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 Bahamut.Bojack
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2013-08-05 15:03:10
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Anyone notice that on the +1 Skirmish staff with MaB (The one that starts with Leh) it actually has less MaB than the NQ? lol
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By Odin.Godofgods 2013-08-05 15:04:50
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5 points to whoever can tell me what the refresh rate on this is!

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By Quiznor 2013-08-05 15:05:44
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
5 points to whoever can tell me what the refresh rate on this is!


its more than 0mp!
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By Kalila 2013-08-05 15:07:42
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1.5 mp!
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By Bahamut.Sobius 2013-08-05 15:08:36
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+ Skill items are not showing in the status menu under their attack values. Currently says I have 438 sword skill on BLU (Wearing an additional 200+ skill from new items that isn't showing) 438 is my native skill without those items, but includes other skill items like Supponamomimi.

Parrying is displaying correctly, however.



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By Asura.Rekin 2013-08-05 15:09:37
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Fenrir.Lillaly said: »
So i have a question.

I just bought forefront Cesti a few weeks ago...
Are mine going to be changed to these "New" ones? if so do you guys think its going to be better or worse for them?
Essentially everything from adoulin just has been buffed a lot to actually convey the other things a player would get from leveling(such as the weapon skill levels).
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By Einhejar 2013-08-05 15:10:24
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Fenrir.Lillaly said: »
So i have a question.

I just bought forefront Cesti a few weeks ago...
Are mine going to be changed to these "New" ones? if so do you guys think its going to be better or worse for them?

Anything that got stats added this update gets automatically upgraded to the new version.

IIRC Forefront weapons gained some skill on top of the unchanged pre-update versions, so they are better than before.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-05 15:10:44
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Wasnt it said a while back that "weapon skill+" on the new items wasnt calculated the same way,and isnt ACTUAL skill?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-08-05 15:12:35
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Bahamut.Sobius said: »
+ Skill items are not showing in the status menu under their attack values. Currently says I have 438 sword skill on BLU (Wearing an additional 200+ skill from new items that isn't showing) 438 is my native skill without those items, but includes other skill items like Supponamomimi.

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This isn't broken, and has been known since the last update, when the first weapons with skill+ on them were obtained. Offensive skill is not shown and is calculated server side. Defensive skill is shown, however
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By fattrav 2013-08-05 15:13:33
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Can personal coalition rank now go above Advisor?
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By Asura.Rekin 2013-08-05 15:14:10
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Quiznor said: »
Wasnt it said a while back that "weapon skill+" on the new items wasnt calculated the same way,and isnt ACTUAL skill?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole point of the new skill stat was specifically meant to prevent dual wields from "double dipping" if you will in the bonus skill allowing them to gain the skill bonus to both of their weapons. This was done to make it so that the skill would only effect the hand the weapon was held in.

Ex. +150 skill on main hand only effects that one's attacks and a +80 skill on offhand would only effect that one's attacks.
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By Bahamut.Sobius 2013-08-05 15:15:44
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Ah thanks for the replies. Makes sense.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-08-05 15:15:46
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Asura.Rekin said: »
Quiznor said: »
Wasnt it said a while back that "weapon skill+" on the new items wasnt calculated the same way,and isnt ACTUAL skill?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole point of the new skill stat was specifically meant to prevent dual wields from "double dipping" if you will in the bonus skill allowing them to gain the skill bonus to both of their weapons. This was done to make it so that the skill would only effect the hand the weapon was held in.

Ex. +150 skill on main hand only effects that one's attacks and a +80 skill on offhand would only effect that one's attacks.

Precisely. This was covered on the last page, actually.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-08-05 15:17:44
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Nvm beaten ^^
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By Asura.Rekin 2013-08-05 15:19:45
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Ragnarok.Alahra said: »
Asura.Rekin said: »
Quiznor said: »
Wasnt it said a while back that "weapon skill+" on the new items wasnt calculated the same way,and isnt ACTUAL skill?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole point of the new skill stat was specifically meant to prevent dual wields from "double dipping" if you will in the bonus skill allowing them to gain the skill bonus to both of their weapons. This was done to make it so that the skill would only effect the hand the weapon was held in.

