[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
Good posts Dan, and I would love to see the Koga in the right hands. It would absolutely wreck with aftermath up.
Honestly, if SE would've nerfed it 6 months ago like that should have people wouldn't be so upset. Now, it's hard to blame people for being upset.
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LMFAO @ all the QQing ..been a DRK feels good to see others QQ XD
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Misery loves company.
This is why we can't have nice things.
This is why we can't have nice things.
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Anyone know how bad this is going to gimp Ukko's? Ukon is my next emp in progress, maybe I should stop and do Bravura instead. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks~
Gimp ukko's, I guess is more useful than bravura anyway.
I have a simple solution to everyones problems.
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gimp war, time to level real life :(
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Asura.Dajociont said: »
gimp war, time to level real life :(
Sound advice for many.
I don't think Ukon will be that gimp but face it you got whats coming. Those two weapon skills are very damn strong out of their current status. Why do you people whine whine over 2 weapon skills? I prefer the game balanced then having jobs that are doing so much damage. It's unfair to the other jobs. But I can't change that because people always whine when a nerf comes.
two jobs? haha all jobs can be over powered if you gear them right... i take it you havent seen cor or bst 1 shotting under brew? or how quad cont. can do 2-3k? or sch two hour just owns? you dont see them nerfing that ***
khidafi916 said: »
two jobs? haha all jobs can be over powered if you gear them right... i take it you havent seen cor or bst 1 shotting under brew? or how quad cont. can do 2-3k? or sch two hour just owns? you dont see them nerfing that ***
hmmm...
khidafi916 said: »
two jobs? haha all jobs can be over powered if you gear them right... i take it you havent seen cor or bst 1 shotting under brew? or how quad cont. can do 2-3k? or sch two hour just owns? you dont see them nerfing that ***
Brew? >.> That doesn't really count. Sch 2hr is 2hr nothing wrong with that which won't last long. 2-3k damage from Blu isn't overpowered. They can easily burn through MP if they spam from what I seen. Victory Smite/Ukko's Fury do substantial damage with their repsectful Empys. War can get TP extremely fast if their attacked alot by melee's.
khidafi916 said: »
excuse me while i herp
np
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Hey guys have you seen my drk 1 shotting while under brew? it's awesome drk is gonna pick back up as the best dd again! My rdm was sexy as *** when brewing too.
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Well I have had my Ukkon for 6 months. And have enjoyed the buffs since they came out. If I they were so over powered, why wait so long to nerf them?? I bought all there expansions. Even the stupid ones. My bill has never late. Why punish me , or people like me. If I have read everything correctly it is not just a little nerf. But a large one over all.
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Bahamut.Danthebk said: »
I would also like to point out, that Ukko's is only a standout weaponskill because of the extra crit rate. Assuming the same crit rate and typical (ukkos) ws gear outside of Abyssea:
rr = 204 * 3.4 * 2.5 = 1734 * 1.22 = 2115
ukkos = 241 * 3.4 * 2.5 = 2048 * 1.22 = 2499
oldUkkos = 241 * 3.4 * 2.9 = 2376 * 1.22 = 2899
I am, of course for simplicity, assuming the same 10% crit rate of RR and 100% TP, as well as a pretty weak 105 mob. This is just a quick estimate as well, a more in-depth analysis would distort this.
So roughly a 14% nerf to Ukko's if it's reduced to the same crit rate as RR? I hate this game.
rr = 204 * 3.4 * 2.5 = 1734 * 1.22 = 2115
ukkos = 241 * 3.4 * 2.5 = 2048 * 1.22 = 2499
oldUkkos = 241 * 3.4 * 2.9 = 2376 * 1.22 = 2899
I am, of course for simplicity, assuming the same 10% crit rate of RR and 100% TP, as well as a pretty weak 105 mob. This is just a quick estimate as well, a more in-depth analysis would distort this.
So roughly a 14% nerf to Ukko's if it's reduced to the same crit rate as RR? I hate this game.
An unreliable source on the official forums claims to have recorded his damage on the test server and claims there's a 15% decrease, aka 10% crit rate at 100tp, aka 2-hit raging rush. But he didn't include sample size or provide significant proof of his claim, so I can't confirm if that's the case or not.
Post-nerf WAR, assuming 10% crit is correct. Didn't account for anything except for the difference in crit rate.
