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By Asura.Llaessnar 2014-11-10 09:51:36
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http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/November_2014_Version_Update_Changes
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 10:02:08
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Sigh. Of course they broke it again. I hate updates. Can't even bother to log in if that's broken. #dependency
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-10 10:19:40
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Anyone else noticed that Cloud Hairpin/+1 are both neckpieces?

It's like wearing an earring on your finger
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-11-10 10:24:09
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If you're frustrated, sit back, relax, play Dark Souls II, get more frustrated.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-10 10:32:30
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Best item is that WHM staff. Cure potency 30-34% and Cure spellcasting time -10% can free up a whole slew of spaces.

Can possibly cap out potency with 3 gears now. Get 49% with only 2 gears and max Unity rank.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 10:36:48
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The best item is that Highwing Helm! 20 MAB =o Don't have to bother with WoE for Fug+1
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-10 10:38:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
The best item is that Highwing Helm! 20 MAB =o Don't have to bother with WoE for Fug+1
Too bad COR isn't on it.

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By Chyula 2014-11-10 10:42:26
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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But you would lose the double-duty MDT from dark ring, so that actually gains you 0% BDT and 2% PDT/MDT.
Does Damage Taken- not apply to Breath Damage? I always thought it did.


He means you are not gaining BDT compared to an Augmented Dark Ring with -MDT and -BDT. Since MDT for some reason also pulls double duty as BDT on those augments.

good luck trying to get a perfect dark ring, and trading off 2% mdt/pdt isnt a big deal as you will most likely capped it with this ring. this ring also gave hp and knock which should beat 6%+ dark ring in versatility.
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By Pantafernando 2014-11-10 10:43:29
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Sangarius +1 AKA Eponas Sword.
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By Chyula 2014-11-10 10:44:32
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three potential piece I see:

1. hairpin +1
2. Mab head for laden, oh wait Lolwf
3. Monk feet
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-10 10:44:33
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Chyula said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
But you would lose the double-duty MDT from dark ring, so that actually gains you 0% BDT and 2% PDT/MDT.
Does Damage Taken- not apply to Breath Damage? I always thought it did.


He means you are not gaining BDT compared to an Augmented Dark Ring with -MDT and -BDT. Since MDT for some reason also pulls double duty as BDT on those augments.

good luck trying to get a perfect dark ring, and trading off 2% mdt/pdt isnt a big deal as you will most likely capped it with this ring. this ring also gave hp and knock which should beat 6%+ dark ring in versatility.
You forgot cure potency received.
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By Chyula 2014-11-10 10:45:51
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Pantafernando said: »
Sangarius +1 AKA Eponas Sword.

and the amazing part its for war/drk only lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 10:54:02
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Chyula said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
But you would lose the double-duty MDT from dark ring, so that actually gains you 0% BDT and 2% PDT/MDT.
Does Damage Taken- not apply to Breath Damage? I always thought it did.


He means you are not gaining BDT compared to an Augmented Dark Ring with -MDT and -BDT. Since MDT for some reason also pulls double duty as BDT on those augments.

good luck trying to get a perfect dark ring, and trading off 2% mdt/pdt isnt a big deal as you will most likely capped it with this ring. this ring also gave hp and knock which should beat 6%+ dark ring in versatility.

You'd have to be a fool to choose a DT ring over the other options available. You don't need a Perfect Dark ring, Any dark ring is sufficient, as it doesn't take options away from better rings like vocane would.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-11-10 10:54:16
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Chyula said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Sangarius +1 AKA Eponas Sword.

and the amazing part its for war/drk only lol.

