Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Wouldn't Valiant better with all attribute+15?
Corsair 101 - Gear Sets, Atmas, Atmacites
Corsair 101 - Gear sets, Atmas, Atmacites
Wouldn't Valiant better with all attribute+15?
I tend to Chaos/Miser's because 45 TP return is better than 20 TP return. Then I run away and tact myself. As such I use Coercion/Discipline/Slayer.
Tactician's is mosly useless for marched/hasted DDs and I don't prefer to leave town without BRD+COR in both DD parties. The only other option is Fighter's and 4-roll rotation makes my skin crawl >:|
Tactician's is mosly useless for marched/hasted DDs and I don't prefer to leave town without BRD+COR in both DD parties. The only other option is Fighter's and 4-roll rotation makes my skin crawl >:|
Did some testing with Corsair's Tricorne vs. Pandinus Beret for Quick Draw and found Pandinus to out damage the Tricorne until you hit ~80 matk. I've read several times in this post that the +1 Tricorne does +10 base damage up from 5 on the NQ but cant find any information to support this. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Corsair%27s_Tricorne_%2B1 here it states that it's unchanged from NQ. Just curious if anyone can direct me to something supporting that its a damage increase or confirm there own testing on it, thanks.
Sorry if this has already been asked but is the atmacite of the slayer lvl 1 really + 15 fire attack or is that a mistype, don't want to start putting crour into it if it gets worse before it gets better.
would Fire obi add anything to WF?
Asura.Dianabol said: »
would Fire obi add anything to WF?
I believe it only works for magic so I'd say no.
It does work(granted you use it in due conditions).
Quetzalcoatl.Efan said: »
Did some testing with Corsair's Tricorne vs. Pandinus Beret for Quick Draw and found Pandinus to out damage the Tricorne until you hit ~80 matk. I've read several times in this post that the +1 Tricorne does +10 base damage up from 5 on the NQ but cant find any information to support this. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Corsair%27s_Tricorne_%2B1 here it states that it's unchanged from NQ. Just curious if anyone can direct me to something supporting that its a damage increase or confirm there own testing on it, thanks.
Pretty sure someone did this testing a while back here. Pandidus came out on top vs. AF+1 Tricorne (sadface), but Blood Mask with QD -2 or more comes out ahead of that, even, assuming you're using it on the timer.
Asura.Dianabol said: »
would Fire obi add anything to WF?
Elemental Obis and the Windurst WoTG ring both have an effect on elemental weaponskills. Anything that your fire affinity from the Vulcan's Staff effects, so do the obis/ring.
would it be worth getting? or using over?..aquiline?
Yes, when there's fire weather/day/storm, obi is the best choice(and you should always have firestorm on, so..)
ive never had firestorm lol...didnt think of that
Should always ask your whm to give it to you! :o
thx for that lol
