Finally got to take BST/NIN out again to VW. Doing Pil atm. Unbuffed, Ruinator is hitting 2k easily. I get the odd 2.4k hit in, but fully buffed, I'm averaging 2.8k. My highest spikes were 3.1k and 3.3k. I have the screenshots saved, and will upload if anyone thinks I'm BSing.
I approve. Sadly, I'm not being parsed, but right now a few Ukon WARs are feeling silly. Good enough for me. :) If I can somehow manage to take BST to something like Ig Alima, it would do better for comparison.
BST: Ruinator
BST: Ruinator
phunky said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Ragnarok.Crunkie said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Ragnarok.Crunkie said: »
Thanks for some words, looks like I'll have to be throwing down 5mil for a BST WS piece. But I do thoroughly enjoy playing the job. As far as I've read on BG and here, for all the new merit-able weapon skills elemental gorget/belt is the way to go since it gives .1 fTP to each hit or some fancy ***like that.(Idk tbh I'm not that hardcore) Also was wondering would moonshade with atk/tp bonus be > cent earring. I don't have WoTG done atm, but plan to here soon. And would a STR ring like Pyrosoul or Strigoi > Raja's. I'm looking for the ideal, full WS damage set.
I'm doing sandy path atm but I'm more than happy to come back to whatever quest you're on to catch you up faster (although I solo'ed to where I'm at now). I figure as bst/bst or whatever we should be able to get right to the end with minimal effort.
On bst topic:
Do sphere effects affect pets?
im quite curious about if sphere effect works on pet or not?
Phoenix.Wackatramp said: »
Finally got to take BST/NIN out again to VW. Doing Pil atm. Unbuffed, Ruinator is hitting 2k easily. I get the odd 2.4k hit in, but fully buffed, I'm averaging 2.8k. My highest spikes were 3.1k and 3.3k. I have the screenshots saved, and will upload if anyone thinks I'm BSing.
I approve. Sadly, I'm not being parsed, but right now a few Ukon WARs are feeling silly. Good enough for me. :) If I can somehow manage to take BST to something like Ig Alima, it would do better for comparison.
I approve. Sadly, I'm not being parsed, but right now a few Ukon WARs are feeling silly. Good enough for me. :) If I can somehow manage to take BST to something like Ig Alima, it would do better for comparison.
I guess it might be worth pointing out that WAR is capable of using Ruinator too.o. well, or that any Ukon WAR jealous of a 2k WS doesn't deserve the weapon. xD
Also, a 99 STR/Atk Axe is better (in every way except Reward) than a level 90 Farsha. It has 1 more STR and 22 more Attack, but everything else the same. I intend to go STR/ATK + DA Axe so I can use it both on BST and WAR.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I guess it might be worth pointing out that WAR is capable of using Ruinator too.o. well, or that any Ukon WAR jealous of a 2k WS doesn't deserve the weapon. xD
Also, a 99 STR/Atk Axe is better (in every way except Reward) than a level 90 Farsha. It has 1 more STR and 22 more Attack, but everything else the same. I intend to go STR/ATK + DA Axe so I can use it both on BST and WAR.
Also, a 99 STR/Atk Axe is better (in every way except Reward) than a level 90 Farsha. It has 1 more STR and 22 more Attack, but everything else the same. I intend to go STR/ATK + DA Axe so I can use it both on BST and WAR.
my str axe is stuck at 90 cuz I can't get flame geodes!! (really they disappear too fast from ah even though prices are high!)
should finally upgrade by da axe to ganelon today.. only need 25 riftsand... but its a good way to go.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Phoenix.Wackatramp said: »
Finally got to take BST/NIN out again to VW. Doing Pil atm. Unbuffed, Ruinator is hitting 2k easily. I get the odd 2.4k hit in, but fully buffed, I'm averaging 2.8k. My highest spikes were 3.1k and 3.3k. I have the screenshots saved, and will upload if anyone thinks I'm BSing.
I approve. Sadly, I'm not being parsed, but right now a few Ukon WARs are feeling silly. Good enough for me. :) If I can somehow manage to take BST to something like Ig Alima, it would do better for comparison.
I approve. Sadly, I'm not being parsed, but right now a few Ukon WARs are feeling silly. Good enough for me. :) If I can somehow manage to take BST to something like Ig Alima, it would do better for comparison.
