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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 12:45:06
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fonewear said: »
The only conflicts I see are why you care so much about Trump ?

I didn't until a bunch of people got fooled into thinking he was the best thing for this country!

I was content to sit and let him be orange and act bombastic on network television that I never watched.
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By fonewear 2016-12-09 12:45:22
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Little advice: care less drink more it will make you a better person.
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By fonewear 2016-12-09 12:47:00
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This is America that is reason enough to be happy.You could be in a lot worse situation Syria or some other loser country. So I'd consider most of us very fortunate.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 12:50:05
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fonewear said: »
This is America that is reason enough to be happy.You could be in a lot worse situation Syria or some other loser country. So I'd consider most of us very fortunate.

Yes I've thought of that.

It's why I'm just talking about this here to kill time instead of digging a shelter in my back yard.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-09 12:51:14
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fonewear said: »
This is America that is reason enough to be happy.You could be in a lot worse situation Syria or some other loser country. So I'd consider most of us very fortunate.

It's apparently a good enough country that we can't even get celebrities to move to freaking Canada when they promised to. I think Syria would blow their Hollywood minds. Do you know how hard it is to get good caviar in Syria?
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-09 12:52:23
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
What is an alt-left supposed to be now? The left has always been comprised of social-democrats, socialists, communists and radicals(the hippies lol).

Militant Feminists, Militant Environmentalists, Militant Socialists (TAKE ALL THE RICH PEOPLES MONEY!!!), pretty much any extremest who takes an absolute view on a political subject without any room for actual compromise.
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By fonewear 2016-12-09 12:53:49
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All these extreme people we talk about I have yet to meet any of them in real life.

I don't talk to alt right or alt left people. I would say outside of a few websites. The actual population of said people is small.
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By fonewear 2016-12-09 12:56:08
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Not to go all Lordgrim but I trust in the way America is set from the start. That we won't turn into North Korea and if we do Canada isn't that hard to get into.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 12:58:58
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It's apparently a good enough country that we can't even get celebrities to move to freaking Canada when they promised to. I think Syria would blow their Hollywood minds. Do you know how hard it is to get good caviar in Syria?

I dunno. All the Russians in Syria now, and with the Russian love of caviar?

I'm willing to be it's easier than you think!
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 13:00:44
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fonewear said: »
All these extreme people we talk about I have yet to meet any of them in real life.

I don't talk to alt right or alt left people. I would say outside of a few websites. The actual population of said people is small.

I run into the alt right folks from time to time. I've known and had to distance myself from a couple alt left people too, actually. I had some in my circle of friends in college who were in the "friends of friends" category and they were really, really hard to be around sometimes.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-12-09 13:02:51
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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If you all are so freaking concerned about conflicts of interest, you have about a bajillion donors, lobbyists, and special interest groups with ties to politicians around the country that you should be plowing through before you ever get to Trump and his family business.
Says the guy who botched constantly about Clinton and her foundation... lol... such a hypocrite...

Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Name-calling from Flavin. What a surprise.

Yes, and they've been under investigation for it. TRUMP HASN'T DONE ANYTHING YET. When he actually does something that is a clear conflict of interest, we'll talk.
If hypocrite is name calling time now alwouldnt that make you the king then? I like your guys approach though.. don't worry about it until it's already a problem lol...

I use the term on rare occasions. But since you make caricatures out of everyone you wouldn't be able to see that. I guess when you almost can't make a post without finding a way to insult someone, you gotta scrape the bottom of that barrel. Btw, how about all those supposed occasions where I've used the word "triggered" sooooooo much? Any luck in finding those, or can I just assume you never have a clue what you're talking about?
Man... you're still hung up on that triggered thing? I wonder what all these caricatures of people I make are... hmmmm... I'll just wait for you to ignore that majority of my posts and then try to call me out for something like name calling on any little thing you can then plus posts when KN calls me a troll... lol... you so silly rav...
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-09 13:10:51
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fonewear said: »
All these extreme people we talk about I have yet to meet any of them in real life.

I don't talk to alt right or alt left people. I would say outside of a few websites. The actual population of said people is small.

I've met both and liked neither. I'm a practical person and that means real compromise and accepting a middle ground with ones opposition, extremists are far to dedicated to no compromises on their positions.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-09 13:27:08
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If you all are so freaking concerned about conflicts of interest, you have about a bajillion donors, lobbyists, and special interest groups with ties to politicians around the country that you should be plowing through before you ever get to Trump and his family business.
Says the guy who botched constantly about Clinton and her foundation... lol... such a hypocrite...
Apples and oranges
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 13:27:40
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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If you all are so freaking concerned about conflicts of interest, you have about a bajillion donors, lobbyists, and special interest groups with ties to politicians around the country that you should be plowing through before you ever get to Trump and his family business.
Says the guy who botched constantly about Clinton and her foundation... lol... such a hypocrite...
Corrupt Apples and malignant oranges
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-09 13:28:05
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Alpha male bro
So *** no. A bully does not an alpha make.
Trumps the bully and Hillary's the victim? I think you have that backwards.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-09 13:29:27
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I haven't mentioned Clinton. I think you have that madeup.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-09 13:30:37
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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If you all are so freaking concerned about conflicts of interest, you have about a bajillion donors, lobbyists, and special interest groups with ties to politicians around the country that you should be plowing through before you ever get to Trump and his family business.
Says the guy who botched constantly about Clinton and her foundation... lol... such a hypocrite...
Corrupt Apples and malignant oranges
Clinton was engaged in outright bribery. Trump never dealt in corruption.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-09 13:33:55
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War Update:

Syrian forces are now in control of 93% of the city of Aleppo according to Russia, over 10,000 rebels have fled and are being allowed to live for surrendering, however the government is still pushing until the entire city is routed.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-09 13:35:35
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Trump never dealt in corruption.