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[pre][b]Damage Summary[/b] [u][b]Player Total Dmg Damage % Melee Dmg Range Dmg Abil. Dmg WSkill Dmg Spell Dmg Other Dmg Absorbed Dmg[/u][/b] Aeldas 1683 0.83 % 0 0 0 0 1683 0 0 Akamatzu 15988 7.93 % 7406 0 33 8549 0 0 0 Arcenvy 13927 6.90 % 7188 0 0 6731 8 0 0 Clardux 32441 16.08 % 6395 0 0 26046 0 0 0 Daleterrence 40782 20.22 % 7948 0 0 32834 0 0 0 Fondue 24549 12.17 % 8313 0 340 15896 0 0 0 Gobub 27700 13.73 % 11584 0 0 16116 0 0 0 Jasper 2788 1.38 % 0 0 0 0 2788 0 0 Lightvdarkness 1605 0.80 % 0 0 0 0 1605 0 0 Miips 3585 1.78 % 0 0 352 3233 0 0 0 Shuiyin 7361 3.65 % 6038 0 0 1323 0 0 0 Tamoa 26957 13.36 % 8685 0 0 18272 0 0 0 Wildfang 325 0.16 % 36 0 0 289 0 0 0 Garuda 1636 0.81 % 723 0 913 0 0 0 0 SC: Detonation 93 0.05 % 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SC: Fragmentation 290 0.14 % 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [b]Total 201710 100.00 % 64316 0 1638 129289 6084 0 0[/b] [b]Melee Damage[/b] [u][b]Player Melee Dmg Abs'd.Dmg Net Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.HR % M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M+0.Avg M-0.Avg[/u][/b] Akamatzu 7406 0 7406 46.32 % 66/2 97.06 % 97.06 % 4/232 73.31 73.31 Arcenvy 7188 0 7188 51.61 % 109/15 87.90 % 87.90 % 16/130 52.22 52.22 Clardux 6395 0 6395 19.71 % 35/3 92.11 % 92.11 % 117/229 163.13 163.13 Daleterrence 7948 0 7948 19.49 % 57/1 98.28 % 98.28 % 73/187 127.90 127.90 Fondue 8313 0 8313 33.86 % 81/5 94.19 % 94.19 % 51/126 84.90 84.90 Gobub 11584 0 11584 41.82 % 25/2 92.59 % 92.59 % 208/612 335.13 335.13 Shuiyin 6038 0 6038 82.03 % 71/7 91.03 % 91.03 % 0/62 36.07 36.07 Tamoa 8685 0 8685 32.22 % 32/0 100.00 % 100.00 % 144/287 221.56 221.56 Wildfang 36 0 36 11.08 % 4/1 80.00 % 80.00 % 0/20 9.00 12.00 Garuda 723 0 723 44.19 % 15/7 68.18 % 68.18 % 39/52 48.20 48.20 [b]Melee Crit Damage[/b] [u][b]Player #Crit C.Low/Hi C-0.Avg Crit%[/u][/b] Akamatzu 21 12/780 195.57 31.82 % Arcenvy 15 70/322 151.93 13.76 % Clardux 5 248/329 300.20 14.29 % Daleterrence 5 233/306 259.40 8.77 % Fondue 19 121/187 160.47 23.46 % Gobub 9 477/1051 691.33 36.00 % Shuiyin 29 57/502 155.97 40.85 % Tamoa 7 376/487 449.43 21.88 % Wildfang 0 0/0 0.00 0.00 % Garuda 0 0/0 0.00 0.00 % [b]Weaponskill Damage[/b] [u][b]Player WSkill Dmg Abs'd.Dmg Net Dmg WSkill % Hit/Miss WS.Acc % WS.Low/Hi WS.Avg[/u][/b] Akamatzu 8549 0 8549 53.47 % 8/0 100.00 % 10/4142 1068.63 - Brainshaker 112 0 112 1.31 % 1/0 100.00 % 112/112 112.00 - Seraph Strike 10 0 10 0.12 % 1/0 100.00 % 10/10 10.00 - Shining Strike 16 0 16 0.19 % 1/0 100.00 % 16/16 16.00 - Skullbreaker 135 0 135 1.58 % 1/0 100.00 % 135/135 135.00 - True Strike 320 0 320 3.74 % 1/0 100.00 % 320/320 320.00 - Victory Smite 7956 0 7956 93.06 % 3/0 100.00 % 1875/4142 2652.00 Arcenvy 6731 0 6731 48.33 % 5/0 100.00 % 811/1642 1346.20 - Blade: Hi 6731 0 6731 100.00 % 5/0 100.00 % 811/1642 1346.20 Clardux 26046 0 26046 80.29 % 11/0 100.00 % 1662/2934 2367.82 - Tachi: Shoha 26046 0 26046 100.00 % 11/0 100.00 % 1662/2934 2367.82 Daleterrence 32834 0 32834 80.51 % 15/0 100.00 % 823/3338 2188.93 - Tachi: Shoha 32834 0 32834 100.00 % 15/0 100.00 % 823/3338 2188.93 Fondue 15896 0 15896 64.75 % 12/0 100.00 % 880/1971 1324.67 - Requiescat 15896 0 15896 100.00 % 12/0 100.00 % 880/1971 1324.67 Gobub 16116 0 16116 58.18 % 6/0 100.00 % 1433/3695 2686.00 - Ukko's Fury 16116 0 16116 100.00 % 6/0 100.00 % 1433/3695 2686.00 Miips 3233 0 3233 90.18 % 4/0 100.00 % 507/1198 808.25 - Last Stand 2234 0 2234 69.10 % 3/0 100.00 % 507/1198 744.67 - Wildfire 999 0 999 30.90 % 1/0 100.00 % 999/999 999.00 Shuiyin 1323 0 1323 17.97 % 1/0 100.00 % 1323/1323 1323.00 - Evisceration 1323 0 1323 100.