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By fonewear 2017-04-27 09:02:43
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Pretty soon words will be too offensive to use and we will get by on grunts and clicks !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 09:05:54
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fonewear said: »
Pretty soon words will be too offensive
We are already at that point.

Haven't you been to any liberal colleges as of late? The attacks on free speech is astonishing.

All in the name of feels.
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 09:53:03
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
fonewear said: »
Pretty soon words will be too offensive
We are already at that point.

Haven't you been to any liberal colleges as of late? The attacks on free speech is astonishing.

All in the name of feels.

The left owns 95% of the assault on the first ammendment. Trump should send in the fire hoses to Berkeley.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 09:59:53
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The students are just champions taking a stand against hate speech ideas that cannot be tolerated in their thin bubble.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-04-27 10:15:47
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.

Cutting taxes for the wealthy is always touted as an economic stimulus ala Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand"... but history shows us it never succeeds.

Wealthy no, business's yes.

The problem is Liberals, like yourself, have absolutely no way to distinguish between those two groups. In your crusade to punish those evil wealth-hording scourges, you end up also punishing all the people who are forming or running business's that hire people and drive the economy. You end up shooting off your own arm in your attempts at social justice.

Face it, evil wealthy Bond villains are smarter then you, much smarter. They are so smart that they've long since discovered how to mobilize an army of minions to do their bidding and fight against their competition at wealth hording, your part of that army. Any attempts at bleeding or hurting those evil wealth-hording Bond villains will do absolutely nothing but further impoverish yourselves and further the goals of those same evil villains you pursue with fanatical fervor.

Funny thing, President Trump was once part of that cabal of evil wealthy overlords, he fully supported the Democrat party whenever it was politically advantageous, and then supported the Republicans when it fit the moment, all like the opportunist he is.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 10:34:13
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Uh oh, Trump's approval rate is starting to rise!

<insert The Economic Denier's denial of polls ever meaning much>
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 10:44:17
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
It's still the lowest approval rate for a president within his first quarter.

Pretty sure carter's was lower

are you sure?

not that that is saying much LOL
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 10:55:39
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I think we'll see a definite shift in approval rating sometime around next April if Trump's tax plan gets through mostly intact. The middle class seeing their standard deductions doubled is money in the wallet, which is doing more for the middle class than they've seen in a long time.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 10:57:42
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Uh oh, Trump's approval rate is starting to rise!

<insert The Economic Denier's denial of polls ever meaning much>

It's still the lowest approval rate for a president within his first quarter. So I'm not sure what you are trying to brag about.
Wait, you call that bragging?

All I'm doing is pointing out that one of the arguments a certain economic denier makes on a constant basis is being invalid. Then again, it always have been invalid.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 10:57:53
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Insulting platitudes, gross misattributions and references to fictional caricatures asides... historically speaking depressions and recessions in 20th Century America have been preceded by policies that promote cutting taxes. Examples being Mellonomics, Reaganomics and G.W.Bush's EGTRRA & JGTRRA.

If you guys really believe what you say, then you must answer, why the years where the New Deal policies predominated were so prosperous, where as the years dominated by trickle down models (Mellon 20's, Reagan 80's, Bush 00's) have been characterized by financial instability.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 10:58:30
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I think we'll see a definite shift in approval rating sometime around next April if Trump's tax plan gets through mostly intact. The middle class seeing their standard deductions doubled is money in the wallet, which is doing more for the middle class than they've seen in a long time.
Add that with a tax cut for the middle class.
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By Zerowone 2017-04-27 11:07:13
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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It's still the lowest approval rate for a president within his first quarter.

Pretty sure carter's was lower

are you sure?

not that that is saying much LOL

Still a better lowest approval than Nixon and Truman.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:08:12
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I heard Grover Cleveland had good approval ratings...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 11:09:01
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
why the years where the New Deal policies predominated were so prosperous, where as the years dominated by trickle down models (Mellon 20's, Reagan 80's, Bush 00's) have been characterized by financial instability.

world war two... is what actually brought prosperity to the us

the early years of the new deal were also called the great depression and the 37-38 recession within the depression

37and38 recession
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 11:10:02
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Zerowone said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
It's still the lowest approval rate for a president within his first quarter.

