August Version Update Dat Mining And Discussion

Hitting the dog with a newspaper

So, these new Skirmish weapons... Unless something incredible comes from augments they don't look too impressive for 119s, as many people have noted.

But considering they come from Rala/Cirdas, would anyone really be surprised if the next phase of Skirmish is a new Alluvion Yorcia Weald, where you can upgrade 119 Alluvion weapons to +1? And potentially then a Ra'Kaz for +2 in the same model as original Skirmish? Possibly even end up with item levels higher than 119 by the time that happens...

In any case, I'm sure as hell not wasting gil on random augments (even if you can influence the augment for melee/ranged/magic/pet by type of stone) for gear that I'm very suspicious will be revamped in a few updates.

Checking the weapons, seems like a sidegrade from skirmish, being the only advantage (suposing augments have same range, what isnt by any mean verified, just speculation) the fact you can avoid some augments, so reducing the randomness of the augment process.

That said, i dont expect yorcia alluvion will have +2 gear, and probably not even a better gear, but if anything, a similar gear but with more control of augmetns, what it seems to be the new skirmish premise, by adding several new stones.

So, odds are, if you have a perfect otronif or hagondes, most likely a possible yorcia alluvion wont obsolete that, but give other players a better chance of good augments.

I do think SE is done updating the Skirmish 1.0 weapons/armor, but this Alluvion Skirmish seems like a nice reset point to give new gear in the exact same sequence as original Skirmish.

Rala/Cirdas: Base weapons
Yorcia: Weapons +1, Base armor
Ra'Kaz: Weapons +2, Armor+1

Who knows, maybe these take us into 120s item levels in the coming months, along with reforged Empy armor and other new items.

As for appearance: if they do add new armor sets for future stages of Alluvion Skirmish, I've seen a theory that is pretty compelling to me. New Skirmish armors could use the model from the black set of the old Ebur/Ebon/Furia (White/Black/Red) models. Legion points armor reused the white set, Skirmish 1.0 armor used the red set. The black set showing up again fits with the kind of logical progression the current dev team seems to like, and with the planned re-use of existing resources.

They also might have learned some lessons from the original Skirmish/Delve/Bayld release about staggering content to make us progress on the devs' intended "path" through content levels...

That's weird cuz I can see it on my end ;/

While the pic in your post doesn't show the full pic, idk why ;/

I got broken pics on my end.

anyone know what im supposed to give arciela after i trade ygnas resolve to castle gates?

I didn't copy the name, but the macc+15 one is snow something +2, rattk+1 one is something NQ. Rest are +1. I think the name affects the type of the augment, NQ/HQ affects augment potency.

Book from the library.

I am disappoint

I seriously doubt those necks will lose the Reive restriction without taking a mega nerf, especially because you can solo SoA from start to finish in like a day and solo all the BCNMs with trusts, even the new one. Also don't you think having WS DMG+25% would be a little ridiculous? Especially for jobs where it would benefit most, like SAM with their Overwhelm traits and 1-hit WS whereas jobs with multihits wouldn't benefit much with it only working on the first hit.

If it benefits SAM, it'll probably get buffed.

Might see +5% WSD or something like that and in Reives 25%. etc.

This avatar reversal has me all out of sorts.

Based purely on the description for Alluvion Skirmishes provided by the SE version update post, is anyone else reminded of Nyzul Isle?

Randomly generated floors
Random objective to clear the floor
Return to the start of the floor to proceed to next floor
etc...

Like I said, based purely on their own description of the event. I hope it feels vastly different though.

I agree... WotG final reward is STILL the best WS earring for most jobs and that's just TP bonus +250. These buffs will stay reive only.

With stuff like these necks and the excellent reive stats on Bayld 117 weapons, that does help ease WKR difficulty as less people do the event and players get better gear, making it consistent with S-E's intent of making content more accessible over time.

So far, no comments about the new swapping system.

So what combo do you need to make the skirmish enterence? i got sach and shield yesterday

can it be solod with trusts well?

