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 Shiva.Afliction
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By Shiva.Afliction 2014-07-12 03:46:13
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education, work, porn, or an addiction are you choices. Buck up and accept it! i at times feel like you but honestly if i wanted a change i would put forth an effort to do so, instead atm im wasting away my days in this *** MMO pondering wtf happend to the fun. Camping nms and claiming them was fun imo, 2hrs of dyna farming and making a relic in a month or so was fun(for a period of time) i guess what im saying is break your routine and adventure into a new endeavour, you never know whats gonna be under that rock that hasnt been over turned yet
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By Bahamut.Sharmarali 2014-07-12 04:35:47
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To be honest, you sound like you might be struggling with depression, OP. Loss of interest in all activities you used to enjoy is one of the classic symptoms. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and that's cool, but if there's even a chance I'm right, you need to take care of yourself before you worry about how to fill up your time. Talk to your doctor, he or she can help you figure out if that's what is going on.

That said, if you are not depressed, my best advice would be to find something that seems interesting and throw yourself into it for awhile. Build model airplanes, do crossword puzzles, paint, research a topic you like, anything. It doesn't need to be a permanent hobby. It might make you discovery other things you enjoy. Good luck.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 04:42:11
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Sigh, I guess you guys don't read; I clearly said;

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The only thing that keeps me sane is wasting the hours I have not working/sleeping is playing this

Everyone suggests I get a job, I already have? I mean am I supposed to get 2 jobs?

Pretty much figured this would be what I get, a bunch of tards who don't/can't/won't read.
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By Voren 2014-07-12 04:47:19
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Sigh, I guess you guys don't read; I clearly said;

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The only thing that keeps me sane is wasting the hours I have not working/sleeping is playing this

Everyone suggests I get a job, I already have? I mean am I supposed to get 2 jobs?

Pretty much figured this would be what I get, a bunch of tards who don't/can't/won't read.

Speaking of tards, not everyone has suggested getting a job. There's been some other suggestions, but it almost seems like this thread was created with the intent to flame, almost as if you're planning to get your jollies this way, thus ending boredom.
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By Asura.Voidwolf 2014-07-12 04:49:16
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Good luck with your ***life, then.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 04:53:55
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I was being 100% genuine, I dislike a lot of things, and I was hoping to find one decent suggestion, but all you guys want to do is suggest I work which I already do, so that's zero help.

I want to thank nyruul though, that office space trailer, cheered me up.

I vaguely recall 12 years ago I used to enjoy so many more things, I don't know why they don't sound appealing anymore. Reasonably certain this nails it.

Bahamut.Sharmarali said: »
To be honest, you sound like you might be struggling with depression.

Really was hoping some stupid XIV ***wouldn't show up but of course it did. Just like every single thread on this site. /sadpanda.
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-07-12 04:56:32
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Shiva.Afliction said: »
break your routine and adventure into a new endeavour

Bahamut.Sharmarali said: »
To be honest, you sound like you might be struggling with depression, OP.

Shiva.Viciousss said: »
If you are that pathetic and don't want to like, go outside and make friends, simply play a better videogame. There are a ton of them out there.

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You know, you've gotten a frankly huge response for such whiny thread that no one had to give you any advice on in the first place, you could maybe try stepping off your high horse and not lumping everyone into one category because you got mad that a few people suggested a job, and you know, read. Considering you called everyone else out on not reading seems you didn't spend much time doing it yourself.
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By Nyruul 2014-07-12 04:58:13
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Voren said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Sigh, I guess you guys don't read; I clearly said;

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The only thing that keeps me sane is wasting the hours I have not working/sleeping is playing this

Everyone suggests I get a job, I already have? I mean am I supposed to get 2 jobs?

Pretty much figured this would be what I get, a bunch of tards who don't/can't/won't read.

Speaking of tards, not everyone has suggested getting a job. There's been some other suggestions, but it almost seems like this thread was created with the intent to flame, almost as if you're planning to get your jollies this way, thus ending boredom.

Really, you do make yourself look like a troll here... That or the apitomy(someone can correct the spelling error idk lol) of someone as far along in a game as you are here.

Do you live in your mother's basement?

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Bismarck.Inference said: »
You know, you've gotten a frankly huge response for such whiny thread that no one had to give you any advice on in the first place, you could maybe try stepping off your high horse and not lumping everyone into one category because you got mad that a few people suggested a job, and you know, read. Considering you called everyone else out on not reading seems you didn't spend much time doing it yourself.

DING!!!!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 04:59:08
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I read everything, I just got mad about the job ***. It just shows that those people didn't bother reading, yet felt like commenting anyway. welcome to the internet.

Do you live in your mother's basement? No, I've got my own joint, just really wanted some advice on what others did when they tried to quit. All I was really asking.
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By Nyruul 2014-07-12 05:00:26
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I read everything, I just got mad about the job ***. It just shows that those people didn't bother reading, yet felt like commenting anyway. welcome to the internet.

I understand that, and I knew that would piss you off. Thats why I went ahead and pointed out for you in your absence.

