Relic/Mythic/Empyrean 99 Trial Items

It will be absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE if it's Arch DL or Diabolos kills and is anything more than 10 items. There are far too many relic owners and these fights simply take too many man hours to complete.

Even if its only 5 or 10 needed, there needs to be other ways to get it. All the trials up to this only required 2-3 people at most, then bam 18 people and maybe you might win and get a possible drop for 1 person.

Hell I will take 10mil xp with weapon equipped and 10000 Killshot WS.

Should only be 1

Really it's all speculation at this point. I remember people throwing a *** temper tantrum over Yibegan trials so I highly doubt it's only going to be those NMs (then again it is SE). It might be something that has a chance to drop from many nms? Maybe mythic item bags will drop from Neo Nyzul bosses. It's really all speculation at this point.

Well, if they're the new top-tier weapons... Old Dynamis took 18-36 people 3+ months to build a weapon for just one person, and that was if drops were plentiful. I can see the dev team thinking that 1-2 years is reasonable for a person wanting to cap their relic/mythic/empyrean. It is, after all, the last ditch time sink to keep advanced players in the game between updates.

They can kiss my ***. I am old school that did the 10000 Killshot Trials before they made it super easy for the lazy people.

Pretty much this.Everyone is still in the abyssea mindset.Remember when relics took 2 years,not 2 months? When those 2 years involved taking 20+ people into dyna,and not just 2 people,one of which was your dual box.Bring back the 18+ man linkshell,bring back the helping people in your LS upgrade their top tier weapon for the good of the linkshell without everyone being focused on just themselves!!!

I agree with you in part. I had way more fun, and a better sense of "family" with 18 man runs. The problem was that 6-7 of my "daddies" ran away with all our money and a relic to a different server. The "help the linkshell instead of help themselves" would be great if the old way worked that way either. Dynamis relics are to your conceptual linkshell event as communism is to lenin's vision of a socialist republic: it sounded good on paper but the implementation was ALWAYS shitty.

as much as i want a nice beefy 99..they shud keep it as is, why should ppl have it so easy now-a-days getting these ultimate weapons, when before relic and mythic took a good effort or tons of gil. I know it's suppose to be a gameflow change or whatever, but were to spoiled, anyone who thinks not, imo, is just to new to the game to understand that.

I wish you had a clue of what you talking about...

They are all confirmed VW drops.

I worded myself poorly so I can understand what you're saying.What I was getting at was if someone went to all the effort to make a relic (not just an LS leader or LS sponsored dyna relic) but they went through the (back then) grueling stages of completing a non sponsered relic,then surely the LS at the time could have spared a run or two to get them their attest,or frags,or a couple of trial items,or another event day or something for some other reason they might have needed it for an upgrade for the sake of it benefitting the LS.And like you said,yes,the idea of it all is great,but people get greedy and so those people cant really fit into the "help the LS,not themselves" category.

For example,I have PLD and an almost completed Burtgang.Now if I was a main tank (and not even an LS leader/sackholder) back in the day with my completed Burtgang,that I completed majorily by myself,would it be wrong of me to ask the LS to help out with X kills/items (assuming its only a small amount) to improve my sword to benefit my tanking for the LS? Or would it be wrong if they did that for me once the info came out without me even asking?

The problem here is the new mindset Abyssea brough to the game.Now now now and lowman,lowman,LOWMAN!! Back in the day big LS's were 30+ strong,with members being there for years on end and mostly having gear to reflect that.Now a days LS's are 4-12 people (dont even get me started on mules/dual boxes) and "tenured members" are what, 2? 4 months? With the old system (both game and LS) in place,a person thats been there consistantly for 6 years might be entitled to a little more help.I'm not saying spam 1000 PW's or 1000 Diabolos' for them back to back to back to back,but surely they deserve a little bit more help than someone in a new school LS thats been around for 6 months.People want the best of both worlds from the old/new reward/gameplay/linkshell systems.Sadly,they cant have it and most end up bitching and rage quitting an LS after 2 months.

Its not an attack or anything,but I just have a vision of how an LS should be run,sadly I've yet to be in an LS that remains that way (was in one for a while,but after abyssea came out,people changed)

Sigh maybe I should go back to running an LS,was the only way I could get that ideal LS back then.

Edit: Put in that big 3rd paragraph

I dunno about the DL trials, but (IF and thats IF because its speculation) the mythic trials are 500 PW drops, then *** SE.

T those saying we need to suck it up and just deal, were just abyssea crybabies and crap, you obviously dont even understand what they are asking for.

To get 500 PW pops, i have to turn in 10 pics for zeni EVERY hour of EVERY day for over FOUR YEARS. That is just to get the zeni. Not killing the T1/2/3/4/PW. Not farming 355,000 Naul pictures just to HAVE them to turn in for over 4 years. Thats not creating a group 500 times to kill PW for drops that have no benefit to anyone (obsolete lv 75 crap) JUST to get a 99 mythic. Heaven forbid you forget the arduous task of MAKING a mythic lv 75 version in the 1st place.
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If this (100% speculation about trials) is accurate, then this is far beyond "crybaby abyssea babies" wanting things handed to them on a silver plater. Over 4 years of 24/7 no sleep, no work, no family/friends trial to make 1 stupid weapon lv 95>99 is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

This is not so much a rant against SE because this is speculation and hasnt happened. SE is dense. They arent THIS dense to make a mythic trial of this absurdity. This is a rant against people that jsut say suck it up you abyssea crybaby. Ive been playing for 7 years. 500 PWs is NOTHING like anything at lv 75 so dont use that as some twisted justification for something THIS absurd.

