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Where are you getting your Capacity Points Solo?
 Bismarck.Laurelli
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-07-02 07:56:21
My hammers are normally 1k+ MP return, and often a full restore if I'm fighting something not resistant to light. You'll want to treat the spell just like any nuke, with plenty of macc and MAB. As for my CP spot, I normally go to Woh Gates bats if I intend to melee, but cleaving those is also a very good idea if you have a good DT set for pulling.
With how powerful our new nukes are, I'd be interested to test magic setups more thoroughly.
You're forgetting something.
You can have a full Magic attack bonus set, but still be using swords, and still get crap for damage.
You need clubs with magic damage on them. BLU nukes, including magic hammer have low base damage that needs to be buffed with magic damage (dual wield clubs), then they do lots of damage.
Sub a club, main a Medeina Kiliji. You get Sanguine Blade and
all the MAB you need. I was able to solo Fenrir on N with trusts and my aegis PLD to get this sword. Also, the sword drops pretty often. I got 3 others for friends. In total, I went 4/10 on N. 2 of those were without THF.
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By dustinfoley 2015-07-02 08:11:15
What trusts did you use, because I tried on easy and enspell dmg was doing 300-500 a hit.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-07-02 09:11:28
I was PLD/RUN always keeping lux on. I used Amchuchu, Ulmia, Apururu and Koru-Moru. Amchuchu is RUN/WAR and he provokes at the start. So you will need to spam Lux and all your hate moves to regain hate and pull Fenrir away from the support trusts. After that, it's just a straightforward fight. And as PLD, don't be afraid to cure your trusts, especially after they convert.
The times I duoed it, I went either with a THF or a RUN. Those times I used Arciela instead of Amchuchu.
And don't give up if you fail once. 1 run, he used Eclipse bite for over 2300 damage on me and we lost. But all the other runs, he usually only did 230 damage. So if he does crazy damage on you 1 time, don't give up expecting that to happen every time.
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By Bahamut.Lykinia 2015-07-03 00:04:30
I get my CP in Sih Gates. I was just spamming bats and leeches til new spells were added. No alternate Searing Tempest and Spectral Floe on acuex. Magic hammer to full mp and repeat till. Usually about 10 per hour. Spectral hits acuex for 10k searing for 8-9k-ish. If you find you are killing mobs too fast throw the leeches and bats in too. They can get it too. Happy hunting. (Btw. the entrance is in C. Battleground southern warp.)
Thanks for the info! Quick question though, you are getting 10 cp an hour even though double cp ended?
This was during campaign. So probably points an hour. Still pretty good. Haven't been there since the campaign ended.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-07-03 03:26:50
Bismarck.Laurelli said: »I was PLD/RUN always keeping lux on. I used Amchuchu, Ulmia, Apururu and Koru-Moru. Amchuchu is RUN/WAR and he provokes at the start. So you will need to spam Lux and all your hate moves to regain hate and pull Fenrir away from the support trusts. After that, it's just a straightforward fight. And as PLD, don't be afraid to cure your trusts, especially after they convert.
The times I duoed it, I went either with a THF or a RUN. Those times I used Arciela instead of Amchuchu.
And don't give up if you fail once. 1 run, he used Eclipse bite for over 2300 damage on me and we lost. But all the other runs, he usually only did 230 damage. So if he does crazy damage on you 1 time, don't give up expecting that to happen every time. When you say spam are you just exaggerating it a bit? The duration of Lux is 5mins so it doesn't really need to be spammed as such.
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By Sylph.Staleyx 2015-07-03 05:46:54
He has a full dispell move. Maybe he means make sure you are keeping it up. Im starting to clear normal on rdm/nin also so keep it up!
