Gay Marriage Now Legal Across The US

Did you know that interracial marriages have only been legal since 1967?

But not in a gay kind of way.

Not even close. Churches take the parts they like and throw out the rest. I've attended church out of interest throughout my life and I've yet to hear a priest/minister/preacher teach Leviticus outside of condemning gays. contraception, and homosexuality. What's more, most churches I've attended teach things directly in opposition to the teachings of Christ.

I cannot figure out where this perceived persecution of religion is coming from, because in every single case concerning religious establishments, they've come out on top regardless of the situation.

I'd also like to point out that if any secular organization was responsible for allowing and covering up rampant sexual assault of children, the DoJ would have come in with a blowtorch.

Never mind.

Okay, so apparently you don't understand why Christian churches don't comply with the Old Testament still.

Its called fear mongering, its all they have now.

Apparently you don't understand you can't just take parts of it that appeal to you.

Otherwise it loses all its power as a sacred text.

Not that it had any in the first place, but you can't even pretend if you don't follow the whole thing.

So when can we change the law so that we can marry immediate family, children, and multiple partners? I mean don't tell me we get to use some kind of "judgement" to discriminate against one thing or another cause clearly that's not the case today.

From Jimmy.

Rustled Jimmy.

Don't get me wrong, the cherry picking of parts is a big problem. It's just that a ton of the Old Testament laws don't need to be followed anymore according to Christianity, and it has nothing to do with cherry picking.

If churches take Leviticus seriously, then there's gonna be trouble come Judgement Day.

Or do those churches perform sacrifices for the various offerings on the Sabbath?

Yes, yes, the New Testament changed all that, but he specifically mentioned the laws laid down in the Old.

Rules change, and for all we know one of the Bible's translators way back was a homophobe and threw all that in.

They're not supposed to follow the OT at all. The whole point of the NT is that it invalidates the OT to some extent.

If you wanna put the spurs to your sister and have genetic garbage for children, go ahead. Just know I'll call you a hypocrite if you ask for public assistance to raise your severely disabled child.

So.... the 10 commandments are out?

Too hard!

Wormfeeder is the one who brought leviticus into this conversation.

...okay, well, we're discussing rules from Leviticus being taught as current, soooo...

You're not wrong. But you're failing to see why it is pertinent to the discussion at hand.

All of them were reiterated in the New Testament to one extent or the other. And it doesn't invalidate everything from the Old Testament, mostly just the Mosaic Law.

As far as I'm aware marriage in churches only has anything to do with the union being recognized by god or whatever that religion worships. I know Catholics, at least, have refused to marry heterosexual couples for a multitude of different reasons. I'm fairly certain you still have to register with the state and get a marriage license through the state for it to have any meaning legally.

I don't remember Jesus saying anything about homosexuality.

So, is there a list of things that are permitted / forbidden? Because this is starting to feel like the IRS tax code.

Were you there that day?!

You do.


They do it frequently. They also will refuse to baptise babies born out of wedlock/to a second marriage for which they did not provide an anullment.

This all depends upon the specific priest, more or less, and how stringent his beliefs and interpretations are.

Father Kuba told my mother-in-law to get the *** out when she tried to get the twins baptised. But I know that subsequent to him, Father Phil was a pretty open-minded fella.

He even discussed the Life of Brian with me.

Jesus loved everyone, so I'm fairly sure he'd have been OK with it.

I mean, he didn't even condemn those who crucified him and betrayed him. Two strangers of the same gender wishing to formalize their union really shouldn't be a blip on the radar.

The point of the NT was to simplifiy it. Two rules, now: Love God, love your neighbor as yourself. That's it. Everything else is a natural extension of those two.

The New Testament on the whole can be boiled down to: Jesus was a cool guy, gave us simpler rules, and had to die so that his dad wouldn't send us all to Hell.

The people who rely on the Bible alone to make that judgment certainly have to stretch, so I'll give you that.

Must have been a day I was out gambling and having pre-marital sex.


Respectfully, what else could a Christian use to make that judgement?

No, it was never stipulated that those are the only two rules. Those are the greatest rules according to Jesus.