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 1323/1323 1323.00 Tamoa 18272 0 18272 67.78 % 8/0 100.00 % 1430/3078 2284.00 - Resolution 18272 0 18272 100.00 % 8/0 100.00 % 1430/3078 2284.00 Wildfang 289 0 289 88.92 % 2/0 100.00 % 52/237 144.50 - Black Halo 52 0 52 17.99 % 1/0 100.00 % 52/52 52.00 - Flash Nova 237 0 237 82.01 % 1/0 100.00 % 237/237 237.00 [b]Ability Damage[/b] [u][b]Player Abil. Dmg Abs'd.Dmg Net Dmg Abil. % Hit/Miss A.Acc % A.Low/Hi A.Avg[/u][/b] Akamatzu 33 0 33 0.21 % 1/0 100.00 % 33/33 33.00 - Chi Blast 33 0 33 100.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 33/33 33.00 Daleterrence 0 0 0 0.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 0/0 0.00 - Blade Bash 0 0 0 0.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 0/0 0.00 Fondue 340 0 340 1.38 % 3/0 100.00 % 68/136 113.33 - Fire Shot 340 0 340 100.00 % 3/0 100.00 % 68/136 113.33 Miips 352 0 352 9.82 % 2/0 100.00 % 160/192 176.00 - Fire Shot 352 0 352 100.00 % 2/0 100.00 % 160/192 176.00 Garuda 913 0 913 55.81 % 1/0 100.00 % 913/913 913.00 - Predator Claws 913 0 913 100.00 % 1/0 100.00 % 913/913 913.00 [b]Spell Damage[/b] [u][b]Player Spell Dmg Abs'd.Dmg Net Dmg Spell % #Spells #Fail S.Low/Hi S.Avg #MBurst[/u][/b] Aeldas 1683 0 1683 100.00 % 9 0 0/983 187.00 0 - Aeroja 983 0 983 58.41 % 1 0 983/983 983.00 0 - Anemohelix 57 0 57 3.39 % 1 0 57/57 57.00 0 - Bio 0 0 0 0.00 % 2 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Bio II 49 0 49 2.91 % 3 0 3/31 16.33 0 - Drain 0 0 0 0.00 % 1 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Firaja 594 0 594 35.29 % 1 0 594/594 594.00 0 Ambrus 0 0 0 0.00 % 5 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Dia 0 0 0 0.00 % 5 0 0/0 0.00 0 Arcenvy 8 0 8 0.06 % 2 0 4/4 4.00 0 - Raiton: Ni 4 0 4 50.00 % 1 0 4/4 4.00 0 - Raiton: San 4 0 4 50.00 % 1 0 4/4 4.00 0 Jasper 2788 0 2788 100.00 % 5 0 23/883 557.60 0 - Firaga III 453 0 453 16.25 % 1 0 453/453 453.00 0 - Firaja 883 0 883 31.67 % 1 0 883/883 883.00 0 - Flare II 686 0 686 24.61 % 1 0 686/686 686.00 0 - Stone III 23 0 23 0.82 % 1 0 23/23 23.00 0 - Tornado II 743 0 743 26.65 % 1 0 743/743 743.00 0 Lightvdarkness 1605 0 1605 100.00 % 4 0 136/603 401.25 0 - Aero IV 554 0 554 34.52 % 1 0 554/554 554.00 0 - Aeroga 136 0 136 8.47 % 1 0 136/136 136.00 0 - Aeroga II 312 0 312 19.44 % 1 0 312/312 312.00 0 - Aeroga III 603 0 603 37.57 % 1 0 603/603 603.00 0 Maddin 0 0 0 0.00 % 4 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Dia II 0 0 0 0.00 % 4 0 0/0 0.00 0 Minovsky 0 0 0 0.00 % 7 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Dia 0 0 0 0.00 % 7 0 0/0 0.00 0 Nanabi 0 0 0 0.00 % 15 0 0/0 0.00 0 - Dia 0 0 0 0.00 % 15 0 0/0 0.00 0 [b]Skillchain Damage[/b] [u][b]Skillchain SC Dmg Abs'd.Dmg Net Dmg # SC SC.Low/Hi SC.Avg[/u][/b] SC: Detonation 93 0 93 1 93/93 93.00 SC: Fragmentation 290 0 290 1 290/290 290.00 [/pre]
opinions on cor melee? I personally love requiescat D: and dislike shooting expensive bullets, was on qilin just now and my ws set can still use a good bit of improvement
cor/war with sanus
Ew.