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-07-03 05:57:51
He has a full dispell move. Maybe he means make sure you are keeping it up. Im starting to clear normal on rdm/nin also so keep it up! Ah right the dispel move is definitely a nuisance.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-07-08 12:21:17
Bismarck.Laurelli said: »I was PLD/RUN always keeping lux on. I used Amchuchu, Ulmia, Apururu and Koru-Moru. Amchuchu is RUN/WAR and he provokes at the start. So you will need to spam Lux and all your hate moves to regain hate and pull Fenrir away from the support trusts. After that, it's just a straightforward fight. And as PLD, don't be afraid to cure your trusts, especially after they convert.
The times I duoed it, I went either with a THF or a RUN. Those times I used Arciela instead of Amchuchu.
And don't give up if you fail once. 1 run, he used Eclipse bite for over 2300 damage on me and we lost. But all the other runs, he usually only did 230 damage. So if he does crazy damage on you 1 time, don't give up expecting that to happen every time. When you say spam are you just exaggerating it a bit? The duration of Lux is 5mins so it doesn't really need to be spammed as such. Spam it just at the start to get hate so you can pull fenrir off RUN trust and position yourself away from the support trusts. Sorry for the late reply.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-07-08 12:37:08
Runes don't generate enmity, unless there's some bizarre hate mechanic. They also can't be dispelled. Amchuchu doesn't immediately spam potent hate moves in the same manner a real tank could, so it wouldn't be too hard to rip hate off her if you wanted to.
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EDIT: JeanPaul beat me to it by seconds.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-10-15 08:08:13
The best camp I found is sih gate basement after the acuexs there's a few rooms with bats and leeches. For me I chain pull a bat to where there's a a few other leeches thus only a few bats are hitting me while the leeches stays passive so I can get subduction off. While 5-6 mobs are gravitied i cast spectral floe then searing tempest to finish them off. Magic hammer on acuexs to refill mp. Reapplied buffs and Repeat. Trying to pull 5-6 aceuxs I get killed numerous times.
How's people getting their job points on blues nowadays? Any better method?
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-10-18 10:21:46
I got a bunch doing Apex Bat, Apex Pugil, Apex Crab, and Apex Cracklaw (eww).
Now, that wasn't solo. I think I COULD solo them provided I only got one at a time.
I'm not sure if the reward is worth the time investment. We went with SCH BLM RNG BLU NIN PUP, and kept up a fairly steady chain until Cracklaw happened, which took longer even with Immanence chains and everyone with spells MBing into it.
As it got later, we lost the PUP and the RNG, who were quickly replaced by trust so that I could get off heal duty (on BLU, gogo White Wind/Winds!) and DD. There didn't seem to be any issues with kill speed, and both melee had no issues hitting them.
It's a thought. It's not a long trip to try, and I guess if I use Ulmia, Joachim, Arciela, Qultada (and a ton of CP rings), King Kupo and MAYBE Apururu, but if she starts doing the Refresh Derp she's out.
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By Bahamut.Boogerballs 2015-10-18 11:30:06
The best camp I found is sih gate basement after the acuexs there's a few rooms with bats and leeches. For me I chain pull a bat to where there's a a few other leeches thus only a few bats are hitting me while the leeches stays passive so I can get subduction off. While 5-6 mobs are gravitied i cast spectral floe then searing tempest to finish them off. Magic hammer on acuexs to refill mp. Reapplied buffs and Repeat. Trying to pull 5-6 aceuxs I get killed numerous times.
How's people getting their job points on blues nowadays? Any better method?
are u using verve? because this shouldnt happen. i can pull a whole camp and flow them then use a 2nd spell depending on the type of mob and i can 2 shot a whole pull.
Personally i like doing Apex leeches with a mb set up. with 2 blms, the mob is dead after 1 skillchain
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-10-18 11:59:24
Bahamut.Boogerballs said: »The best camp I found is sih gate basement after the acuexs there's a few rooms with bats and leeches. For me I chain pull a bat to where there's a a few other leeches thus only a few bats are hitting me while the leeches stays passive so I can get subduction off. While 5-6 mobs are gravitied i cast spectral floe then searing tempest to finish them off. Magic hammer on acuexs to refill mp. Reapplied buffs and Repeat. Trying to pull 5-6 aceuxs I get killed numerous times.