I guess it might be worth pointing out that WAR is capable of using Ruinator too.o. well, or that any Ukon WAR jealous of a 2k WS doesn't deserve the weapon. xD
Also, a 99 STR/Atk Axe is better (in every way except Reward) than a level 90 Farsha. It has 1 more STR and 22 more Attack, but everything else the same. I intend to go STR/ATK + DA Axe so I can use it both on BST and WAR.
Indeed WAR can. I don't have Ukon myself. Ruinator is the route I'll be taking. Although, a DA offhand axe for WAR, seems a bit much. Maybe something along the lines of Ridill instead? Not sure, different thread anyways.
All I can say right now is I hate Panzer Perceval so much....
Screenshots please, not just one.
Phoenix.Wackatramp said: »
Indeed WAR can. I don't have Ukon myself. Ruinator is the route I'll be taking. Although, a DA offhand axe for WAR, seems a bit much. Maybe something along the lines of Ridill instead? Not sure, different thread anyways.
All I can say right now is I hate Panzer Perceval so much....
All I can say right now is I hate Panzer Perceval so much....
There are 2 points to the DA axe for Ruinator which offhand Ridill would not account for at all.
First, it (78 Damage) actually has higher damage than the level 99 Astolfo (74 damage). So it probably would be the main hand, not offhand.
Second, 11% double attack on Ganelon is going to improve the multihit for Ruinator (whether its mainhand or offhand). I'm pretty sure Ridill will not affect it. So the only point to Ridill is tp building, while the DA Ganelon has alot more going for it.
Patters53 said: »
Screenshots please, not just one.
Sorry. These came off my iPhone. Its not exactly a compilation of a few runs either. It was a one run where i was allowed to go BST. Id like to do things like Ig or Ocy, but yeah, the BST situation is worse now due to dyna. Even asking to go BST in a shout is LOL:/
Im happy with these though. And i didnt realize the final DA axe was higher bast damage. Id like to run on BST again once i finish that axe with new numbers.
hmmm now I'm wondering if you get more str in your ruinator build than I do...
I'm always wondering if i want more str vs my multihit...
I've not much work into fine tuning my ruinator set, but you are a bit higher in your averages. I would say i probably average 2200 on ruinators.
I hit 3k's but I've not fought Pil... I don't really know what his def is like. I know I've done over 2k on VT mobs...
anyway the tradeoff's I'm seeing (mostly from existing equipment between potentially new equipment) is STR vs mutlihit.
kinda like the DA vs STR Astolfo axes but values will be quite different.
Here is what I have. I"m wondering which pieces to switch for STR. any thoughts?
I'm always wondering if i want more str vs my multihit...
I've not much work into fine tuning my ruinator set, but you are a bit higher in your averages. I would say i probably average 2200 on ruinators.
I hit 3k's but I've not fought Pil... I don't really know what his def is like. I know I've done over 2k on VT mobs...
anyway the tradeoff's I'm seeing (mostly from existing equipment between potentially new equipment) is STR vs mutlihit.
kinda like the DA vs STR Astolfo axes but values will be quite different.
Here is what I have. I"m wondering which pieces to switch for STR. any thoughts?
Xilk said: »
Here is what I have. I"m wondering which pieces to switch for STR. any thoughts?
I dont have the +2 head yet so I can't test myself. +2 emp body and +2 relic head seem like the best option for fighting something that you have killer effects to. "seems." Don't have. Can't test yet. For me:
I use W/killer effects: oto +1 and gausape +2
i use W/o killer effects: oto +1, avant +1.
Budget recommendation: twilight helm, NQ oto. At the very least, gausape +2, avant, twilight body
For body also, a well augmented Adaberk, Tocis Harness, Faz.Radiant mail, would also fit well.
I'd swap rajas for stirgoi and when you get the cash, swap cent. earring for Vulcans pearl (currently the only piece I need to get). Other than that, you could opt for d.sollerets off Pil. 8 STR 16 Att vs 7 STR DA3%. When I do finish my DA axe, I'll have 31% DA with D.sollerets compared to 34% with af2. At that point, I'd stick with sollerets.
Quick edit: I've also tried to see if Cerb Mantle +1 could replace Atheling in some situations. With my DA build right now, I couldn't afford to lose the 3% DA. Later on down the road, we'll see.
Killer effects+5 would be a 2.5% damage bonus with Ferine Gausape +2, stacked additively with your existing bonus. That will not be better than Twilight Helm in uncapped attack situations, nevermind Mekira-oto (+1), and I'd bet it still loses even if you assume attack is capped.
Yeah, I used my gausape for ruinator, and gausape + monster helm +2 wins out for PR.
