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Random Politics & Religion #03
Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Odin.Slore said: » Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Both sides have their share of violent morons, what's impressive is how Trump manages to stimulate violence from both side. He's an amazing troll. Whoever the front runner for the Republican nomination would have the same level of violence from protesters. These people don't even know what/why they are protesting, they are protesting because their way of life is being threatened. They like this chaos that is in America today. So trashing police cars and pulling people out of cars and beating them is appropriate? I pray that these idiots never try to pull me from my car because they are gonna meet my Glock quick, fast and in a hurry. I get a feeling you don't understand how these things work. The jumping to deadly violence yourself means as much. Kudos for being a tough guy. Emotions run high at these events. That is why they got out from their couch in the first place. Just like in Ferguson or Baltimore the media will focus on the exciting violence rather than protesters standing there peacefully. Nonetheless, when a bunch of emotional people are confronting each other some get out of hand. Others also take advantage of the situation and cause chaos. Peaceful protests regularly get infiltrated and set into a fury by instigators. Remember that people essentially have a herd mentality. We are animals after all. So the people here turning around with a grin and saying "my bias was right guiz, see?!" don't seem to get it. While I would not blame someone for speaking freely in most cases. This is certainly one where I do. These TV reality show drama antics are not presidential in the slightest. Trump wants people fired up and this ***happening. This gives him an edge and creates a problem with America that he purports himself as the solution to. People want solutions and if he convinces everyone things are going 'bad, bad, bad' then we will vote him in like all the other times that worked in history. Tough guy, haha. So let me get this straight if someone pulls you out of your car and starts beating you in the street like those protesters did you would not defend yourself? Are you shitting me? So glad I only lurk here for the most part. So many things just leave me...
Asura.Floppyseconds said: » If I walk up to some big overly powerful guy. Then tell him "You look terrible. Did your mother raise you to have an unhealthy obsession with lifting?". For this person to then punch me in the face as a response makes it exactly my problem that I caused. So I hope this is largely tongue in cheek, as in you don't really think this and are just arguing for the sake of argument. If I call you fat, I might be foolish to not expect you to maybe punch me in the face, but you don't get to tell the cops afterwards when they charge you with assault "yeah but the guy called me fat" and get off the hook. It is not against the law to speak freely, it is against the law to punch someone in the face. It is not against the law to hold a political rally, it is against the law to riot. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is different. In that case you are most directly inciting panic and chaos. While a kind of speech, that is not something that falls under the umbrella of "free speech" as we refer to it. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Both sides have their share of violent morons, what's impressive is how Trump manages to stimulate violence from both side. He's an amazing troll. Whoever the front runner for the Republican nomination would have the same level of violence from protesters. These people don't even know what/why they are protesting, they are protesting because their way of life is being threatened. They like this chaos that is in America today. If Kaisch was the nominee, everyone would be asleep. It's bad as it is to see so many people supporting Trump, it would be even worse if no one protested.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Both sides have their share of violent morons, what's impressive is how Trump manages to stimulate violence from both side. He's an amazing troll. Whoever the front runner for the Republican nomination would have the same level of violence from protesters. These people don't even know what/why they are protesting, they are protesting because their way of life is being threatened. They like this chaos that is in America today. If Kaisch was the nominee, everyone would be asleep. It's odd to think about it, but Kasich has actually better chances of beating Clinton lol.
Anna Ruthven said: » Odin.Slore said: » I aim for the head :) With sound, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/busting-a-dungeons-dragons-nerd/911308/ I couldn't find it on youtube. Valefor.Sehachan said: » It's odd to think about it, but Kasich has actually better chances of beating Clinton lol. Nah recent polls from fox and rauters(sp) have them dead heat now You can't really put any faith into those matchup polls this far out. They serve value in shaping public opinion than reflecting it.