How's people getting their job points on blues nowadays? Any better method?
are u using verve? because this shouldnt happen. i can pull a whole camp and flow them then use a 2nd spell depending on the type of mob and i can 2 shot a whole pull.
Personally i like doing Apex leeches with a mb set up. with 2 blms, the mob is dead after 1 skillchain
No verve, still a noob. Will get that soon now that I hit 100 JPs. Will try the apex camp once I get 2 nibiru blades. Thanks
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-10-18 13:15:03
Generally if I know I'm going to be blowing up the world, I go BLU/RDM and and just cast Aquaveil, Metallic Body, Ice Spikes, and Cocoon (and Flutter, of course).
If you have the elemental spells, I'd imagine that Spectral Floe would be pretty useful against acuex. The terror effect gives you time to cast your next spell if you need to. I usually go for Tenebral Crush if they're at reasonably high HP, Subduction spam if they're close to dead.
Also, if you wanna go try the WKR at some point to get your spell, lmk if I'm online, I will help kill it if you need it.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-10-18 14:31:59
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »Generally if I know I'm going to be blowing up the world, I go BLU/RDM and and just cast Aquaveil, Metallic Body, Ice Spikes, and Cocoon (and Flutter, of course).
If you have the elemental spells, I'd imagine that Spectral Floe would be pretty useful against acuex. The terror effect gives you time to cast your next spell if you need to. I usually go for Tenebral Crush if they're at reasonably high HP, Subduction spam if they're close to dead.
Also, if you wanna go try the WKR at some point to get your spell, lmk if I'm online, I will help kill it if you need it.
Thanks seeker always lending a helping hand. I can do the wildskeeper if need to, just that I been busy JPing to 100 and prior getting other easier to get spells.
I just burst affinity spectral floe one shot as many acuex as possible. Then pull acuexs while fully buffed. Subduction spectral searing tempest. Then kill the 2 acuexs in the corner. Move on to bats pull bat and link 4 one of them while subduction the bats and as many neighboring leeches as possible. Ba is up by now then use that spectral floe searing tempest. Then walk back to acuexs.
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By Ragnarok.Orlind 2015-10-18 14:36:23
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »Generally if I know I'm going to be blowing up the world, I go BLU/RDM and and just cast Aquaveil, Metallic Body, Ice Spikes, and Cocoon (and Flutter, of course)
Is there some reason you're using Aquaveil over Verve? Like using Unbridled for another spell? Because I thought Verve beat Aquaveil in all aspects.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-10-18 14:42:03
Mighty Guard, usually. Especially on stuff that can hit me and hurt.
If I'm in party with another BLU one of us will Verve, the other MG for expediency.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-10-18 15:18:33
When u doing your Jp ing? I'm only at 110/1200
By oyama 2015-10-18 15:22:40
I CP on acuexes in sih basement, but you need a decent pdt set and carcharian verve to make it worthwhile. Begin pull on the 2 acuexes at the top of the hallway on the left: occultation, verve, diamondhide, barrier tusk, cocoon, pull the far acuex with magic hammer and run down to the bottom of the hall, dream flower > BA > Tenebral Crush. It's a 12- mob pull and they're usually all oneshotted by BA Crush. Substitute Spectral Floe for crush if you don't have pixie +1. Run back up hallway and kill the single bat at the top to keep chain, then hit the rest of the mobs up there until repops or you lose chain. I usually /sch for RR and extra healing skill for magic fruit. The bats and leeches take good damage from subduction and are easy to cleave.
