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By eliroo 2017-04-26 16:48:50
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In brighter new :

http://www.newsweek.com/american-sanctions-russia-wont-be-lifted-until-crimea-returned-ukraine-says-588849


Rex Tillerson seems to be doing kind of what I thought he would do. I feel like a lot of people were quick to shame him but he has a solid record and his ties to Russia were simply business related. I will still remain a bit skeptical about him but nice to see he is taking his job seriously.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-26 16:51:37
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eliroo said: »
I feel like a lot of people were quick to shame him
Of course, he was picked by The Evil Oneā„¢.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-26 17:02:52
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
It lightens the load on their wallets?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-04-26 17:04:45
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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are you gonna *** at trump every time he brings obama up or blames him for something?
Other than spying on him, what has Trump blamed Obama for?
what hasn't he blamed him for? hes still got lots of time in office to put things on him when things don't go as he may expect them too...

Theres some truth to it all too... there were things bush contributed to *** up as well as obama and you can call em out on it... there comes a point I. Your term/s as president or any office really where you do start having to own your own ***...

so back to the original question... are you going to *** about trump blaming Obama or no?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-26 17:11:15
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Well gang, the time has come to bend over, put your head between your legs, and kiss your net neutrality goodbye.


FCC Chairman Ajit Pai Unveils Plan to Kill Obama-Era Net Neutrality Rules

NBC

The Republican Plan to Nuke the Internet, Revealed
Activists are already gearing up for a fight to save net neutrality from the F.C.C.

Vanity Fair
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-26 17:17:24
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
what hasn't he blamed him for?
Um....that's why I'm asking you.

Candidate Trump blamed Obama for every/anything. President Trump, other than the spying bit, hasn't blamed Obama on anything (that I have seen).

Obama, on the other hand, had blamed Bush for every/anything under the sun, before AND during his presidency. He also blamed Republicans and practically everyone that doesn't agree with him on every/anything.

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so back to the original question... are you going to *** about trump blaming Obama or no?
Depends on what he is blaming Obama about. If Trump blames Obama for signing Obamacare, well, that's true and accurate blame.

If Trump blames Obama for taking too many golf vacations, well, I'll just call Trump a hypocrite.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-04-26 17:28:19
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Just last week Trump blamed Obama for allowing MS-13 to form in America. He also blamed Obama for the chemical attack in Syria. Blaming their predecessor is what they all do.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-26 17:31:57
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Just last week Trump blamed Obama for allowing MS-13 to form in America. He also blamed Obama for the chemical attack in Syria. Blaming their predecessor is what they all do.
Eh, you are right, I forgot about those two.

He also blamed Obama for ISIS.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-26 18:05:58
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Just last week Trump blamed Obama for allowing MS-13 to form in America. He also blamed Obama for the chemical attack in Syria. Blaming their predecessor is what they all do.
Obama's* deportation polices led to MS-13 being exported to central and south America. But the man who wants to be the deporter in chief will probably never call that one.

*And Bush II's also.
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 05:57:22
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 06:00:51
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?
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Nausi said: »
So if we were to accept you're premise and revenues double irrelevant of tax rates, what is the harm in lowering taxes?
It's the unidentified blogger's premise and not mine, but it's more complex than you're making it out to be. Of course, revenue will continually go up as revenue sources increase and just emphasizes the need for a more standardized measure to control for that. Simply saying it doubled within a certain time frame is an incomplete statistic.

The other flaw was that ALL revenue is considered in that argument so increased revenue attributable to tax increases in other areas are conflated with effects of tax decreases. Basically, it's more complicated than taxes go down, revenue goes up, which most logically-minded individuals would conclude.
The ea but the argument is always wrong axes go down - economic activity goes up (which is the thing that is taxed)
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 06:38:38
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Nausi said: »
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Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?

It sure as hell isn't influence...The Democrats don't control jack ***.
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 06:39:41
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That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 06:40:13
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?

