Blocking Guildwork

You are not a special snowflake. If you are shouting, you clearly intend for any audience to read what you are saying. If you don't like that, use a different method of communication.

As far as the other issue, with Guildwork monitoring chat log in real time..well..I opt to not use it..but that's on the individual level, nothing actually problematic.

Bull. ***.

I made a shout just for you :p. But you weren't on....

The difference is that everyone here knows what they say is out there to say. A lot of people that play the game have no idea that their conversations are even being recorded and archived.

Other than what everyone else said, if you were really worried that Stan or anyone else affiliated with Guildwork was going to have the client upload your party/LS/tells/etc and read it, you could always not run the Guildwork client.

And @OP, there shouldn't be a reason to feel an invasion of privacy on shouts, nor a sense of anyone cheating.
There isn't a difference between you talking about someone behind their back and them seeing it on FFXIAH, and that person's friend being logged in to see it and pass it on to him.

I have never had that happen but if I do I'll let you know.

+1 ftl

The people who are saying that he shouldn't be using this site aren't talking about privacy, they're talking about the unfair advantage it provides since he's so against 3rd party tools or unfair advantages. Other than Yomi no one has said to stop using this site because it's public, they're telling him that because of the AH feature, and the guides and tips out there.

You realize any single person can easily take a screen shot of you in game either from your party, from your LS or from say/shout and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it?

This is the internet.. play offline if you want privacy or play on private servers.

hmmm i never though about this, but he is right, i'm surprised that SE still had not taken actions about ffxiah for tracking down users auctions house consumables or where that player is, cause this website is great to track down people/stalk if anyone switched servers and more, i used to have someone stalking and threatening me all over even if i switched servers when i used to be a taru. not to mention people judge by the stuff you buy or making fun of you

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore man lol..

That I care less about. If someone wants to take a screenshot of me, go for it. It probably won't be worth uploading, but even if they do, fantastic. I have no issues with that at all, since xi allows you to take screenshots.

I smell so much tin foil in this thread it's not even funny anymore.

He's been told to stop using the forums by multiple people because they're the same, then you said they're not the same. No one's said for him to stop using them because of privacy issues. He has a problem with unfair advantages, these forums provide an unfair advantage.

reported you to the STF for posting on this website

This is an awesome feature Imo

I feel obligated to inform you that you should probably bring this to internet court as SE is unlikely to do anything.

I wouldn't even call windower one of those unfair advantages; unless you're using plug-ins that exploit game mechanics.

I don't really consider time stamp and distance as game exploits.. or notifications...
The people who I know that have windower, only use those plug-ins. I don't use it myself, but I don't really see "unfair advantages" in those.

Shouts are one thing as people usually censor themselves in what they say for groups of people to see in the first place. My issue is that if he can skim shouts so easily what stops him from skimming other sorts of chat. Would you want someone to have access to your tells or pt chat? Some people here say he's trustworthy but I don't know this guy and I doubt most of the rest of you do either. I know that he's set up a site to make money in attempts to make game play a bit more customized and more accessible and he's going to charge you for a product that I'm not sure is even legal. Is that really a trustworthy person? I don't know for sure and hell he might be the most trustworthy guy out there. For me I personally have a problem with it and well my personal opinion isn't worth all that much anyways lol.

Ok, but what does that have to do with anything I've said?

The amount of money he could make off the content that compromises 99.9% of tells is probably not worth the cost computing time it would take to parse it.

Even things like spellcast aren't really cheating. You could do just about everything you could in spellcast with the ffxi macro slots.

Get a packet sniffer. You don't have to trust him. You can see anything going to or coming from your pc if you really want to.

I'm pretty surprised anyone cares about cheating anymore. Back in the day people used to be ashamed or kept it to themselves and voiced their hatred for it lol. Now a days people don't really seem to care anymore. Well, at least I thought so.

Eloquent response lol.

Prolly because slowly people start to realize that it doesn't really matter all that much.

alright, you guys keep talking about the STF...what's that? not familiar with the abbreviation.

Truth, I forgot they have counters and spell recast.. but yes, you could just easily macro those things save the longer abilities.


Regardless of all this... when looking at it from a fairness point of view...

1st: That's in the eyes of the beholder... you may find one thing fair, the next person may not...
2nd: If you think its unfair, don't use it. Just don't be surprised when you're shouting for something and the person who replies to you is no where near Jeuno.

Special Task Force. they apprently do stuff but you'll never see it :3