Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm pretty sure nobody else talks about things they have even a clue about 2% of the subject here!
....except me, cause I'm awesome like that.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm pretty sure nobody else talks about things they have even a clue about 2% of the subject here! ....except me, cause I'm awesome like that. For me*
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » eliroo said: » Clearly, though, my knowledge on the subject is limited well don't let that stop you from posting about it.... >.> However, we're veering wildly off the topic/point which was that minimum wage was never designed to be the wage for a single income earner to support a family of four... it's economic suicide to try to make that happen. Well when I am wrong, I will simply learn! I also agree with that, but about single income for one person shouldn't that at least provide them with food and shelter? eliroo said: » .... Maybe putting tax money into infrastructure and hiring the less fortunate to those jobs while providing them temporary lodging and food. Quote: Also didn't our tax money end up paying for Wall Streets poor planning?... Shiva.Nikolce said: » eliroo said: » Clearly, though, my knowledge on the subject is limited However, we're veering wildly off the topic/point which was that minimum wage was never designed to be the wage for a single income earner to support a family of four... it's economic suicide to try to make that happen. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » What are we talking about today fam? Trumps new favorability numbers? His EPA pick? Or the Obama goodbye tour? Garuda.Chanti said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » What are we talking about today fam? Trumps new favorability numbers? His EPA pick? Or the Obama goodbye tour? Eh, I'll bite. Let's see what the favorability numbers are at now... Oh wait, this just in, the media has now confirmed that 50% of Americans are racists. Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'll bite Offline
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Garuda.Chanti said: » Look up the history of the WPA. Quote: It was liquidated on June 30, 1943, as a result of low unemployment due to the worker shortage of World War II. The WPA had provided millions of Americans with jobs for eight years. It seemed like it was really effective. Asura.Kingnobody said: » 3) The general public - At the end of the day, these decisions were made by people who had to have known that they couldn't reasonably afford the mortgage payments. Nobody held a gun to these people's heads and forced them to make these loans. The bad decisions started with these people, and it's these people who were bailed out. Offline
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » That would be the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLBA). Read up on it and then ask yourself if the: "Clinton repealed Glass Steagle 'narrative' is entirely accurate?". I spent a good chunk of my afternoon reading through various articles about GLBA and Glass-Steagall. Most articles don't have conclusive reasons as to why GLBA would have caused the financial crisis but another act came up called CFMA of 2000 which is more closely attributed to the fall. Very interesting stuff and though I don't grasp all of it, I at least have a better understanding. And please remember that while Clinton signed those measures into law, they passed the house and senate with broad bipartisan support after massive lobbying campaigns.
Beware of broad bipartisan support. Garuda.Chanti said: » And please remember that while Clinton signed those measures into law, they passed the house and senate with broad bipartisan support after massive lobbying campaigns. Beware of broad bipartisan support. So very true. NAFTA is another one that we often hear the sound bytes being solely attributed to Clinton. When in reality all he did was sign the bill after it passed both the House and Senate with bi-partisan support. Also we seem to conveniently forget, (or simply have no desire for historical accuracy), that Presidents and Prime Minister: George H.W. Bush, Carlos Salinas de Gortari and Brian Mulroney spearheaded the agreement. Garuda.Chanti said: » And please remember that while Clinton signed those measures into law, they passed the house and senate with broad bipartisan support after massive lobbying campaigns. Beware of broad bipartisan support. Who said that this was a democrat or Republican-only issue? Election update:
Michigan is 100% done Wisconsin is nearing completion of their recount, with Trump's lead pulling ahead. Pennsylvania hearing scheduled for tomorrow. Florida attempting to do a recount to Trump's 112,000 vote win by 3 'concerned citizens' but more than likely the court won't hear their argument before the deadline on December 13th to certify the electoral votes. Texas rogue elector Suprun is facing the threat of being replaced by his state as per regulation and law that electors MUST vote according to the popular vote. This would mean that he will either be replaced, or be fined 1,000 dollars for deviating. Has anyone ever talked to someone for a long time then find out on Facebook that they're a 9/11 truther and you start to wonder if you've ever truly known anyone in your life? It's weird.
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Garuda.Chanti said: » And please remember that while Clinton signed those measures into law, they passed the house and senate with broad bipartisan support after massive lobbying campaigns. Beware of broad bipartisan support. Let me know when Hillary is President then I'll care ! Offline
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Or Bill for that matter !
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Has anyone ever talked to someone for a long time then find out on Facebook that they're a 9/11 truther and you start to wonder if you've ever truly known anyone in your life? It's weird. The struggle is real. The All-Seeing Eye can't melt steel beams, Karen.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Has anyone ever talked to someone for a long time then find out on Facebook that they're a 9/11 truther and you start to wonder if you've ever truly known anyone in your life? It's weird. There are just some folks that go too far, which is why most of us are in agreement that no matter how wildly we disagree, people like LG are problematic and borderline unsafe. Moon landing hoaxers, Sandy Hook and 9/11 truthers, Vaccination/autism nutjobs... Look, we all suffer from confirmation bias at times. Every one of us. But for people like this it's off the charts. Ramyrez said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Has anyone ever talked to someone for a long time then find out on Facebook that they're a 9/11 truther and you start to wonder if you've ever truly known anyone in your life? It's weird. There are just some folks that go too far, which is why most of us are in agreement that no matter how wildly we disagree, people like LG are problematic and borderline unsafe. Moon landing hoaxers, Sandy Hook and 9/11 truthers, Vaccination/autism nutjobs... Look, we all suffer from confirmation bias at times. Every one of us. But for people like this it's off the charts. So, instead, just do this and moveon.org Asura.Kingnobody said: » That's why you can't debate with them. So, instead, just do this and moveon.org YouTube Video Placeholder ..not yet
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Trump apparently attack the Steelworkers Union leader after he called him out: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/08/im-the-union-leader-donald-trump-attacked-im-tired-of-being-lied-to-about-our-jobs/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.b1e72942e3f8
Despite understanding why he got elected, I still can't stomach that people actually like Donald Trump.
I can see (not agree with, but understand) the "anyone but Hillary" thing, or wanting to be represented and feeling Hillary nor anyone else did that as well as DT. But...DONALD TRUMP. Jesus. The Manbaby of the Century. Thin-skinned, bullying, womanizing, orange-skinned, flabby-jowl, *** awful hairpiece, celebrity, conflict-of-interest, caricature-of-everything-wrong-with-rich-people-and-celebs-all-in-one Donald Trump. I reiterate what I said when his campaign began being taken seriously. It's like voting for the cast of Jersey Shore or one of the Kardashians into office. Forget politics. Forget economics. It's an existential embarrassment to humanity that this man is now, barring anything truly insane, going to be the most powerful individual in the world. So pass the *** whisky because there's no telling the depths of human depravity we're about to see on a global stage.
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