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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-22 23:28:15
Ya got me! I'm somehow trained to think Nausi relies on weak strawmen and projected persecution as arguments. It'll take some deep soul-searching to rid myself of this prejudice welling up inside me.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-22 23:31:28
Ya got me! I'm somehow trained to think Nausi relies on weak strawmen and projected persecution as arguments. It'll take some deep soul-searching to rid myself of this prejudice welling up inside me. When in doubt, use fallacy excuses to deflect any counterarguments.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-22 23:37:19
That whistling noise is my point coming in for its descent about a few thousand feet above your head.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-08-23 01:11:31
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/20/us/albuquerque-police-investigation/
That is the reason people don't trust the police. Read / listen to the entire thing. Note how the police officers involved in wrongful death lawsuits are still on the force and how other members of the force all toe the line about it. And in all those cases the police department "investigated" and determined the death was "justified".
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-23 01:34:36
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/20/us/albuquerque-police-investigation/
That is the reason people don't trust the police. Read / listen to the entire thing. Note how the police officers involved in wrongful death lawsuits are still on the force and how other members of the force all toe the line about it. And in all those cases the police department "investigated" and determined the death was "justified".
But he had two knives and he was homeless! What a dangerous man living in the hills!
They shoot people the same way they would have shot a boar.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-08-23 02:27:09
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/20/us/albuquerque-police-investigation/
That is the reason people don't trust the police. Read / listen to the entire thing. Note how the police officers involved in wrongful death lawsuits are still on the force and how other members of the force all toe the line about it. And in all those cases the police department "investigated" and determined the death was "justified". Or this.
the incident that saw Eugene Mallory shot six times as he was lying in bed
Unfortunately, police cover-ups, coruption, misconduct, and bad judgement is not as rare as it should be.
Also, no statistics are kept on this, so we don't know "offically" how often this happens*. It is recorded by the FBI on how many cops are killed each year while on duty, but unjustified shootings, cover-ups that have been uncovered, and wrongful convictions that are overturned are not tracked.
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*there are several independent organizations who try to keep track of incidents.
By volkom 2014-08-25 13:50:38
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-25 13:57:24
That whistling noise is my point coming in for its descent about a few thousand feet above your head. Sorry, but when do you ever make a point about anything?
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan Which guy?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-25 13:59:14
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan The White House sent 3 aids to the funeral on the taxpayer's dime.
I was reading about it earlier before taking my mom to lunch.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-25 14:02:45
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan On today's episode of Manufactured Outrage...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-25 14:04:03
The only manufacturing job left in America.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-25 14:04:57
That whistling noise is my point coming in for its descent about a few thousand feet above your head. Sorry, but when do you ever make a point about anything?
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan Which guy?
The only general that's been killed in action in a very long time.
Service Honors Military General killed in Afghanistan
And they probably didn't send anyone additional because the man had a full honors military funeral. Which likely means there were more than enough officials in attendance.
Granted sending federal officials to a citizen's funeral is nearly always a publicity ploy, but let's not get too worked up about the "lack of delegation" at the general's funeral.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-25 14:06:57
It's obviously because Obama doesn't care about white people.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-25 14:07:50
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »It's obviously because Obama doesn't care about white people.
Had a friend who died in Afghanistan. Obama didn't personally attend his funeral. He hates Pennsylvanians, whites, reservists, people with moustaches, motorcyclists, and Pittsburgh sports fans.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-25 14:09:20
The only manufacturing job left in America.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-25 14:18:42
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan On today's episode of Manufactured Outrage...
Priorities Pleebo, priorities.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-25 14:19:16
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan On today's episode of Manufactured Outrage...
Priorities Pleebo, priorities. You mean he has priorities besides spewing BS?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-25 14:20:56
I heard the white house sent aids to attend the guy's funeral but didn't send any to that general who died in afghanistan On today's episode of Manufactured Outrage...
Priorities Pleebo, priorities. You mean he has priorities besides spewing BS?
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By fonewear 2014-08-25 14:22:07
Bribe 1000 gold always works for me.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-25 14:23:15
Bribe 1000 gold always works for me.
Gold you surely farmed the time-honored way of anyone who lavishly bribes.
"player.additem f 1000000"
By fonewear 2014-08-25 14:24:17
Dem graphics doe !
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-25 14:24:46
Bribe 1000 gold always works for me.
Gold you surely farmed the time-honored way of anyone who lavishly bribes.
"player.additem f 1000000"
*** that. Xbox Method for the win. Silt Strider to Suran, grab the Sword of White Woe from the Guard tower, strider to Balmora and grab the other one, then spend the next 3 hours bartering with creeper in Caldera.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-25 14:33:23
It's apparently not true either, Hagel was reportedly there. Not that truth matters with faux outrage but still.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-25 14:39:33
and where was obama during the everything?...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-25 14:40:30
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »The only manufacturing job left in America.
Oooh, if there was ever a cartoon I wanted to bang...
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-25 14:41:19
Oooh, if there was ever a cartoon I wanted to bang...
your sexuality is a mystery wrapped in an enigma, isn't it?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-25 14:43:19
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The cycle is now complete.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-25 14:43:34
Oooh, if there was ever a cartoon I wanted to bang...
your sexuality is a mystery wrapped in an enigma, isn't it? That's putting it lightly...
By fonewear 2014-08-25 14:44:37
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »YouTube Video Placeholder
The cycle is now complete.
Bush has a better golf swing therefore the terrorists lose.
By fonewear 2014-08-25 14:45:42
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To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
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The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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