Toci/Oce for Impetus down. Ganesha's is going to give you 24-25 attack if you're using the bread and butter TP set atm, AF3+2 legs/feet, AF2+2 hands, Ghillie earring, Potestas, etc. After cancelling out shared stats, it comes down to:
Thaumus Coat + Ganesha = 9 attack(If ganesha provides 25 attack), 3% Quad attack, 1% haste (only topping off the miniscule, final fraction of a %) Toci + Oce(+1) = 13 STR, 26 DEX, 11 acc. (The bonus acc/attack from the base STR/DEX are accounted and cancelled for in the comparison). So you end up trading 1-2% crit rate, 11 acc, and the base STR for 9 attack and 3% quad. Tbh, I have been curious as to if Thaumus coat even wins impetus up due to the increased WS frequency. Moving a bit off topic, but it seems like the order for selecting Thaumus as you beat Nyzul would be: Vere Mnk: Body > Legs > Feet Spharai Mnk: Body > Feet > Hands What do you mean Impetus up? Impetus bonus on AF3+2 is applied cumulatively when it is equipped, you should be tp'ing in Thaumas or something with more DA/TA/attack rounds.
Right. I must be slowpoking pretty hard here then. I had been under the impression that impetus up, Tantra+2 over Toci's was determined to be the "way to go", even for TP phase--but its sounding like I am very misinformed in that department
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Quick question if i don't yet have a Ganesha's Mask (working on it) what would be better for tp Tantra +2, Oce. headpiece +1 or Brego helm ?
The retroactive boost only works while it's on, and only gives crit. damage. Toci/Oce +1 with impetus down, Tantra+2/Ganesha's with impetus up. Melee +2 gloves on your Toci set, get rid of bruiser's earring.
Sylph.Nikia said: » Wanted to see what thoughts were about this set: I don't have Thaumas gear yet, I know there use to be some debate over DMG tiers and what neck/ear combo works best. I been using this combo because I was under the impression it brings me up another DMG tier, is this a true? I am not fond of rancor collar because when I play MNK it is usually as tank or I just end up tanking anyway. For impetus I use to think +2 Body needed to be on while TPing but after reading this and BGwiki would macroing it into my Boost set give the retroactive ATT bonus for when I use Shijin? In the end would Toci/Oce+1 OR Ganesha/Tantra win? Again I realize Thaumas is better but til I get it what option out of those two are better? Thank you. The damage of a hand-to-hand weapon is added to a character's natural hand-to-hand damage. A character's natural hand-to-hand damage is calculated by multiplying hand-to-hand skill by 0.11 and then adding 3. From wiki, for future referance so you easily can see if you break a tier yourself :3 You should still use rancor collar, the only thing it will put you in danger with is throat stab moves.
Oops, read what you said backwards. I meant the 53 damage tier isn't worth the tradeoffs.
Where do we stand on Rancor Mantle + Nefarious Collar for TP over Faith/Rancor + Atheling?
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