Pretty sure carter's was lower

are you sure?

not that that is saying much LOL

Still a better lowest approval than Nixon and Truman.

yeah...also not really great horns to blow
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 11:10:02
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DHS announces office for victims of illegal immigrant crime

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Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly announced on Wednesday the official launch of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s office for victims of illegal immigrant crime, and a program to help track the custody status of violent, illegal perpetrators.

ICE’s Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement Office (VOICE) was created in response to President Trump’s executive order to enhance public safety, which directed the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to support victims of crimes committed by criminal aliens.

“All crime is terrible, but these victims are unique — and often too ignored,” Kelly said on Wednesday. “They are casualties of crimes that should never have taken place — because the people who victimized them often times should not have been in the country in the first place.”

Kelly outlined objectives of VOICE, including a “victim-centered approach” to support victims and their families, along with promoting awareness of available services to crime victims, such as the new automated service, DHS-Victim Information and Notification Exchange, which was created to help victims track the immigration custody status of those illegal alien perpetrators of crime.

According to DHS, ICE community relations officers will serve as “local representatives” to share information with victims regarding the enforcement and removal process of illegal aliens. According to DHS, ICE has 27 victim-assistance specialists across the country who possess a “high degree” of specialized victim-assistance expertise and training.

“ICE is employing a measured approach to building the VOICE office — meaning that it intends to expand the services VOICE offers in the future,” DHS said in a statement on Wednesday. “This approach allows the office to provide immediate services to victims, but will also allow the agency to collect metrics and information to determine additional resource needs and how the office can best serve victims and their families moving forward.”

Let's see if any democrats/liberals automatically attack this. Nothing says "we care about people" like attacking an agency that helps victims of immigrant-related crimes.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 11:11:08
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What's interesting is that Trump is up 5% in average favorability ratings from where he was at on election day.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:13:58
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Simpsons approval ratings are terrible but it too was once great...
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:16:00
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 11:16:10
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fonewear said: »
I heard Grover Cleveland had good approval ratings...

I hear Groper Cleveland has YUGE approval ratings.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:18:42
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Trump brings in the ratings though. You think Jeb Bush would get people to watch CNN I think not !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 11:22:33
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fonewear said: »
Trump brings in the ratings though. You think Jeb Bush would get people to watch CNN I think not !

Well, that depends. Whatever channel you happen to be watching Jeb Bush on would get great ratings because you can't change the channel when you're asleep.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:28:03
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CNN gets ratings cause it is on 24/7 at airports barber shops and anywhere in public. I remember my old barber had it on all the time.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 11:32:45
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fonewear said: »
CNN gets ratings cause it is on 24/7 at airports barber shops and anywhere in public. I remember my old barber had it on all the time.

I'll glance at it if it's on in public. I don't know if it's coincidence or not, but the programming I happen to catch is always so bad that I can't imagine watching it at home.

BREAKING NEWS:
We found a random guy who voted for Trump who is willing to say on camera that he doesn't like him anymore. Stick around while we hype the story for two hours.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 11:37:25
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You mean two weeks.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 11:39:33
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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why the years where the New Deal policies predominated were so prosperous, where as the years dominated by trickle down models (Mellon 20's, Reagan 80's, Bush 00's) have been characterized by financial instability.

world war two... is what actually brought prosperity to the us

the early years of the new deal were also called the great depression and the 37-38 recession within the depression

37and38 recession

I could buy that argument that the Recession of 37-38 is solely due to end of New Deal spending or that things like the FDIC, FCIC, FHA, SSS and SEC don't provide stability and prosperity for Americans and it was all due to winning WWII... but I won't,
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-27 11:40:32
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Nausi said: »
That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.
How are you defining economic activity?
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