Just cause the other cor was doing terrible damage it doesn't mean going melee with Requies is better :/ you can pump way higher numbers with WF and LS using proper sets. Even your fire shots are very low, overall you lose a lot of damage in favour of lazyness and cheapness. Not recommended.
Just cause the other cor was doing terrible damage it doesn't mean going melee with Requies is better :/ you can pump way higher numbers with WF and LS using proper sets. Even your fire shots are very low, overall you lose a lot of damage in favour of lazyness and cheapness. Not recommended.
Played correctly it mgiht not be the worst strategy ever conceived, but I wouldn't do it personally over appropriate ranged attacking.
Edit: Could come down to your merit ws choices too. If you're on Corsair for your group's benefit, on a mob that Wildfire is weak, and don't have Last Stand because you prioritize other jobs/weaponskills, it could potentially be your best option.
It'd certainly be better than rolling and going afk the way some corsairs seem to do.
Edit: Could come down to your merit ws choices too. If you're on Corsair for your group's benefit, on a mob that Wildfire is weak, and don't have Last Stand because you prioritize other jobs/weaponskills, it could potentially be your best option.
It'd certainly be better than rolling and going afk the way some corsairs seem to do.
I wasnt using asetics drinks and I've just got some new qd gear I didnt add to spellcast yet so half the slots werent even switching, I should have done 1 fight shooting and wfing but I've never been too impressed with LS on cor in vw.. only seems to do well for me in dynamis, acc is not too good in vw even with potaufeus and stalwarts
wf is very good and thats what I usually do, but meleeing on cor can still be pretty competitive imo with very good gear (thaumas)
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I've merited and demerited last stand like 3 times now vs exenterator and requiescat.. gonna end up dropping it for good soon for entropy and keep entro/shoha/requiscat
wf is very good and thats what I usually do, but meleeing on cor can still be pretty competitive imo with very good gear (thaumas)
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I've merited and demerited last stand like 3 times now vs exenterator and requiescat.. gonna end up dropping it for good soon for entropy and keep entro/shoha/requiscat
Do you not have a ranged TP set or something?
Last Stand is very good on some specific mobs. Qillin is one of them.
Most situations where Wildfire is weak, Last Stand is worth using, and the inverse generally holds true as well.
I've never found this to be a problem on anything where melee'ing would become a better option. Especially with a sword.
Most situations where Wildfire is weak, Last Stand is worth using, and the inverse generally holds true as well.
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acc is not too good in vw even with potaufeus and stalwarts
I've never found this to be a problem on anything where melee'ing would become a better option. Especially with a sword.
Well, my average Wildfire is 2800, on Qilin my average Last Stand is 3800, and that's without using curry either.
Same goes for outside VW, did ADL the other night and decided to use LS instead of WF, damage went up by almost 2k, and I was subbing sam then!
Only time I would debate avoiding Last Stand would be on Legion cause it's kinda dangerous, but still the difference in damage is rather big.