Sanguine blade sword drk is totally legit didnt you know.
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By Elazar1 2014-11-10 11:04:35
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Yet another hugely poor update, 2 items that seem worthwhile, bar mission rings.. And unity just seems lame.. But on the plus side I'm getting a feeling there's going to be a salvage update soon, with all the items they giving us for it, or am I just wishful thinking lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 11:08:18
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Elazar1 said: »
Yet another hugely poor update, 2 items that seem worthwhile, bar mission rings..
I see 3, and 1 sorta, but you're right, at least you said it and not me.
Elazar1 said: »
And unity just seems lame..
yuuuuuup
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But on the plus side I'm getting a feeling there's going to be a salvage update soon, with all the items they giving us for it, or am I just wishful thinking lol.
Not likely. At least, not soon.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2014-11-10 11:16:50
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Before we get iLVL Salvage we have to get iLVL AF3, and that's going to be a decent amount work.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-11-10 11:24:09
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
Before we get iLVL Salvage we have to get iLVL AF3, and that's going to be a decent amount work.
Looking forward to Reforged Creed Legs, strong PDT piece with decrease enmity loss when taking damage {Yes, please}.
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By Ragnarok.Inx 2014-11-10 11:28:40
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Heh, just wait until it turns out that reforging AF3 requires mats that drop from UC "Wanted" fights.
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By Chyula 2014-11-10 11:29:51
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Chyula said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
But you would lose the double-duty MDT from dark ring, so that actually gains you 0% BDT and 2% PDT/MDT.
Does Damage Taken- not apply to Breath Damage? I always thought it did.


He means you are not gaining BDT compared to an Augmented Dark Ring with -MDT and -BDT. Since MDT for some reason also pulls double duty as BDT on those augments.

good luck trying to get a perfect dark ring, and trading off 2% mdt/pdt isnt a big deal as you will most likely capped it with this ring. this ring also gave hp and knock which should beat 6%+ dark ring in versatility.

You'd have to be a fool to choose a DT ring over the other options available. You don't need a Perfect Dark ring, Any dark ring is sufficient, as it doesn't take options away from better rings like vocane would.

you talking about one thing and now you change to talk about other thing. I don't even know what you trying to prove anymore, most of these rings are just minor upgrade to other option available and it all come down to preferred job you want to utilize on.
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By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2014-11-10 11:34:14
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Everyone else is complaining about armor and I'm over here like.. "Where's some new 105+ synthesis recipes!?"
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-11-10 11:36:29
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How would I be a fool for taking vocane ring I don't have a good dark ring and it would open my back piece up to another 5% dt
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 12:03:10
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How would I be a fool for taking vocane ring I don't have a good dark ring and it would open my back piece up to another 5% dt

Go spend 10 minutes in abyssea and obtain a dark ring then.

If you don't understand why it'd be foolish to pick the Vocane ring, nothing said is going to make you realize why.

Pick whatever you want, it is your choice. Just know it's a poor choice.
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By Asura.Loire 2014-11-10 12:17:58
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
How would I be a fool for taking vocane ring I don't have a good dark ring and it would open my back piece up to another 5% dt

Go spend 10 minutes in abyssea and obtain a dark ring then.

If you don't understand why it'd be foolish to pick the Vocane ring, nothing said is going to make you realize why.

Pick whatever you want, it is your choice. Just know it's a poor choice.
Yah bud, ten minutes in abyssea, at least attempt to give a realistic amount. Albeit a bad choice, its the same satva ring argument done over again.
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-11-10 12:24:44
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vocane ring is not a very good choice if you know how to stop yourself from getting knocked back.

It beats dark ring by 1% on all apart from BDT so it may be a good choice for career plds, but then again career plds probbaly have a set that caps everything already, and have a good dark ring. :P

it's not a 10 minutes job, but if you spend 2-3 sessions of decent farming in aby you can probably get a fairly good dark ring unless you have really really bad luck or you don't know how to farm properly (e.g. not doing lights properly and choose a bad camp).
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-11-10 12:42:27
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As someone who has spent months in aby farming 2 hairpins and never even seen a ring with bdt on it aside from on other people I got a good chuckle from the 10 minute comment
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-11-10 12:44:10
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And I dont really play anything but pld rdm thf so its a toss up betwen knockback ring and hitting 1800 dmg on atonement
 
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-11-10 12:45:16
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Also Spira you damn well know my luck lol 277 kirins before I got wlegs
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2014-11-10 12:47:04
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Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
As someone who has spent months in aby farming 2 hairpins and never even seen a ring with bdt on it aside from on other people I got a good chuckle from the 10 minute comment

Now you've seen one!

Ok I get you meant personally.
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