Alternatively, instead of going back up to the top of the hallway after the big pull, you can go east to the spiders and bats. They give slightly more cp per kill, but it's more dangerous and spiders take longer to die. It's your call, but I've gotten chain to high 20's pretty easily with either option. Once you lose chain, rebuff and start it over with the big pull.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-10-18 16:00:21
When u doing your Jp ing? I'm only at 110/1200
Whenever I am not getting kidnapped for various purposes. My next big project is making an entire set of Aby ZB pops, a few NM popsets for good atma, and leading the charge against them and the caturae for any and all that lack clears.
This is between siltfarm, power leveling, escorting folks through Adoulin areas for KI, etc etc etc....and trying (and failing) to make enough gil to satisfy my need for new abjuration gear.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-10-18 16:34:29
I got my 1200 cleaving on the acuex/bat/leech camp in Sih Gates. Spent three days after the 1200 was released farming about 920 JPs. I went BLU/RDM normally, but most subs will do. You want to keep up Occultation, Barrier Tusk, Cocoon, Metallic Body/Diamondhide, and Carcharian Verve at all times. Nothing sucks more than losing Aquaveil in the middle of a pull and dying.
I go BLU/SCH now that we have access to all storms. With improved gear from before, I can one-shot the acuex with Tenebral or Spectral and the corresponding storm. That's with some very good gear, though, so if you're having trouble with that, I'd suggest saving Burst Affinity for acuex pulls. For bats/leeches, I normally Entomb > Spectral and they're down.
I've had capped JPs for a while now, but I believe people I cleave for normally report around 60-80 JPs an hour depending on their gifts/other bonuses.
By lhova 2015-10-20 10:28:31
I got my 1200 cleaving on the acuex/bat/leech camp in Sih Gates. Spent three days after the 1200 was released farming about 920 JPs. I went BLU/RDM normally, but most subs will do. You want to keep up Occultation, Barrier Tusk, Cocoon, Metallic Body/Diamondhide, and Carcharian Verve at all times. Nothing sucks more than losing Aquaveil in the middle of a pull and dying.
I go BLU/SCH now that we have access to all storms. With improved gear from before, I can one-shot the acuex with Tenebral or Spectral and the corresponding storm. That's with some very good gear, though, so if you're having trouble with that, I'd suggest saving Burst Affinity for acuex pulls. For bats/leeches, I normally Entomb > Spectral and they're down.
I've had capped JPs for a while now, but I believe people I cleave for normally report around 60-80 JPs an hour depending on their gifts/other bonuses.
i need to get my BLU to 1200 JPS (currently 498/1200). I was doing acuexs in Sih gates (Cel forest warp) and during double CP it was pretty decent. Now with just using cap ring, trizek, kupo cor trust and mesc. +44% cape, the cp is pretty slow. Just wondering how on solo people are getting 60-80 JPs per hour. I also have all the mission cap bonuses (not Bastok and Windy) and all the rieve one as well.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-10-20 11:19:56
I got my 1200 cleaving on the acuex/bat/leech camp in Sih Gates. Spent three days after the 1200 was released farming about 920 JPs. I went BLU/RDM normally, but most subs will do. You want to keep up Occultation, Barrier Tusk, Cocoon, Metallic Body/Diamondhide, and Carcharian Verve at all times. Nothing sucks more than losing Aquaveil in the middle of a pull and dying.
I go BLU/SCH now that we have access to all storms. With improved gear from before, I can one-shot the acuex with Tenebral or Spectral and the corresponding storm. That's with some very good gear, though, so if you're having trouble with that, I'd suggest saving Burst Affinity for acuex pulls. For bats/leeches, I normally Entomb > Spectral and they're down.
I've had capped JPs for a while now, but I believe people I cleave for normally report around 60-80 JPs an hour depending on their gifts/other bonuses.
i need to get my BLU to 1200 JPS (currently 498/1200). I was doing acuexs in Sih gates (Cel forest warp) and during double CP it was pretty decent. Now with just using cap ring, trizek, kupo cor trust and mesc. +44% cape, the cp is pretty slow. Just wondering how on solo people are getting 60-80 JPs per hour. I also have all the mission cap bonuses (not Bastok and Windy) and all the rieve one as well.
