Sigurd's Descendants: The Art Of Dragon Slaying.

which consists of what? you can't just throw out numbers with no context and expect people to just accept them.

My set is:
ItemSet 354261

Body with QA3 and Legs with DA5

what about your drg_gear.txt file, since that's the only way to add QA on valorous.

Yes I modified it as you mentioned before.

in any case Sim doesn't run without the drg_gear.txt with it in the same folder.

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def example_body(job):
job.str += 29
job.dex += 25
job.vit += 29
job.acc += 20
job.eq_haste += 30
job.stp += 3
job.da += 2
#augments
job.acc += 9
job.atk += 9
job.qa += 3
gearname['body'].append('example_body')

def example_legs(job):
job.str += 39
job.dex += 26
job.vit += 15
job.atk += 25
job.eq_haste += 51
job.stp += 3
job.da += 2
#augments
job.acc += 31
job.atk += 24
job.da += 5
gearname['legs'].append('example_legs')

def example_waist(job):
job.acc += 2
job.qa += 2
job.ta += 2
gearname['waist'].append('example_waist')

The moment I got QA3 I tailored TP set towards QA knowing the haste issues firsthand but still managed to cap it.

can add 2 more QA on another valorous legs but thought id be much better with DA5 since that acc,attk covers body low 9s

I will run another sim for QA2 legs and see.

I am not a fan of QA all over. There is a smoothness and consistency in terms of damge and tp gain that you give up going from very high da to get smaller amounts if qa...which you generally also give up other stats to get. It makes damage and tp gain erratic.

Not saying its wrong and i get the math working in its favor. I am just not a personal fan of it...cause lucky streaks also means unlucky streaks...i dont like dropping my damage floor

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Simulated Average: rhongomiant 4432.16 (WS : 16340.65 )
AA Percent: 0.43 WS Percent: 0.57

ItemSet 354261

//QA3 Body// DA5 Legs//

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Simulated Average: trishula 4320.6 (WS : 21191.06 )
AA Percent: 0.23 WS Percent: 0.77
Sim perfect TP Set

ItemSet 354270

//8 STP body, legs//
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Simulated Average: rhongomiant 4482.57 (WS : 16426.79 )
AA Percent: 0.43 WS Percent: 0.57

ItemSet 354261

//QA3 Body// QA2 Legs//


[A vs B] A wins by 2.6%
[C vs B] C wins by 3.7%
[A vs C] C wins by 1.1%

switching to QA2 is debatable since its 1.1% increase, and Sid you do have a point there yet can be argued in capped buffs situations.

By using Sim DA5 sets for Rho [perfect augments] and switching Belt/neck like the others:

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---------------------------D-----------------------------
Simulated Average: rhongomiant 4533.65 (WS : 16348.46 )
AA Percent: 0.43 WS Percent: 0.57

ItemSet 354261

//10 STR 25 AccAtk DA5 Body// 10 STR 25 AccAtk DA5 Legs//

I guess the whole issue was switching neck/belt and thats were the whole confusion came from between all of us.
Because Perfect Rho Set "D" wins Trish perfect set "B" by 4.9% once you do the switch.

"Best" Trish set:
~4400 no rolls
~5175 SAM roll
~5825 SAM + WAR rolls

"Best" Rho set:
~4500 no rolls
~5175 SAM roll
~5800 SAM + WAR rolls

Trish QA set:
~4400 no rolls
~5200 SAM roll
~5875 SAM + WAR rolls

Kat Rho set:
~4475 no rolls
~5100 SAM roll
~5650 SAM + WAR rolls


I didn't mess around with QA options too much, but more or less used the same set as Kat uses just used Ios belt instead. I kept everything at the "default" settings, which isn't really a default, just what I happened to save it as when I uploaded. So attack is a few hundred points off of being capped for all sets and no changes in the sets to accommodate the rolls which could swing things a little more than this.

I feel like you two are having the greatest heated agreement ever.

Just did the same with QA 2 legs and got [HQ belt]:

~4795 no rolls
~5530 SAM roll
~5800 SAM + WAR rolls

Switched to QA Trish and:

~4720 no rolls
~5555 SAM roll
~5785 SAM + WAR rolls

Still same percentages. /shrug

I still get lower numbers by a couple hundred even with QA3 on legs instead of 2.

Using your same set but with HQ Io belt, I get ~4500 no rolls.

Just one is sufficient. The buffs used for higher content should be used to test DPS on lower content. Leaving as many variables constant is good science!