Ex. +150 skill on main hand only effects that one's attacks and a +80 skill on offhand would only effect that one's attacks.

Precisely. This was covered on the last page, actually.
And by you no less!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-05 15:36:35
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now here is a new question.

Does the +skill on weapons give att/acc+ like regular equipment does, or does it only add att to it, since you can see the attack increase by equiping the weapon?
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By Sylph.Futan 2013-08-05 15:40:41
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Adds to both. Hence why the new WKRs are so evasive.

Sorry if mentioned already but anyone notice a difference w/ Utsusemi? Just killing mobs in Ceizak. Mantis, Chapulis and Butterflies TP moves seem unaffected.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-08-05 15:41:39
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Sylph.Futan said: »
Adds to both. Hence why the new WKRs are so evasive.

Sorry if mentioned already but anyone notice a difference w/ Utsusemi? Just killing mobs in Ceizak. Mantis, Chapulis and Butterflies TP moves seem unaffected.

Ninja main?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-08-05 15:45:22
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Sylph.Futan said: »
Adds to both. Hence why the new WKRs are so evasive.

Sorry if mentioned already but anyone notice a difference w/ Utsusemi? Just killing mobs in Ceizak. Mantis, Chapulis and Butterflies TP moves seem unaffected.

Only works if NIN is your main job, not subjob. And you need an item in the main hand slot with skill+ on it
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-08-05 15:45:40
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Sylph.Futan said: »
Adds to both. Hence why the new WKRs are so evasive.

Sorry if mentioned already but anyone notice a difference w/ Utsusemi? Just killing mobs in Ceizak. Mantis, Chapulis and Butterflies TP moves seem unaffected.

Oh, I forgot about that. I guess I'll have to gear up and go test that out for a bit. But for now I need to finish capping Great Katana...ugh.
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By Sylph.Futan 2013-08-05 15:56:34
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NIN is main, and Pamun main hand. ;x
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By Ifrit.Domfrancisco 2013-08-05 15:59:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Does the +skill on weapons give att/acc+ like regular equipment does, or does it only add att to it, since you can see the attack increase by equiping the weapon?
When have you ever been able to see an ACC stat anywhere in the game?
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-08-05 16:02:10
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
now here is a new question.

Does the +skill on weapons give att/acc+ like regular equipment does, or does it only add att to it, since you can see the attack increase by equiping the weapon?

Yes, it does give ACC.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-05 16:07:23
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The new WKRs are no more evasive than regular delve NMs. I had capped accuracy on RNG with sushi vs. hurkan. Should be able to eat RCB now.
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By Darkforce 2013-08-05 16:23:11
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Hello~
First-time poster, long-time viewer.

Did SE change/buff the "Magic Damage+" stat in this August update like Matsui said they were going to? I haven't found any information on this in the update notes, forum posts, or anything else yet. Nor has anyone said anything about it from what I've seen.

Original post from Slycer's notes in the Dev Tracker findings:

"Good evening, it's Matsui.

I'm going to make some replies to a number of questions and comments we received about yesterday's post.

Player Question:Regarding the magic damage effect, you didn't mention the exact timing, but it would be good if you could do it during the 8/6 version update. I hope it's not going to be 3 years later (´・ω・`)

Dev Answer:Since we are doing the development work aiming towards the 8/6 version update, there should be no problem with this."

From:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112776-Dev-Tracker-Findings-Posts-(NO-DISCUSSION)/page15

Thanks for any good info/response~
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By Kalila 2013-08-05 16:53:18
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Kalila said: »
Let's not start the R/M/E discussion please, find a different thread for it. SE has already made it clear that they will not update the weapons until after the major weapon updates. Leave it out of this thread, they'll be updated soon enough but now's not that time.
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