Same goes for outside VW, did ADL the other night and decided to use LS instead of WF, damage went up by almost 2k, and I was subbing sam then!
Only time I would debate avoiding Last Stand would be on Legion cause it's kinda dangerous, but still the difference in damage is rather big.
I'm pretty terrible for thinking this way, but with very few exceptions (Fjalar), the difference between Last Stand and Wildfire isn't enough to make me want to shoot Orichalcum Bullets.
Then again, I'm high maintenance, so I nearly always have Boost-AGI, Firestorm, and Double AGI etudes so my wildfires pack quite a punch :|
I use it so infrequently that I'm considering demeriting it so that my Mjollnir will have Realmrazer with which to play.
Then again, I'm high maintenance, so I nearly always have Boost-AGI, Firestorm, and Double AGI etudes so my wildfires pack quite a punch :|
I use it so infrequently that I'm considering demeriting it so that my Mjollnir will have Realmrazer with which to play.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I'm pretty terrible for thinking this way, but with very few exceptions (Fjalar), the difference between Last Stand and Wildfire isn't enough to make me want to shoot Orichalcum Bullets. Then again, I'm high maintenance, so I nearly always have Boost-AGI, Firestorm, and Double AGI etudes so my wildfires pack quite a punch :| I use it so infrequently that I'm considering demeriting it so that my Mjollnir will have Realmrazer with which to play.
Yes. You are.
Sad panda.
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Ew. Just cause the other cor was doing terrible damage it doesn't mean going melee with Requies is better :/ you can pump way higher numbers with WF and LS using proper sets. Even your fire shots are very low, overall you lose a lot of damage in favour of lazyness and cheapness. Not recommended.
Last Stand tears the face off things in Dyna-Xarc, ADL included, way more than Wildfire. I use Wildfire on Invincibling paladins and that's about it.
Wildfire sucks in Dyna-Xarc, then again, I've only been in Dyna-Xarc on COR twice.
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I'm pretty terrible for thinking this way, but with very few exceptions (Fjalar), the difference between Last Stand and Wildfire isn't enough to make me want to shoot Orichalcum Bullets. Then again, I'm high maintenance, so I nearly always have Boost-AGI, Firestorm, and Double AGI etudes so my wildfires pack quite a punch :| I use it so infrequently that I'm considering demeriting it so that my Mjollnir will have Realmrazer with which to play.
Yes. You are.
Sad panda.
It's not like I'm just standing around!
Then again, I have virtually no reason to do ever do any VWNNM below Jeuno T4 again, so that may bias my opinion on the usefulness of Last Stand.
yeah wildfire in dynamis is straight up ***compared to buffless requiescat even, and getting buffs I'll do 2k easy spikes higher
the way my group does adl I get no buffs besides the 2 rolls I put on the dd party and sometimes I'll embrava myself, so I have done a few good ls on it but generally any time I get near adl I get raped so I'll do maybe 1 ls per fight... I assist on all the other stuff though nq dl/nms/farming pops and I feel like meleeing is 110% more effective than trying to shoot for tp on mobs real dds are smashing in 10 seconds
the way my group does adl I get no buffs besides the 2 rolls I put on the dd party and sometimes I'll embrava myself, so I have done a few good ls on it but generally any time I get near adl I get raped so I'll do maybe 1 ls per fight... I assist on all the other stuff though nq dl/nms/farming pops and I feel like meleeing is 110% more effective than trying to shoot for tp on mobs real dds are smashing in 10 seconds
Sure shooting on fodder mobs is absolutely useless. After we kill ADL I end up just rolling and stand there looking pretty while others farm.
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Then again, I have virtually no reason to do ever do any VWNNM below Jeuno T4 again, so that may bias my opinion on the usefulness of Last Stand.
Must be nice.
Pretty sure Mirnen and I have blown right past "statistical anomaly" on some mobs and barreled right into populating "What-the-f***ville."
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Sure shooting on fodder mobs is absolutely useless. After we kill ADL I end up just rolling and stand there looking pretty while others farm.
The few times I've done COR in dynamis, I bothered to bring my melee set because I'm ADD and can't sit still.
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