Ukko's 99:total damage per round:4389
dps:285
Ukko's 95:total damage per round:4088
dps:265
Ukko's 90:total damage per round:3923
dps:255
Ukko's 99:total damage per round:4389
dps:285
Ukko's 95:total damage per round:4088
dps:265
Ukko's 90:total damage per round:3923
dps:255
it was hard enough leveling sam to 66 by using polearm and prettending my wyvern was dead for a hat that aside from a few blu spells is all but useless
Im surprised no one has posted up the Rangers converting into blackmage pic, shopped with warriors converting into Sams now. You know its whats going to happen to so many people.
ragequitting forever
Bithor said: »
I can kind of understand the nerf on Ukko's critical bonus but.....
I woulda posted my version of this pic but it's against the rules on FFXIAH D:
Bahamut.Danthebk said: »
Post-nerf WAR, assuming 10% crit is correct. Didn't account for anything except for the difference in crit rate.
Ukko's 99:total damage per round:4389
dps:285
Ukko's 95:total damage per round:4088
dps:265
Ukko's 90:total damage per round:3923
dps:255
Ukko's 99:total damage per round:4389
dps:285
Ukko's 95:total damage per round:4088
dps:265
Ukko's 90:total damage per round:3923
dps:255
What does all of this mean in English?
Uh, it sounds like Ukko's Fury got dropped to 10% Crit Rate?
That's... a lot lower than I expected even. I was guessing 15%-20%
I wonder if this implies that JR will also be getting the nerf gun. Very interesting.
That's... a lot lower than I expected even. I was guessing 15%-20%
I wonder if this implies that JR will also be getting the nerf gun. Very interesting.
Remember the RNG & NIN nerf way back? When they added positioning to ranged attacks and made you lose enmity when you lost a shadow?
I'm pretty sure every RNG in the game quit.
I'm pretty sure every RNG in the game quit.
It wasn't just that what they did man.
Before a RNG was able to pop a 1.5k Slug Shot with a freaking Dog Bolt lol.
That's why they quit, because it wasn't just a distance issue. They completely revamped the damage RNG did, they nerfed it and murdered it. With correct distance, you were able to get *close* to the damage you did before, but never at it or near it.
The Ninja nerf was painful, because a lot of Ninja's main tanked. Lacking personal enmity tools it hurt the job, then the /DRK /RDM nerf also hurt the job further pushing it further away from tanking at all.
It reduced Ninja to a pretty horrid selection as a tanking job. Ninja didn't really get tanking rights again till Abyssea.
Yeah though, so many people quit. They hated it, things were so expensive I knew friends who pumped millions into RNG then. Woosh, out the window.
Before a RNG was able to pop a 1.5k Slug Shot with a freaking Dog Bolt lol.
That's why they quit, because it wasn't just a distance issue. They completely revamped the damage RNG did, they nerfed it and murdered it. With correct distance, you were able to get *close* to the damage you did before, but never at it or near it.
The Ninja nerf was painful, because a lot of Ninja's main tanked. Lacking personal enmity tools it hurt the job, then the /DRK /RDM nerf also hurt the job further pushing it further away from tanking at all.
It reduced Ninja to a pretty horrid selection as a tanking job. Ninja didn't really get tanking rights again till Abyssea.
Yeah though, so many people quit. They hated it, things were so expensive I knew friends who pumped millions into RNG then. Woosh, out the window.
Yeah, I know all about it. I wasn't mocking it, it was a really terrible nerf, but the logic behind the game mechanic of placement of the ranger and was sound.
RNGs were still the best DDs around when I was leveling PLD, which, for the most part, was after the nerf. It took me years to get 75, probably hold the record for the slowest ever. And as you can see I have no other max level Jobs besides WHM which was Abyssea burned. It was sad they were so rare in the first place due to firing gil at enemies, and then that happened. SAM in its glory days (until post-65/70 merit style PTs) didn't nearly compare. But it was still sad to see them all disappear.
RNGs were still the best DDs around when I was leveling PLD, which, for the most part, was after the nerf. It took me years to get 75, probably hold the record for the slowest ever. And as you can see I have no other max level Jobs besides WHM which was Abyssea burned. It was sad they were so rare in the first place due to firing gil at enemies, and then that happened. SAM in its glory days (until post-65/70 merit style PTs) didn't nearly compare. But it was still sad to see them all disappear.
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