Their sole purpose is to be something for candidates to point at and say "see I'm the best choice for nominee". Asura.Floppyseconds said: » unhealthy obsession with lifting? Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Stop focusing on free speech. It isn't about that. Kaisch is probably the best shot of beating Clinton only because people know ***-all about the guy and he positions himself as being rational besides Christian Warrior, Ted Cruz and Yuge Deals, Donald Trump. Donald is so divisive and so dependent on saying crazy ***to dodge his lack of substance that he's probably going to blow it against seasoned Clinton in a general race.
Fiorina/Cruz is the definition of a shitshow. Kaisch is lurking in the darkness, hoping to make his case to be nominee because he's undamaged. Odds are, Trump shows up to the convention with delegates in tow to be the nomninee. Your move, RNC. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Floppyseconds said: » unhealthy obsession with lifting? I Nissan. Anyway, props to you for standing your ground. However, you knew what would happen and chose your resolve over your safety :P Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Kaisch is probably the best shot of beating Clinton only because people know ***-all about the guy and he positions himself as being rational besides Christian Warrior, Ted Cruz and Yuge Deals, Donald Trump. Donald is so divisive and so dependent on saying crazy ***to dodge his lack of substance that he's probably going to blow it against seasoned Clinton in a general race. Fiorina/Cruz is the definition of a shitshow. Kaisch is lurking in the darkness, hoping to make his case to be nominee because he's undamaged. Odds are, Trump shows up to the convention with delegates in tow to be the nomninee. Your move, RNC. If Kasich becomes the nominee, he'll be run over by a tsunami of internet pancake eating gifs. It'll be 100x worse than Howard Dean. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Kaisch is probably the best shot of beating Clinton only because people know ***-all about the guy and he positions himself as being rational besides Christian Warrior, Ted Cruz and Yuge Deals, Donald Trump. Donald is so divisive and so dependent on saying crazy ***to dodge his lack of substance that he's probably going to blow it against seasoned Clinton in a general race. Fiorina/Cruz is the definition of a shitshow. Kaisch is lurking in the darkness, hoping to make his case to be nominee because he's undamaged. Odds are, Trump shows up to the convention with delegates in tow to be the nomninee. Your move, RNC. If Kasich becomes the nominee, he'll be run over by a tsunami of internet pancake eating gifs. It'll be 100x worse than Howard Dean. Ackeron said: » Anna Ruthven said: » Odin.Slore said: » I aim for the head :) With sound, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/busting-a-dungeons-dragons-nerd/911308/ I couldn't find it on youtube. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » What is it about then? Trump taking responsibility for other peoples reactions to what he said? Don't draw a cartoon of Mohamed then. You (and not the terrorist) would be responsible for all the deaths that ensued. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » something actually happened in your life for once YouTube Video Placeholder I love this song Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Being able to speak freely does not free you from the consequences of what you say. No it doesn't, but it also doesn't free anyone who reacts to what you say of the consequences of their reactions. It seems like people want to give a free pass to the protestors because they agree with what they're fighting against. That's lunacy. I have nothing against protesting in general, but anyone who riots because of Donald Trump is an imbecile. The Left might actually get something accomplished if people would learn how to object appropriately instead of losing their minds and turning the protesting into something entirely counterproductive. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Asura.Floppyseconds said: » Being able to speak freely does not free you from the consequences of what you say. No it doesn't, but it also doesn't free anyone who reacts to what you say of the consequences of their reactions. It seems like people want to give a free pass to the protestors because they agree with what they're fighting against. That's lunacy. I have nothing against protesting in general, but anyone who riots because of Donald Trump is an imbecile. The Left might actually get something accomplished if people would learn how to object appropriately instead of losing their minds and turning the protesting into something entirely counterproductive. I am certainly not giving a pass to the protesters. No one here is. Can we stop making this about "the left"? Just because some people on BOTH sides cause ***at these rallies doesn't mean there is this big "the left is out of control" issue. I don't think anyone in here points out the "both sides" more than me. The right isn't exactly the poster child for peaceful expression, but look at the past decade and see where the majority of riots are coming from. |
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