I'm sorry your sim doesn't seem to support real game mechanics.

then why did you want to "test" with trust buffs?

and no, it isn't. you should be using buffs for the situation. the situation you wanted was cp farming since you think even that is too difficult unless you have extra buffs another set doesn't require. and a blm with malaise is going to net you more cp than using another buff so the monk you don't want to take to anything anyways, can do maybe 2-3% more dps despite slowing down the goal of killing it faster.

you don't support real game mechanics.

All tests are aligned with the following (so far):

• Rho wins in low buffs by a good margin.
  

• Trish wins with just SAM roll (idk why this is even a case unless your COR can't Chaos >.>) it can be easily dismissed.

• SAM/Chaos Rolls results vary between us but your margin is extremely low compared to mine which begets the notion of how close they are... making any debate about it trivial, yet I still think in capped buffs Rho will pull ahead by 2-3% but I digress.

• QA sets need to be factored as well when you compare the two (logically speaking) and I can see that its going to be in favor of Rho! Oh wait it already did to me.

• I Need HQ belt now!

One last note, I think there was a tiny mistake when you compared QA set with Trish vs My Set. My set needs to be tested on both if you talk QA only, Perfect Rho vs Perfect Trish are Okay but my findings vs Perfect Trish with my QA set was only done to show why I was debating the whole time about it.
You need to limit variables of comparison:

Perfect vs Perfect.
Kat Trish vs Kat Rho.
Kat Trish vs Kat QA Rho.
Kat QA Trish vs Kat QA Rho.
Kat QA vs Perfect Trish and Perfect Rho.

Thats what I did before in order to make my set the (common factor between all variables simply because perfect sets are extremely hard to obtain "probability wise")

This, without doing QA Rho as well.
Its missing.

Also I really like how Carrotchan likes your comments all the time, what a sweet fan :)
Can it be petted? or it bites?

Kat Rho set:
~4475 no rolls
~5100 SAM roll
~5650 SAM + WAR rolls

literally same post you qouted.

and carrot has no posting privileges, +ing a post is the only way they can communicate an opinion.

This one refers to what?
All QA3?

QA3 on body and legs. actually didn't use QA legs for trish, just body.

XD Cute~

Yeah this one then needs to be done on Rho as well! not just Kat QA2 set

I used QA3 on both body and legs when those pieces were used.

K will try to clean it up with the same breakdown and you can do the same if you want: //SAM,Chaos,Torpor,Frailty//


Perfect Rho:
Simulated Average: rhongomiant 5414.98 (WS : 18131.6 )
AA Percent: 0.36 WS Percent: 0.64

Perfect QA Rho:
Simulated Average: rhongomiant 5541.1 (WS : 18412.16 )
AA Percent: 0.36 WS Percent: 0.64

Kat QA Rho:
Simulated Average: rhongomiant 5507.27 (WS : 18419.2 )
AA Percent: 0.35 WS Percent: 0.65

Perfect Trish:
Simulated Average: trishula 5375.29 (WS : 22088.01 )
AA Percent: 0.15 WS Percent: 0.85

Perfect QA Trish:
Simulated Average: trishula 5477.28 (WS : 22145.5 )
AA Percent: 0.16 WS Percent: 0.84

Kat Trish:
Simulated Average: trishula 5320.12 (WS : 21670.12 )
AA Percent: 0.17 WS Percent: 0.81

Edit: Just added my sets to support my earlier findings [Rho beats Trish by 3.5% in Sim and in Spreadsheets its 4.3%]

that ~1% difference between the two weapons is easily made up in skillchain damage and human error is the point, not to mention more variance involved on QA. and regarding your personal sets, there might be other configurations for your trishula set too, I can't say for sure since I don't know what your inventory looks like. could be off a few critical points of store tp, for example.

I still get a few hundred less. Do you have blessing on, or escha buffs maybe?

Oh I can share my Trish set and its exactly 4HIT, Sidra can confirm too we tested together [Legs with STP 8, Empy body +1, Perfect Acro, Flamma +2 for both]

Definitely other factors can bridge the 1% [perfect sets] gap, and I'm a full advocate of human error/lag factors.

Yet we don't have perfect sets do we? and my own sets have 3.5% difference~ can't even imagine other players percentages.

No I don't.

well the "perfect" sets don't use DM augments either, just really strong regular stone ones. My sim doesn't even assume max da/stp/str/wsd augs since even those aren't the most common thing. but that's why I allowed users to add their own, even if it's not the prettiest or easiest way to get it done.

Yes I did notice that, and I think it was a wise approach.
Personally I got lucky with WS arguments 15 STR 4% WSD on all and I didn't factor them in and used yours.

For example Valorous feet got 15 STR 28Attk 33Acc WSD 4% after 98465846549584756498545764 Taupe.