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 Ragnarok.Jarvick
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By Ragnarok.Jarvick 2014-02-19 05:24:27
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Anyone know if they have fixed the issue where the Trust NPC's completely ignore your fellow? I haven't used my fellow lately, was wondering if hey had changed that.
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By Phoenix.Frankbrodie 2014-02-19 07:14:22
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Gadalar is the first one I'm having to do the actual quests to get.
I had never done any of those quests. So I'm starting at the Saga of the Skyserpent one.

Be nice to actually run around the areas again. With a motley crew of 3 trusts watching my back :)
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By Leviathan.Syagin 2014-02-19 07:38:00
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Ragnarok.Jarvick said: »
Anyone know if they have fixed the issue where the Trust NPC's completely ignore your fellow? I haven't used my fellow lately, was wondering if hey had changed that.
Are you saying that you can't call your NPC when Trusts are out?
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By Leviathan.Tribalprophet 2014-02-19 08:10:22
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Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Ragnarok.Jarvick said: »
Anyone know if they have fixed the issue where the Trust NPC's completely ignore your fellow? I haven't used my fellow lately, was wondering if hey had changed that.
Are you saying that you can't call your NPC when Trusts are out?

Sounds like he's talking about the trust WHMs letting fellows die.
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-19 08:10:54
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Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Ragnarok.Jarvick said: »
Anyone know if they have fixed the issue where the Trust NPC's completely ignore your fellow? I haven't used my fellow lately, was wondering if hey had changed that.
Are you saying that you can't call your NPC when Trusts are out?

I think he means like when Trust NPCs sing songs your regular NPC doesn't get them. Or the Trust NPCs don't cast cures on your regular NPC.

@Jarvick - I'm sorry I haven't tested since the update.
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-19 08:12:14
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Phoenix.Frankbrodie said: »
Gadalar is the first one I'm having to do the actual quests to get.
I had never done any of those quests. So I'm starting at the Saga of the Skyserpent one.

Be nice to actually run around the areas again. With a motley crew of 3 trusts watching my back :)

The quests to acquire Gadalar were very interesting. I rarely read the CS but I found myself really enjoying them. :)
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-02-19 08:28:39
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For the record, I learned the trust spells for Prishe and Ulmia last night without any difficulty.

I have completed CoP and Zilart, and have completed quests "Storms of Fate", "Shadows of the Departed" and "Apocalypse Nigh", which means that my last mission for CoP/Zilart is listed as "The Last Verse".

Has anyone managed to get Prishe/Ulmia without being on "The Last Verse"?
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By Ragnarok.Jarvick 2014-02-19 09:23:05
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Sorry, I meant that the Trust NPC's don't cure your fellow, their songs don't affect your fellow, and even when Kupippi would cast Protectra, it would not affect my fellow. It was like your fellow was non-existent to the Trust NPC's. I haven't tried partying with my fellow since the update. I was just curious if anyone had. I can try it tonight.
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-02-19 09:40:03
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I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction

Seems like a pretty crappy reward for all the work we put into leveling our fellows to 99, plus the fact that they take exp away.
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By Ragnarok.Jarvick 2014-02-19 09:48:25
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Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction

Seems like a pretty crappy reward for all the work we put into leveling our fellows to 99, plus the fact that they take exp away.
Man, what a bummer. That's very disappointing indeed. Definitely makes me not want to level with my fellow. At low levels, it's not a big deal, because even with the experience reduction, you can still level fairly quickly. Faster than my combat and magic skills I might add. However, once you get into the 60's, if you don't leech, it can slow down pretty good. Any kind of reduction just makes it that much worse...

Maybe if enough people complain about it, they will realize we care more about it than they originally thought :D
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-19 10:12:07
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Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction

I apologize but the source you linked shows a response from another player Sylph.Zeargi that says

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As it stands, that's how it works. PUP Automatons won't heal them, I think that SMN can use Wards, but I'm not sure it wasn't because I was in a Rieve

If you could please link to an official response from Camate, Gildrein or Hvinire I would greatly appreciate it.
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By Sieha1 2014-02-19 10:29:44
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Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction

Seems like a pretty crappy reward for all the work we put into leveling our fellows to 99, plus the fact that they take exp away.

Um... they have done this to relics and other hard to get items at the time, why not a foreveralone npc. Except worse, it would be like you couldnt even use your fellow at all.
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By Leviathan.Cuddleslave 2014-02-19 23:42:41
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Even with the emergency maintenance, I still can't get them... guess I gotta get to apoc nigh and beat it...
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-19 23:54:22
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Leviathan.Cuddleslave said: »
Even with the emergency maintenance, I still can't get them... guess I gotta get to apoc nigh and beat it...

Super easy fight ^^
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-02-20 10:02:15
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Valefor.Oxt said: »
Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/ Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction
I apologize but the source you linked shows a response from another player Sylph.Zeargi that says
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As it stands, that's how it works. PUP Automatons won't heal them, I think that SMN can use Wards, but I'm not sure it wasn't because I was in a Rieve
If you could please link to an official response from Camate, Gildrein or Hvinire I would greatly appreciate it.

I posted that link because of the fact that after viewing it in the "accepted bugs" section, it was moved by the admins to the "working as intended" section, implying that at the moment it is, as the section says, working as intended according to SE. Maybe I don't fully understand the official FFXI forums yet, but that's how I interpreted what I saw.
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-20 10:05:31
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Siren.Kentai said: »
Valefor.Oxt said: »
Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/ Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction
I apologize but the source you linked shows a response from another player Sylph.Zeargi that says
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As it stands, that's how it works. PUP Automatons won't heal them, I think that SMN can use Wards, but I'm not sure it wasn't because I was in a Rieve
If you could please link to an official response from Camate, Gildrein or Hvinire I would greatly appreciate it.