It sure as hell isn't influence...The Democrats don't control jack ***.
Not until Michelle runs for senate...
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 07:57:20
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?

It sure as hell isn't influence...The Democrats don't control jack ***.

Sure they do minorities feminism etc !
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 07:58:13
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Nausi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being paid for a speech is helping bankers out how exactly?
What do you think they're buying exactly for 400k?

It sure as hell isn't influence...The Democrats don't control jack ***.
Not until Michelle runs for senate...

Being the first lady doesn't qualify you for government just ask Hillary !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 08:09:49
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Nausi said: »
That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.

Cutting taxes for the wealthy is always touted as an economic stimulus ala Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand"... but history shows us it never succeeds.
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 08:15:07
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Nausi said: »
That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.

Cutting taxes for the wealthy is always touted as an economic stimulus ala Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand"... but history shows us it never succeeds.
It always succeeds. You are just promoting the democrats revisionist history.

The only card they have left. Once trump passes tax reform and the economy takes off, libs will have no shot at election. Think about it, if tax reform isn't gonna work, if it was such a disaster, why would the democrats block it? They should let it go so they can win the biggest landslide ever in 18 and 20.

But they aren't. It's because they know it works and the cannot let that happen.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:15:10
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Please God no more tax discussion or King will come here with his tax forms...
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:18:14
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We could always do the Bernie tax plan 80% of your income taxed so everyone is poor !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 08:22:12
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fonewear said: »
Please God no more tax discussion or King will come here with his tax forms...
Please fill this out in duplicate, using only black ink, and pay the required deposit of "one arm and one leg"



You have until the end of the day to turn in your paperwork, or you will face the penalty of two toes and a pinky.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:25:26
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Just help the Middle Class the rich and poor already don't pay taxes...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 08:26:59
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Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Nausi said: »
That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.

Cutting taxes for the wealthy is always touted as an economic stimulus ala Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand"... but history shows us it never succeeds.
It always succeeds. You are just promoting the democrats revisionist history.

The only card they have left. Once trump passes tax reform and the economy takes off, libs will have no shot at election. Think about it, if tax reform isn't gonna work, if it was such a disaster, why would the democrats block it? They should let it go so they can win the biggest landslide ever in 18 and 20.

But they aren't. It's because they know it works and the cannot let that happen.
Also, economic deniers (and apparently free market deniers too) seem to forget that this economic model has worked for the greater part of 300 years. Even with all of the economic downturn (which those economic and free market deniers seem to focus all of their energy on), the economy has shown to be much stronger in a capitalistic society than any other society in history.

Liberals/democrats want to go back to serfdom, since that model of ruling has shown to be effective at keeping the masses uneducated into thinking that some outside force will save them from their horrible lives (aka the government), not realizing that it's that very outside force that's keeping them at the level they wish to improve on. You can even see it today with poverty (welfare programs today, touted by the democrats/liberals, actually increase poverty and dependence than it does to bring people out of poverty).
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:28:08
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The liberal tax policy is about feelings not economics... I feel the rich should be punished...and the poor should be helped. And they are neutral on the Middle Class.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:31:33
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We have so many incentives to be poor that I don't know why they want to move to the middle class...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 08:32:37
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fonewear said: »
And they are neutral on the Middle Class.
Naw, they just reclassify them as the rich and punish them twice.

Once for not being in the minority class (check your money privileges!) and another for not being lockstep with the liberals/democrats (what do you mean you have a savings account? You know that's illegal according to the Book of Gore!)
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 08:33:34
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/367820/incentives-matter-fighting-poverty-jennifer-marshall
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 08:51:54
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fonewear said: »
Sure they do feminism!

oh yeah the all powerfull feminist cabal... I forgot about them and their iron fisted grip on... the...

pretending they aren't getting laid by choice since the 19th century

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 08:52:52
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 09:01:41
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Fat is now body positive we just keep moving the goal posts !
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