Just speculation at this point, but considering the gear gained from the new Skirmishes start at iLvl 119 (meaning they are likely the stepping stone to higher levels of gear), I highly doubt they could be soloed just yet. And the update notes said you add the new skirmish parts (sword, etc) to old ones (visage, etc) to make the new KIs.

because the idea isn't new ;) and console players aren't on this site, for the most part ;)

each stone has different uses is what i found it. someone posted it on BG wiki too.

here is what he posted, my tests are also making this sound valid.
Keraunos

Snowslit Stone +1
Attack +16
Attack +8
DEF +7
Attack +9
DEF +14
Attack +8
Accuracy +2
Attack +14
Accuracy +7
Attack +9
DEF +10
Accuracy +5

Leafslit Stone +1
Waltz potency +4%

Snowtip stone +1
Evasion +18
Rng.Atk.+15
Rng.Atk.+6
Evasion +14
Evasion +1
Rng.Acc.+7 & Rng.Atk.+7
DEF +2
Rng.Acc.+7 & Rng.Atk.+7

Leaftip Stone +1
Rapid Shot +5
Snapshot +5
Store TP +3

Snowdim Stone +1
MAB +10
MAcc +3
Macc +13
Attack +2
Rng.Atk.+3
MAB +3
Rng.Atk.+1
MAB +3

Snowdim Stone +2
MAcc +14 & MAB +14
DEF +16

Snoworb Stone +1
Pet: M.Eva+2
Pet: DEF+1

Leaforb Stone +1
Pet: Haste+4
Avatar Perp-3
Pet: Haste+1

I theorize:
- that you can only stack 1 snow and 1 leaf set of augments on any give weapon
- that snow- augments are main stats like acc/atk/racc/ratk/mab
- that leaf- augments are more unique stats like waltz/da/haste/fc
- each set of slit/tip/dim/orb have a higher chance to target the augment you want (slit=melee,tip=ranged,dim=mage,orb=pet) but can give you augments from any other pool at a low % as well

It saves me 2-3 times of hitting macros, so I'm digging it. The thing about it equipping from all the locations (but only actually from your main inventories while in the field) is kind of stupid though.

Liking the TP display for pets more. After years of incorporating a <pettp> into my tactical switch macro though, it'll take me some time to get used to not hitting that. Kept using it after changing it when the one thing i want to know is just staring at me now. :I

Also the new auto translate for "Tactics: Please use a weak weapon to attack."

So so.
Maybe if one can max out a pair of augments the weapon can be apealing, but for sure, if one stay in halfway to top, prob it will remain lackluster.
And maxing out an augment=rivers of cash.
So far, pretty bad this new weapons. Just waiting for shields or instrument to bring anhthing new to table.

Izuna Katana:

Leaftip NQ - Store TP 2
Leaftip +1 - Store TP 4

Snowtip NQ - Evasion +3
Snowtip +1 - Racc 3

Leafdim +1 - Store TP 1
Snowdim +1 - Macc 3

Snowslit +1 - Attack 2

Snoworb +2 - Pet: Att 18, Ratt 18

i think weapons pretty bad *** myself, being able to control what type aug is awesome waiting a +2 stone on Pet mab on a armor that cant use pet jobs is stupid whe you want straight up mab.

same for pup being able to get pet aug instead of magic acc or some other deal

Glad to see unique art assets are still being wasted on shitty weapons. I guess FFXI hasn't changed all that much.

Can't decide between Adoulin's Refuge or Ygnas's Resolve +1.
Torn between that -8DT and 25%WSD mainly with respect to WKRs.

Twilight torque already has 5% DT on it... 25% WSD is *** insane

so no -delay augment found yet? very disappointing...

My opinion is that they were gonna use those models for new rem-like weapons, but somehow they gave up on that.
I remember reading an official post stating that they were trying to get rid of the rem paradigma, so maybe that's why.
Or perhaps they are getting upgrades that will bring them to rem levels, we'll see.