Join Peace Corps
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 05:02:24
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Nyruul said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I read everything, I just got mad about the job ***. It just shows that those people didn't bother reading, yet felt like commenting anyway. welcome to the internet.

I understand that, and I knew that would piss you off. Thats why I went ahead and pointed out for you in your absence.

Join Peace Corps

I'm already retired Army, so I've done that, not the peace corps, but same general idea. Speaking of, military most likely has something to do with my general hatred of humanity.. but that's a whole can of worms there...
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By Voren 2014-07-12 05:02:33
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 05:12:02
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I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

So I'll edit the Op. One thing I keep forgetting about the internet, if it's more than a sentence long, it WILL NOT be read.
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By Pantafernando 2014-07-12 05:15:56
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I didnt stop yet, but i do plan to stop somday, preferably this year.

When i quit, prob i will resume my activities before i started playing more often.

That was, in weekend and holyday/vacations, playing sports (futsal) at morning for around 3 hours, back to home, sleep like a rock for 1h, read some manga, trying some drawing, because i would like to create my own comics, watch my team play, walk to shopping to check some chicks and repeat till next work day.

In week day, its work from 7am till 12pm, gym to some running for 45 mins, back to work till 4 pm, gym for anaerobics, back to home to read some manga, drawing or walk in street.

When i quit this game i will resume all that but set some goals for my life, to give it a sense. First of all is that long time goal of comics. If i could even make some cash of that, would be great. Second is to find another job. My current one is decent, its low stress, low demand and high cash, but i want something who can ask more frm me. For that, probably studying a bit in free time, or even start a new carrer. Eletronic stuffs and computers always amazed me.
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2014-07-12 05:16:59
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I absolutely relate to your dilemma. I'll post after work; I'm late. Not that I think my post will be helpful, but I can tell you what I did when I quit :/
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 05:20:30
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Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
I absolutely relate to your dilemma. I'll post after work; I'm late. Not that I think my post will be helpful, but I can tell you what I did when I quit :/

Well, sevourn, even your help would be welcomed. I'm just at a loss, I've spent entirely too much time doing this and I've basically forgotten how to do/enjoy anything else.
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By Asura.Voidwolf 2014-07-12 05:30:47
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Force yourself to climb out of the hole. Nothing will change if you spend your time ignoring and hating the rest of the world.
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By Sylph.Rasibian 2014-07-12 05:36:56
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duno if that would help u but here i go...if u ask anyone on sylph they can prolly relate that i was prolly in the top 20 of the no life...what helped me alot to stop the game is the new job i got(planting tree in the wood so im gonne 4day per week in the wood) but beside that, personally in ffxi what i was looking for is the adrenaline, want my ***ing heart to beat man, so what i started recently is doing sport like bicycle, rollerblade, running, ssly anything that isnt gym and that u will do 1-4hours in a row without thinking...after i get that done (wich is the same after a day of planting tree) all i wana do is relax, drink a couple beer listen to music or just do nothing...like i said this is me but might help u or might not help u...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-12 05:42:02
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.

That's a hard question to answer, because 99.999% of FFXI time was spent basically free anyway, unless you take AFK in towngear really seriously.

So basically what I do with my free FFXI time is save 15 bucks a month.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 05:48:59
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.

That's a hard question to answer, because 99.999% of FFXI time was spent basically free anyway, unless you take AFK in towngear really seriously.

So basically what I do with my free FFXI time is save 15 bucks a month.

That's possibly the best and worst answer ever, and I'm not trying to be a *** about it, my rationalization is this; Yeah saving the money per month is awesome, but, literally anything else you do is going to cost you MORE money PER DAY, than playing ffxi PER MONTH... Unless we're talking like nature hikes... and even then sometimes it's like $15 to get into the state parks or that much in gas alone to drive to the mountain.

So, while it's an amazing rationalization, it doesn't echo. An MMO is possibly the best money:time wasted ratio you can possibly get as far as entertainment. I can't think of anything that comes even remotely close to providing 30 days of "entertainment" for $15... you can't even drink water for 30 days for $15 anymore...
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By Leviathan.Feint 2014-07-12 05:56:33
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Asura.Voidwolf said: »
Force yourself to climb out of the hole. Nothing will change if you spend your time ignoring and hating the rest of the world.
Go back to your hole, troll.
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By Leviathan.Feint 2014-07-12 05:59:00
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.
Do you have a g/f or b/f?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 06:03:10
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Leviathan.Feint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.
Do you have a g/f or b/f?

Naw, I'm one of those odd people who go against human nature. I do not enjoy the company of people. I like being alone. I've had, it's more effort than it's worth. And you can take that however you want.

Haven't found the right one etc, right one doesn't exist etcetc.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-12 06:10:10
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.

That's a hard question to answer, because 99.999% of FFXI time was spent basically free anyway, unless you take AFK in towngear really seriously.

So basically what I do with my free FFXI time is save 15 bucks a month.