AHAHAHAHAHA.

Trump's history is every bit as shady as Clinton's in the category of being shamelessly self-serving.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-09 13:39:43
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Trump never dealt in corruption.

AHAHAHAHAHA.

Trump's history is every bit as shady as Clinton's in the category of being shamelessly self-serving.
So we're going to compare Trump's crap to Hillary's steal of the Haitian relief money? Considering there's a press blackout in Haiti and people who go to Haiti are reporting the state of the country is worse than before. Not only that, but the woman investigating the Clinton Foundation's conduct in Haiti also turned up dead.

I don't listen to InfoWars but I do pay attention to videos, and what I saw was not a rebuilt country, but a country floundering and dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm27MDUx7as
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-09 13:42:40
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This "Ok, Trump did wrong but Clinton did wronger." ***is stupid and you are all stupid for continuing it. Both have pulled some ***, everyone's candidate was ***and we all lose no matter what.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-09 13:44:31
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This "Ok, Trump did wrong but Clinton did wronger." ***is stupid and you are all stupid for continuing it. Both have pulled some ***, everyone's candidate was ***and we all lose no matter what.
The problem is that Hillary's wrongdoing is costing people their lives and wellbeing, and yet people are focusing solely on the ***talking that Trump did.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-09 13:49:22
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This "Ok, Trump did wrong but Clinton did wronger." ***is stupid and you are all stupid for continuing it. Both have pulled some ***, everyone's candidate was ***and we all lose no matter what.
The problem is that Hillary's wrongdoing is costing people their lives and wellbeing, and yet people are focusing solely on the ***talking that Trump did.
It's not WHAT each of them did, both do stupid, shady stuff. Being focused on is part of being what Trump is now; the President.

It's just annoying every time someone brings up Trump, someone brings up ***Trump has done which is met with "But-but Hillary once punched a puppy when she was 3 and that puppy's name? Benghazi, btw remember Benghazi? I was reading an email someone sent me from Benghazi, btw remember Hillary's emails?"

I don't even think half the people talking about these things truly give a ***about them.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-09 13:49:38
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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This "Ok, Trump did wrong but Clinton did wronger." ***is stupid and you are all stupid for continuing it. Both have pulled some ***, everyone's candidate was ***and we all lose no matter what.
The problem is that Hillary's wrongdoing is costing people their lives and wellbeing, and yet people are focusing solely on the ***talking that Trump did.

Hillary is not relevant anymore, Trump is the president elect. Nobody cares about Hillary.
Basically.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-09 13:54:02
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This "Ok, Trump did wrong but Clinton did wronger." ***is stupid and you are all stupid for continuing it. Both have pulled some ***, everyone's candidate was ***and we all lose no matter what.
The problem is that Hillary's wrongdoing is costing people their lives and wellbeing, and yet people are focusing solely on the ***talking that Trump did.

Hillary is not relevant anymore, Trump is the president elect. Nobody cares about Hillary.
No, you don't understand. Just because she lost, doesn't mean she shouldn't answer for her crimes. FBI stated that over 5 foreign countries hacked her private server at 99% certainty that this happened, meaning she basically gave 5 countries classified information. Now I'm not a legal expert, but that's something you indict the ***out of someone for.

But the main thing I'm trying to stress: Someone needs to just launch a *** investigation on her, because the FBI is stating 99% certainty that she did this.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/breaking-fbi-now-99-certain-least-5-foreign-services-hacked-hillarys-server/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47XG_r0gUF8
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-09 13:57:06
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Election Update:

Michigan is passing a bill that'll be taking effect retroactively January of 2016 that'll confiscate Jill Stein's money she raised to cover the cost of the recount in Michigan. Michigan will more than likely also be requiring an ID from now on to be able to vote in future elections, and a change of law that if candidates who lost by 5% of the vote will be forced to pay the entire recount cost so that the taxpayers don't get stuck with the bill.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-09 13:58:31
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I haven't bitched here in awhile, I felt it was time.

Seriously though, Trump will be President soon; to half of the discussion I'd say it's time to accept it and enjoy the ride, to the other half I say that this is Trump's thing now more than it has been, he will be criticized by the media, the American people, and the world. It comes with being the POTUS.

So yes, Hillary is pretty much as relevant as that car salesman in...I dunno, pick a town. Muncie, IN. That car salesman in Muncie, IN who's pushing that 02 Chevy on you knowing it has a blown head gasket and faulty brake lines and asking twice what it's worth. That's about how significant she is now.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-09 14:00:32
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Yatenkou said: »
Just because she lost, doesn't mean she shouldn't answer for her crimes.
I agree, if she comes here I'll ban her.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-09 14:01:00
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Yatenkou said: »
FBI stated that over 5 foreign countries hacked her private server at 99% certainty that this happened, meaning she basically gave 5 countries classified information.

NO

Under the logic you are communicating; If I steal from you it is not theft but in fact you giving to me. That's not how it works.
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