Relic/Mythic/Empyrean 99 Trial Items

I know, but people keep saying they rather it be kept like this so every person can't get it done etc. Fact of the matter is, hardly anyone will ever get a mythic done, so putting absurd requirements on finishing the weapon is stupid as hell considering they're already the most difficult/time consuming items to get in the entire game by a landslide.

99 Empy. Not happening for me!!

Dont feel bad 95 empy weapon not happing for me im not even tring to do it.

If it is an unreasonable number, maybe SE is relying on this:


to make things go faster.
That, along with the fact that you buy it (it isn't rare/ex), it isn't a totally far-fetched idea to believe that it will be a pretty high number.

You will note that those "2 years" was 7 hours a week, for two years.

That's spending 1 hour out of every 24 on a relic.

To just build the *pops* for the new trials you need to spend *24 hours* out of every 24, for four years.

That means it takes about 50 times longer than old relics did, in terms of actual time people have to put in.

Anything over 10 PW drops is insane. That *still* equates to 2 years of 7 hours a week, or the same time commitment of a classic relic.

I am about a third of the way done with 95 Ukko's. In a year or 2 I may even be done!!

lol u fewell obviously u need 2 use 8 accounts so you can finish in 6 months lololnoob

I want to believe that the test server trial list was a factor of 100 inflated over what they were actually considering, but it's SE.

There a difference between being to buy all the items and farming items. Buying is a lot faster to do than collecting items. Yes it took people 1-2 years to build relics. It also took a lot of people a lot less than that if they had gil. If I wanted to do something that took awhile, I would have done mythic.

I don't see why SE doesn't give the option to throw gil at something to get something done faster. After all, relics cost gil to build.

You people....

It's still needed to be 4 years of constant time being worked towards pops by anyone to get one mythic to 99.

I really, really, really don't get what's hard to see about the current trial being completely absurd.

As Foldypaws said, that's not even casual farming like relics and all other weapons with forced time sinks (limited amount of time you can do x event per x amount of time). That's devoting every hour your of time nonstop, 24/7/365 for four years.

There is no reasonable logic behind that. Putting the trial at a high amount is saying "*** you, you will never have your mythic be level 99".

And people thought plates were bad...

Maybe they'll be adding PW keys as rewards from the new Nyzul/Salvage.

Marrow - Confirmed to drop off Arch DL. Rubby has one in Bazaar.

Swear to god, better not be more than 5 for the trial.

Can someone tell me what/where the new weather geodes drop? I'm talking about Garudite etc. There is nothing on wiki about how to get them, and no comments on this site under the item that is of any use.

I figure they will be quite difficult to get hence why I want a head start lol.

They drop under the same conditions as geodes.From all the xp parties and stuff I've seen,geodes drop on a 2:1 likelyhood as oppose to the new ones

I really don't get why everyone thinks SE will lower the number. They didn't for plates, they wont for this.

We are at 99 now, and this is end game. Instead of giving us GOOD content worthwhile and fun to do, they will give us endless time sinks.

Because Relics/Mythics have done their share of grinding for items. Empyreans haven't.
While we may be at about the end of the game, they're only going to bring about the end of the game sooner by ticking the playerbase off. Granted, it's their game and they want to make more money from it, but all things should be considered which would keep most people happy and still wanting to play it.

People seem to forget. Its SE.

In their mind, if you want the "final" form of your weapon, any of the 3, they feel like you should work for it.

While its crazy to want this much, its what people have been crying for "get rid of easy mode! we want hard mode, pre-abyssea again!"

Careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

Yeah... I could easily see them thinking that, unfortunately.

This is just an idiotic mind set.

How can you even try to defend this one or see it "Their" way.

Arch Dynamis Lord requires: 1 Rarity Drop from NMs, the Bijou.

Then it requires FIVE pop items which also come from NMs.

That implies you need to kill, 5 NMs. After killing god knows how many regular monsters for pop items, simply to get more pop items, then to kill one of the hardest monsters in the game. You can probably kill one, once every day. Assuming you have a substantial group to take him down, that's going to want to do this 1,000 times.

So let's say you can get a group to kill it once a day, that's 1,000 days regardless. So, relic's didn't take you 3 years to make you say!? Think again new people!

It's absolutely ridiculous.

You can't even compare this to plates, people do VW on a regular basis. The market is filled with plates. Who does Arch DL shouts every day enough to flood the market to even be allowed to pay 100k for one? No one.

You think whoever gets 1, is going to sell it for 100k?

Do I think its right? Not really.

Do I think SE thinks its right? Ofc.

You all wanted hard mode and things to mean something again. There you go.

This is going to backfire on them HARD. Even people this doesn't directly affect will be turned off by the sheer sadism of these trials if they remain as is.

I realize SE wants completed ultimate weapons to be rare and special, and in that these trials will surely succeed. But, is a time sink that hardly anyone participates in really a time sink? I think by doing this, SE will end up shortening more subscriptions than they lengthen. At some point you have to let the donkey catch the carrot. Once he knows he can't, he won't be there to pull you along anymore.

I really do hope the 1000, 500 for relics and mythics on the test server are just place holders for trials.... because honestly if it is 1000, then I'll just keep my level 95 relic, and SE can *** themselves.

This trials arent hard man this trials are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE... there's no way someone can do that many Arch DL and or PW... I'm an hardcore player, but im not *** going to partecipate in a so nonsense trial... I would rly prefer to slay down 10k mobs with mercy stroke or catastrophe...
There is a great difference between an hard trial and an impossible one... noone will even try to do it cause it is a sick trial.

Arch Diabolos may be "harder" by some definition, but any competent group is going to have a better clear rate against Diabolos than Arch DL. DL is basically a shell game, pick the wrong copy and you lose.

pictures of baby fafnir mobs in abyssea tahrongi, never expire, give ~100 per plate
*edit fafnir not fenrir, ty XD

You mean fafnir? :x

i am not happy about these trials, however, these are the ultimate end game weapons! level cap isn't going to rise from lvl 99 (at least not for a very very long time) these are the best of the best, your suppose dt ospend the next few years or more to do these. this is hard, this is how ffxi shoudl be, not everyone shoudl be walking around with a glowy weapon.... i am sad tho i'm looking at 2+ years farming alexandrite, and 2+ years spamming pandemonium warden.. bleh