That's possibly the best and worst answer ever, and I'm not trying to be a *** about it, my rationalization is this; Yeah saving the money per month is awesome, but, literally anything else you do is going to cost you MORE money PER DAY, than playing ffxi PER MONTH... Unless we're talking like nature hikes... and even then sometimes it's like $15 to get into the state parks or that much in gas alone to drive to the mountain.

So, while it's an amazing rationalization, it doesn't echo. An MMO is possibly the best money:time wasted ratio you can possibly get as far as entertainment. I can't think of anything that comes even remotely close to providing 30 days of "entertainment" for $15... you can't even drink water for 30 days for $15 anymore...

No, what you're saying is fine and you're not being a *** about it. It's a personal judgement call on value. By the time I quit, I was doing so little in-game that really the sub fee was just lost money.


The only issue I take with your comment is that it actually suggest a very addictive relationship you may have with an MMO. I was never tethered to the game, the MMO was basically just "Another Game" I played, so it wasn't really saving me any cash the way you describe it. I still did all the things I wanted to/had to. So I could go hiking at a nature preserve and still come home and play FFXI. I could still buy a new game, and not even play FFXI for a couple months.

TL;DR MMO subscription and Other activities are not mutually exclusive.
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By Leviathan.Feint 2014-07-12 06:10:57
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Leviathan.Feint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.
Do you have a g/f or b/f?

Naw, I'm one of those odd people who go against human nature. I do not enjoy the company of people. I like being alone. I've had, it's more effort than it's worth. And you can take that however you want.

Haven't found the right one etc, right one doesn't exist etcetc.
Can take up exercising or attend/go back to school. Both can take up a lot of your free time. They may not be as fun but are productive at least.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-12 06:17:26
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Leviathan.Feint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Leviathan.Feint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
I guess I should've just simply asked what the people who quit do with their time, instead of bothering to pre-rule out all the things and reasons why I wouldn't/couldn't since they wouldn't be read anyway.

If you quit, what do you do with your former FFXI time? Aside from work/sleep.
Do you have a g/f or b/f?

Naw, I'm one of those odd people who go against human nature. I do not enjoy the company of people. I like being alone. I've had, it's more effort than it's worth. And you can take that however you want.

Haven't found the right one etc, right one doesn't exist etcetc.
Can take up exercising or attend/go back to school. Both can take up a lot of your free time. They may not be as fun but are productive at least.

Gaming is arguably more productive than exercise. The research behind gaming as a source of growth for a person's creative problem-solving skills and capacity for critical thinking is substantial. Just like exercise, you get what you put in though, which is why I'm a huge proponent of "Hardest Difficulty" because if you don't strain, you don't grow.

For the a good example of this critical thinking, just watch a couple of Upbeatglitch's streams. The process of Fail and Iterate-to-success is on display in all its glory.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 06:19:30
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Leviathan.Feint said: »
Can take up exercising or attend/go back to school. Both can take up a lot of your free time. They may not be as fun but are productive at least.

I already have a bachelor's in medicine, and that's my job, I'm talking strictly about free-time... There was a time when I did NOTHING but study 24/7 anyone with a B.S. Can probably relate... but that time is over now, and while I need to do up to a doctorate, sort of running low on ambition, at least at the moment.

Odin.Zicdeh said: »
TL;DR MMO subscription and Other activities are not mutually exclusive.

Unfortunately I see it as they are, if money is being spent on it, I HAVE to play it. That's probably my biggest issue, in that regard anyway. I can't be wasting the money on it, and doing something else instead, it's either/or can't be an "and". I wish I could get past that, but it's a personality flaw.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-12 06:21:43
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Again, personal judgement call. For 15 bucks a month you could play 15 hours the whole month (30mins a day) and you're only paying around 1$ for an hour of entertainment. Try getting that ratio at the cinema.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-12 06:25:45
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Again, personal judgement call. For 15 bucks a month you could play 15 hours the whole month (30mins a day) and you're only paying around 1$ for an hour of entertainment. Try getting that ratio at the cinema.

I suppose you're right, here's what happens every time I try to do that.

I log in, nothing can be done in < hour. can't even do a 10 minute event like an AA, cause the time to farm merits + gather people + wait for the zone to clear etc.

Then well, I'm on... if I don't do a salvage, I just lost 1m, well I did salvage if I don't do a dynamis, I just lost 2m.. now a simple 30 minute log-in turned into a 5 hour wasted day. I would LOVE to be able to log in, and not have obligations. Can't. It's an all or nothing personality disorder. There's no grey area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_%28psychology%29
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By Leviathan.Feint 2014-07-12 06:27:42
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Leviathan.Feint said: »
Can take up exercising or attend/go back to school. Both can take up a lot of your free time. They may not be as fun but are productive at least.

I already have a bachelor's in medicine, and that's my job, I'm talking strictly about free-time...


Master's, rock clibing, hit the gym, gambling, arts and crafts, fishing, volunteer work, play other games and so on. These are just some of the things I've done when not playing ffxi.

Can't imagine someone just sitting around doing nothing after quitting.

Can even spend your entire time arguing with people on ffxiah.com.
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