Random Politics & Religion #05

The "compromises" people are thinking about are those made from Democrats to other Democrats to buy their votes. There were several provisions, addons and exceptions thrown in near the end to ensure they had every Democrat vote in order to get it passed during the very narrow window they had a super majority.

Now some of the original language was bipartisan as a result of the original committee having both Republicans and Democrats but as that process broke down and both sides positions became irreconcilable the Democrats just added whatever they wanted.

Look at those italicized bits again. There is a correlation.

If you care about any issues at all you have to vote. Yeah, the boring down ticket and off year stuff too. Because they all start somewhere, sometimes as low as the school board level.

And worse than that you have got to at least try to be an educated voter.

Our not voting defines us more than our voting. Interesting statistic; of the eligible electorate, and this does include the eligible but unregistered, only %18 voted for Ronald Reagan in the "Reagan landslide".

Nonsense. Only the left side would look like that.

The right side would start with a tasteful NRA life member sticker in the corner of the rear window and devolve from there.

I am sure you can find a car for the right half Fone.

What a waste of a perfectly good car.

I vote in local elections, even ones where my candidate has no chance. I don't vote the Presidential part of the ticket out of principle.

I live in Ohio this year, so I'll absolutely be voting Presidential, and am now accepting bribes for my battleground state vote. Bribe early, bribe often.

There's a Canadian joke hidden in there somewhere.

Just got to syrup-mine it out of there....

No, this is not how it works, this is not proof of anything, you have always tried to argue this and it always fails. You didn't prove anything, so don't try to claim you did. Bush doesn't get credit for the 2001 surplus despite him taking office in 2001. He had nothing to do with it. And when Congress spent 2008 passing CRs until Bush left office, its still Bush's deficit. Congress is going to pass a CR this year, and Obama is going to sign it, 2017 is his year, he probably won't sign the budget for 2017, but its still his year. Forever. 2018 will be the first year the next President gets credit for.

Damn, spend all day changing brakes, calipers, and rotors, and I miss the most interesting debate since we left the original RP&R..

Somebody hasn't been paying attention...

Fiscal years, how do they work? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Polishing up the Obama presidency is sorta like polishing up a turd. No matter how hard people try, he will go down as one of the worst presidents in history.

I mean at least Carter de-regulated home brewing....

They will never admit was a complete failure he has been and that he is the most ineffective leader that the World has seen in a hundred years. Look at his second term. He has done absolutely nothing besides droning countries in the Middle East. He didn't even attempt any domestic policy or to find common ground in a divided government of a diverse population.

What a hilarious comment to wake up to, always good for a laugh Aman.

Not to mention at least a trees worth of bumper stickers.

Again, how it's supposed to work and how it did are two different things.

If Bush signed the FY2009 budget that was submitted by the House in 2008, then you would have a point. However, he did not.

Obama had the budget for a while before he signed it. He could have signed it immediately when it was presented to him, but he did not. Why? Because he wanted a few changes made to the budget. The proposed budget submitted by Bush and the final draft signed by Obama are 2 completely different things.

Stop deflecting blame away from Obama. This is his budget he drafted from Bush's budget. Get over it, this is reality, this is what happened in 2009. The budget deficit of 2009 is Obama's blame, not Bush's.

A tree? No, this isn't even a 2x4 worth of wood used.

Bumper stickers are disgusting atrocities against good sense and taste. A vulgarity churned up from the mouth of modernity. Defacing your car with political statements is akin to punching a pregnant woman.

Instead I urge you and all my fellow Americans to use your *** turn signals and do not swerve two lanes across because you were too busy drooling at the wheel to know you needed to exit the interstate well ahead of time.


Now if you excuse me, I have a liberal woodie wagon to take into the shop.

The presidents submits a budget request to Congress each February for the coming fiscal year which starts in October.

Bush submitted a budget for FY 2009 in February of 2008.

Then the House and Senate pass budget resolutions.

The House and Senate subcommittees then markup appropriations bills.

Then the House and Senate vote on appropriations bills and reconcile differences.

The President then signs each appropriations bill and the budget becomes law.



You're saying that in the span of just a little over a month Obama affected that FY's budget.

Now that's all *** because Obama wasn't President until January 20th 2009 and signed it in March that year. Argument falls flat. Because you are absolving Congress from the process and placing the blame solely on one individual who simply signed the bills that submitted by the previous president and voted on by the 110th Congress.

It would be really nice if you knew how things really worked instead of pretending like you do.

I'll see your gun and raise you this:

Jerry Miculek is/was running a giveaway for this gun.

You are welcome:

Sparth for President.

Make America Drive Again!

My counter argument to the budget deficit:

We're actually a Constitutional Republic, and there's many reasons for that.