I've just not taken close look at differences for ruinator between killer effect approach vs str/att/acc for body/helm.
I agree on the spiral ring and vulcan's pearl, that's pretty easy. what sticks out in making these comparisons is that you get alot more bonus from STR on ruinator than you do w/ other WS's.
pearl will take some cash.
also, I have killer effects merits... so I would get a solid +10% using gausape & helm.
I've just not taken close look at differences for ruinator between killer effect approach vs str/att/acc for body/helm.
I agree on the spiral ring and vulcan's pearl, that's pretty easy. what sticks out in making these comparisons is that you get alot more bonus from STR on ruinator than you do w/ other WS's.
pearl will take some cash.
also, I have killer effects merits... so I would get a solid +10% using gausape & helm.
does anyone have the list that someone posted on what pet could solo what nm? cant find that anywhere swear i had saved it.
THANKS!
THANKS!
New top body piece!
Phorcys Korazin
Lvl 99
DEF:70 STR+16 Attack+5%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+7
Increases weapon skill damage
Set: Increases STR, VIT, INT, MND
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
Phorcys Korazin
Lvl 99
DEF:70 STR+16 Attack+5%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+7
Increases weapon skill damage
Set: Increases STR, VIT, INT, MND
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
good luck with that
you just need to get to floor 100 of the new nyzul ilse, kill whatever is up there, hope its the body that drops, and that you outlot the rest of the party.
... good luck, so far getting to 100 is a low stakes game by itself
... good luck, so far getting to 100 is a low stakes game by itself
Bahamut.Darkone said: »
New top body piece!
Phorcys Korazin
Lvl 99
DEF:70 STR+16 Attack+5%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+7
Increases weapon skill damage
Set: Increases STR, VIT, INT, MND
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
Phorcys Korazin
Lvl 99
DEF:70 STR+16 Attack+5%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+7
Increases weapon skill damage
Set: Increases STR, VIT, INT, MND
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
WTF
The best part is that this body used to have 15% crit dmg and 15% double attack dmg instead.
SE trolling again... they want us to use it for cloudsplitter...
well even the +2 is
Rheic Korazin +2
Lvl 99
DEF:69 STR+12 Attack+3%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+3
Increases weapon skill damage
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
What will be interesting is the increases weaponskill damage %
Rheic Korazin +2
Lvl 99
DEF:69 STR+12 Attack+3%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+3
Increases weapon skill damage
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
What will be interesting is the increases weaponskill damage %
Xilk said: »
SE trolling again... they want us to use it for cloudsplitter...
Just need +43 more and you'll average maybe 2k with it outside of abyssea!
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Current set. Would Avant +1 > Ogier's? Ferine +2 > Toci? 2nd flame pearl > brutal?
Figured the 3% ws damage and nice attack on Ogier's would win because Ruinator's attack boost. Not so sure about the killer effects beating toci however.
Considering Ruinator is a STR Modded WS @ 100% or w/e at 5/5 Avant would do better i believe.
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Against Fodder and DCs: Avant Cuisses+1, Toci's Harness and Brutal Earring win.
Versus harder mobs, Ogier's Breeches and a second STR earring gain the lead. If you have Killer Effect advantage, such as versus Qilin, Ferine Gausape+2 will beat Toci's with that setup.
Versus harder mobs, Ogier's Breeches and a second STR earring gain the lead. If you have Killer Effect advantage, such as versus Qilin, Ferine Gausape+2 will beat Toci's with that setup.
Bahamut.Darkone said: »
well even the +2 is
Rheic Korazin +2
Lvl 99
DEF:69 STR+12 Attack+3%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+3
Increases weapon skill damage
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
What will be interesting is the increases weaponskill damage %
Rheic Korazin +2
Lvl 99
DEF:69 STR+12 Attack+3%
"Magic Attack Bonus"+3
Increases weapon skill damage
WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
What will be interesting is the increases weaponskill damage %
Our group managed to get our hands on a +3 version, and it was +5% damage increase, tested with Spirits Within.
-1 str and DA +3 vs. +1 str and attack +16
W/o parse or anything I would think DA would win over time but for 1-2 WS then attack would win.
Edit: - str and +str are just what made sense to me, I can read obviously, str +7 and +8, just how I worded it.
W/o parse or anything I would think DA would win over time but for 1-2 WS then attack would win.
Edit: - str and +str are just what made sense to me, I can read obviously, str +7 and +8, just how I worded it.
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