I posted that link because of the fact that after viewing it in the "accepted bugs" section, it was moved by the admins to the "working as intended" section, implying that at the moment it is, as the section says, working as intended according to SE. Maybe I don't fully understand the official FFXI forums yet, but that's how I interpreted what I saw.

Oh I see what you mean now ^^ TY
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By Fenrir.Mewgoat 2014-02-20 10:06:52
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Valefor.Oxt said: »
Phoenix.Frankbrodie said: »
Gadalar is the first one I'm having to do the actual quests to get.
I had never done any of those quests. So I'm starting at the Saga of the Skyserpent one.

Be nice to actually run around the areas again. With a motley crew of 3 trusts watching my back :)

The quests to acquire Gadalar were very interesting. I rarely read the CS but I found myself really enjoying them. :)

It was a a nice change of pace, i forgotten how much i had liked the wg content
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2014-02-20 12:25:47
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Perhaps its been reported. But Iron Eater will use "Restraint", and thats what triggers him to build 300% TP for Steel Cyclone. He also uses Berserk, and Provoke if you fall into Orange HP.

He also can hit for ~250-300 Damage on mobs in Foret, hes one of our better DD trusts, Steel Cyclone did ~2k on a Cracklaw (and it died from the hit, so coulda done more).

Just reposting this from my post on BG.
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-02-20 13:09:07
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Valefor.Oxt said: »
Siren.Kentai said: »
Valefor.Oxt said: »
Siren.Kentai said: »
I checked the official FFXI forum in the in-game bugs section and there was a thread started about the fellow/trust relationship. It appears that SE filed it into the "working as intended" section, unfortunately :/ Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39934-Fellow-and-Trust-NPC-interaction
I apologize but the source you linked shows a response from another player Sylph.Zeargi that says
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As it stands, that's how it works. PUP Automatons won't heal them, I think that SMN can use Wards, but I'm not sure it wasn't because I was in a Rieve
If you could please link to an official response from Camate, Gildrein or Hvinire I would greatly appreciate it.
I posted that link because of the fact that after viewing it in the "accepted bugs" section, it was moved by the admins to the "working as intended" section, implying that at the moment it is, as the section says, working as intended according to SE. Maybe I don't fully understand the official FFXI forums yet, but that's how I interpreted what I saw.
Oh I see what you mean now ^^ TY

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By Fallfromgrace 2014-02-20 13:12:21
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Not that its a big deal but is Lion considered a THF and is there any evidence she may have treasure hunter?
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By Asura.Ivykyori 2014-02-20 17:07:08
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
For the record, I learned the trust spells for Prishe and Ulmia last night without any difficulty.

I have completed CoP and Zilart, and have completed quests "Storms of Fate", "Shadows of the Departed" and "Apocalypse Nigh", which means that my last mission for CoP/Zilart is listed as "The Last Verse".

Has anyone managed to get Prishe/Ulmia without being on "The Last Verse"?

I did too, but I was not on "The Last Verse" when I did it. I only went to pick up the last CoP cutscene after the update (I did everything else before). Not sure why some people can get them and others can't.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sirtwitchalot 2014-02-20 18:11:31
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You don't need the last CS. Just have to of completed the battle As I stated on the previous page. The last CS is what changes your mission log to The Last Verse.
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2014-02-20 18:40:51
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Haha, Gadalar is so... strange. He does melee but it's nothing extraordinary and he ONLY uses -ga magic. And only fire-based at that. He managed to kill himself faster then Shantotto. Bravo!
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By Ragnarok.Jarvick 2014-02-21 06:30:54
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Asura.Karbuncle said: »
Perhaps its been reported. But Iron Eater will use "Restraint", and thats what triggers him to build 300% TP for Steel Cyclone. He also uses Berserk, and Provoke if you fall into Orange HP.

He also can hit for ~250-300 Damage on mobs in Foret, hes one of our better DD trusts, Steel Cyclone did ~2k on a Cracklaw (and it died from the hit, so coulda done more).

Just reposting this from my post on BG.

Iron Eater is pretty awesome. So far, he has outdone Ayami and Tenzen damage wise at low level (44). It's nice to have a good DD.
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By Cerberus.Kyka 2014-02-21 19:34:34
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This is the dumbest thing ever for me, since I've been doing macros for 10 years now - but I'm having problems creating a macro for Naja and was wondering if anyone else was too. I've tried the following (the wait is because I have another ego I'm summoning on the next line AND it works with all my other macros)

/ma "Naja Salameem" <me> <wait 16>

/ma "Naja-Salameem" <me> <wait 16>

/ma "Naja" <me> <wait 16>
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-21 19:40:08
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SalaHeem. Spell it with an H, not an M.
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By Valefor.Oxt 2014-02-21 20:15:42
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I wish I could make this very delicious macro

/ma salami <me>

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By Asura.Karbuncle 2014-02-22 19:46:58
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Here's something interesting that may have been reported.

I was on COR, skilling up gun, and i noticed a neat AI in Ulmia.

She would Pianissimo Prelude/Minuet V me after Ballad'ing the group. I think its nice they programmed that recognition into her.
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By Shiva.Gib 2014-02-22 20:11:17
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Phoenix.Gameesh said: »
Haha, Gadalar is so... strange. He does melee but it's nothing extraordinary and he ONLY uses -ga magic. And only fire-based at that. He managed to kill himself faster then Shantotto. Bravo!
Same thing I noticed... I really like him but he'll die *and usally end up taking Kupipi with him* in like 1 min cause he has to GA the hell out of everything.
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