The best I can do is 15 Jp a hour and I was doing it as best as I can solo. No one can do 60-80 an hour without double cap campaign.
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By lhova 2015-10-31 11:07:31
I just don't get why people don't coordinate to farm JP together. I randomly met up with a paladin and his mules in Sih gates and we decided to team up. He would gather all the leeches, bats, acuexs for about 25 mobs or so and I would BA Spectrul Floe and they were 1 shotted. I farmed 50 Jp's in about an hour with him. He even gather kraken's, spiders and such and he would cleave and I would Subduction them down. it makes no sense to solo when you can do it together but whenever I shout on my server, i never get a response... :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Ninjaface 2015-10-31 12:12:26
I just don't get why people don't coordinate to farm JP together. I randomly met up with a paladin and his mules in Sih gates and we decided to team up. He would gather all the leeches, bats, acuexs for about 25 mobs or so and I would BA Spectrul Floe and they were 1 shotted. I farmed 50 Jp's in about an hour with him. He even gather kraken's, spiders and such and he would cleave and I would Subduction them down. it makes no sense to solo when you can do it together but whenever I shout on my server, i never get a response... :( I usually have to decide if the extra person is going to be worth a spot over one of my support trusts(since I don't have a cleave set right now I need a couple of very specific trusts to stay efficient). I usually only go with LS mates, and even then I wind up just carrying them most of the time. I can usually only get 15 or 20 JP before I get super bored, though.
I do love when a party is actually coming together and everyone is actually playing and pulling their weight.
By lhova 2015-10-31 12:54:01
Quetzalcoatl.Ninjaface said: »I just don't get why people don't coordinate to farm JP together. I randomly met up with a paladin and his mules in Sih gates and we decided to team up. He would gather all the leeches, bats, acuexs for about 25 mobs or so and I would BA Spectrul Floe and they were 1 shotted. I farmed 50 Jp's in about an hour with him. He even gather kraken's, spiders and such and he would cleave and I would Subduction them down. it makes no sense to solo when you can do it together but whenever I shout on my server, i never get a response... :( I usually have to decide if the extra person is going to be worth a spot over one of my support trusts(since I don't have a cleave set right now I need a couple of very specific trusts to stay efficient). I usually only go with LS mates, and even then I wind up just carrying them most of the time. I can usually only get 15 or 20 JP before I get super bored, though.
I do love when a party is actually coming together and everyone is actually playing and pulling their weight.
I mean really it seems that as a good BLU all you need is a puller (seems paladin was kick *** but not sure how Rune or Nin would do) that could live through the attacks and as BLU 1 shot the entire group.
I'm new to Blue mage and I need tons of CP. I'm currently doing Marjami Biv 2 (Pugs, frogs and Twith) and with Twizek ring, 44% cape, and CP + from WKR and Reives I'm only getting about 1300 CP per kill. My ring is normally done after 3 and a half CP gained and due to the fact that people rarely want to do CP parties, I'm just curious on where peeps are getting their CP in bunches.
I'm currently just doing a Subduction spam and with current gear it normally takes me about 5 to 6 Subductions (at 1900-23000 damage per mob) to kill them. Not sure if I tried a harder area if my subductions would be any lower (hence make it not worth it) but at this rate its going to take me a really long time to even get to 100 JP gift, let alone maxing at 550.
i normally eat cream puffs, trust are Moogle, Koru, Kuipi and Star Sybil. I'll post my magic/subduction set here (I can't remember the name of my belt but I know that it has obi at the end). Also clubs are ranked 12, Hag head has +15 MAB, hag body +25 Macc, Hag legs +27 Macc, helios hands 20/20 Mab Mac, Int 8 and helios feet have 18/18 mab, MAcc, Int 8 and can't remember the 3 aug on either. 19/550 on Gift points.
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