Does Ffxi Suck Now?

Then you admit the game had challenge, you seem to toss around your opinion as fact by stating FFXI was easy mode 24/7. There were still challenges and they were a lot more frequent than today. I was just using the w leg logic the same as you used the "why if the game is so easy aren't you maxed out on every job". Can apply the same logic to your w legs, "why if the game was so easy didn't you solo all the fodder NMs, pop gods with bare min and shout zerg Kirin down and lock legs."

I did solo all of the fodder NMs and pop gods with bare minimum. I just wasn't desperate enough for Wlegs to stomach pickups.

I don't think old FFXI is significantly more challenging than new FFXI - just far more of a timesink. My comment on being maxed on gear was moreso against those who claim new FFXI is stupidly easy, when the people yearning for the old days tend to either suck, be one of those diehard HNM enthusiasts, or long to throw bodies at things.

Only a few individual fights in FFXI are particularly difficult.

Vrtra? stupid thing is stupid
And no Dasva no legs of W for you D:

AGREED!
Dasva is not worthy of w.legs.

Vrtra is pretty gay yeah. Lowman Rani can be lame without brew, Shinryu can be lame if he decides to use certain TP moves (hi2u Cataclysmic Vortex), etc.

Raen helped me get mine!! Cat luck to the rescue!!

Maybe i should get another pair so i has nq xD

Lol (well and to make Dasva jealous)

We're having bad luck on Wlegs atm :( been like 3 pops since last dorp.

This would be interesting if it was outside abyssea with no atma help. Separate those with skill from those who just key whored.

Did you see that Slay went 1/1 on wlegs...the luck that dude has is off the charts.

Seems allot of people are writing the game off before they even complete what it is they are trying to accomplish with FFXI. Last time I checked we are suppose to go from 75~99... and even when that first began people was talking all that jazz about "OMG IM NOT GONNA XP ALL THE WAY TO 99!!!! I'm quitting this game this is stupid" now they give people a much more time conserving way to do things and also balance the game out a bit, and now it's like giving SE the benefit of the doubt is a crime even though they gave the "lessers" the ability to feel like one of the "elites". Idk I can only speak for myself when I say I think they will really come threw in the end. You guys should try to wait and see instead of finding something to complain about from day to day.

I key ***'d plenty and I have plenty of "skill" are you telling me that if you key ***'d it automatically makes you a bad player?

Because wacking the same mob over and over again creates this skill?

Because afking for the whole pt near the dominion ops dude creates skill?

Shitty players will always be shitty regaurdless of how they lvl'd and the same goes for good players.

1) I didn't like it when they adjusted CoP missions down (the first time) so that people who complained those were too hard to complete could finish them.

2) I didn't like it too much when they decreased the amount of xp needed (past 60 iirc) to level because people complained it was too hard.

3) I did like level sync because that gave some options when camps sucked at certain levels....I didn't like people level syncing for 50 levels but you can always kick asshats/leaches from your parties.

1 and 2 I didn't like because there were no tangible rewards for having completed/leveled the "hard" way. But guess what, there is no tangible rewards for a video game. Play the game to have fun. If you aren't having fun don't play the game.

If SE has shown us anything over the past years it's that they will make adjustments to the game. Whether you will like those or not, well they don't cater to "you" they cater to the majority. They will probably add something more "hnm" because people have been asking about it....or making threads about it.

the japs already beat them, look it up on their wikis.

I still haven't worked out why people want them to add things to the game which reduce the time you spend playing the game (ie HNM).

:'(. Well I guess some day I'll be able to solo it...

because they have other things to do, like digest the food they ate while fighting the HNMs

Because waiting 30min~1hour is what builds skill in this game..Raen how did you not know this.

I use to love HNM the thrill of claim/killing was something that I looked forward too. However now that I don't do it anymore, I am not excited to do it again. I seriously hope they come up with a new way to do HNM..the old way needs to stay old and dead.

I'll have to disagree with you there. My fast reflexes and precise aiming more than make up for people using strategy (camping, 'cheater' weapons, etc) and most weeks I stay ranked in the top 1000 in the world. If I were to employ any of these tactics as opposed to running around like a madman at full speed, I would gain some k/d ratio, but move up in the ranks marginally.

The two (skill and knowledge) are separate entities of which are both relevant; and, depending on 1) the task at hand 2) the presence (or lack-thereof) of each, are weighted accordingly.

Is this a serious question? Maybe because FFXI is designed to be a time-sink more so than other MMOs out there and at times it can be pretty ridiculous, especially the older content.

I think he meant the amount of time you spent waiting around for hnm's to pop, you weren't actually playing the game during those times. HNM: Window OPEN > window closed = afk until next window.

Camping isn't a strategy. Well, not a very good one unless in some objective based gamemodes and even then it's pretty mediocre. It's all about angle/timing of attacks, feints/decoys, etc.

How is that any different from Abyssea besides brews?

People got rocked all over the place by Ironclads early on, the first few Glavoids were zombie fests, I still see people wipe to Rani/Apademak/Azdaja on a regular basis. ***, I saw a WHM/MNK/NIN fail zombie the Tiger King Hide nm yesterday and an Orthrus despawn. Aside from brewing, terrible people are still terrible, average people are just a little better off.

The mobs aren't hard for the people who know the strats and have basic play skills now, but then again neither were Kirin, Fafnir, or Cerberus. Bad groups threw bodies at them, better groups had bodies around to throw because they were forced to bring them for claims. IMO that's not challenge or enjoyment, it's a waste of people's time. What I hated most about HNMs was wasting hours for people who aren't even needed for the kill, just because you need warm bodies to claim.

Sure you can low man almost all the Abyssea stuff now, but you could lowman most content at 75 as well. Limbus, Sky, Sea, VNM, ZNM, HNMs, and Dyna cities could be done with a single skilled party. Didn't Draylo solo a portion of his Salvage gear?

Abyssea is highly flawed, but it's nonsense to pretend that the old way wasn't also easy, just with more annoyance. New content should not be a step backwards to systems that pretty much everyone hated at the time.

Make new Abyssea style content, keep the mob difficulty tree and gear drops consistent. Drop visitant, atma, cruor buffs and brews. Add a FULLY INSTANCED Ein/Salvage/Limbus style battlefield. Add world roam HNMs with shared drops to the battlefield. That's something for everyone, and the girls can stop crying.

I TELL YA WUT DANG OLE DIGGITY I STILL NEEDS MAH DAM KAZ KEYS YO! HOWS YA'LL GUNNA HALPS POOR OLE GALKERS LIKE MAYSELFERS WHEN YALL PLAYIN IN ABISEES O_______________O

Why thank you. :)

Did you HQ or NQ?

Blue + Yellow on Hedjedjet.

Thunder Belt. Cerberus Claw.
No Staff. No +2 items. FML



I dont think FFXI sucks, just the systems need fine tuning >.>

Did you have TH

Yeah, did it on THF.