Think about what the entire process involves before just pointing the abyssea baby finger.

Perspective people. Perspective.

Yh... 500 is way too much lol. Even atm the process of getting a mythic is long enough. unless they pimp out ZNM drops noone is even gonna get members to do this event.
Too bad it aint april fools :S

1000 VWNM drops: ok
1000 (potential) Diabolos/DL (please no arch dl -.-) drops: mmmmm *** :/
1000 PW drops: *** that SE *** that so hard. I dont plan on a mythic but that's just not cool to anyone having one unless they completely change how to pop ZNM


sidenote: I used to taker pictures of flowers in sea for zeni that doesn't expire back at 75. what are people doing now for it and how many points per plate?

Im all for bringing back some content for big LSes and all that jazz. What I am not for, is creating large LS's to spam the same crap for years with no benefit to anyone but a single member. I would have to have a group to farm pics, turn in for zeni, spam through T1-4 ZNMs, then still get to gether over 500 times to kill PW. For ME.

What kinda messed up LS is that? There is no gear for members. There is nothing for them to gain except to bask in the light of MY mythic for a couple years while we work on it. All the gear is obsolete. At least dynamis could pretend to be for the people by giving easy access to loads of AF armor for its members.

I am completely for re-introducing alliance style events. I am not for forcing relic/mythic/empy owners to take advantage of and use large numbers of people for their own gain with nothing in return for the effort of the group as a whole.

Killing 75 cap crap for years for 1 persons lv 99 weapon at lv 99 does not a good LS make.
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Naul in aby tahrongi. (Mini fafnirs).
They give 100+ a plate every day. I generally get 101-102. Never seen above 102.

I am ok with the 1000 count, but not the fact it requires 18 people to kill the mob that drops the item. If it is something that 6 people can do then thats fine, but I can't see wasting an alliance of people for one relic....1000 times!

The exact same can be said for dynamis. The mobs that these items are speculated to drop off of are not at this time "low-manable" (2-3people) (and i could be wrong... Maybe at 99 they are) so you would have to have a LS worth of people to farm these with very little to gain since most of the gear and even most of the new +2 gear is completely worthless.

Not to mention the fact that just like znm there is a limiting time factor. You can only enter dyna 1x per day so if you can manage to farm 2-3 pops per day with 18 people every day it is still going to take the better part of a year to complete just 1 weapon. Now if you can Con or Convince 17 other people to do that for you then I guess that's awesome but I couldn't even imagine asking people for that. It's hard enough to run dynamis every day when you are building a relic for yourself.

Only time will tell but at this point it looks as tho my wife's and my relics will be 95 forever :(

It's just completely *** unrealistic for them to expect anyone with a semblance of life and fairness would make a linkshell do 1000 fights that inhibit their ability to make gil, and only benefit a single person. Assuming the relic item drops from arch Diabolos or some other arch NM anyways. PW can likely be 6manned, but the sheer amount of time it would take to build 1000 sets is enough to easily build every single person helping you their own mythic instead. Will be quitting in a heartbeat if these take anything beyond 50 kills to finish a weapon.

^ This and if 95>99 is some really stupid trial that's probably the last straw for me.

I feel really sorry for the people who did those trials pre-nerf. I got really lucky and my LS at the time ended up finishing my Mandau like 1 week after the change. The guy who's Amano we finished like 3 months before finished his trials only a few days before >.< I felt really bad laughing at him when my trials were done in like 10 days. >.>


Not bad enough to stop me though!!! :D

Just because you two had the time to grind 10,000 WS doesn't mean the majority of the player base did. It got made easier. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Don't go chastising the rest of the players just because for a time period you had no personal life and were able to grind down 10,000 WS lol.

That being said, the speculations for these trials are unreal. They are obviously going to change them, instead of making it 1000 PW kills and the like.

The way I see it, SE was trying to separate the Hardcore players from every Tom, ***, and Harry that has a Relic/Mythic/Empyrean nowadays. I guess they did a good job because I forsee a lot of people leaving them at 95 with a trial like this. Some might quit but that's a bit over the top I think. I consider myself a Hardcore -1 player. I play A LOT (too much), but something like this I will never do. I would probably never even do 1500 Heavy Metal Plates. I'm glad Aegis to 95 is cake, that's where mine will be staying. I wonder if that Afterglow is anything worthwhile or just a visual effect lol.

For the Relic 99 items I'm putting my money on the Arch Dynamis Lord. I mean, Relic 75 was completed in Xarc with the Animated Weapons/Necropsyche. 80/85 were Dynamis City Bosses. 90 was Beaucedine Attestation NMs, and 95 was Animated Weapons again. Seems only right that 99 would finish in Xarc with the hardest NM there, Arch DL.

On the plus side, I should be able to get the PW atma a lot easier now lol.

You guys don't seem to understand that it is basically impossible to get that many PW done.

I don't understand what's hard to grasp about turning in 10 naul plates every single hour for 4 or 8 straight years without missing a single in game day.

Which is why it will be changed if in fact, that is the trial.

I'm hoping that they make it more realistic but I would much rather see it be a rediculous grind on my own time. Asking for a ton of people to help me (or anyone else for that matter) just doesn't seem right.

I dont expect this to be something that should be able to be completed in days, weeks, or possibly even months but for crying out loud I should at least be able to do it on my own time without asking many others to suffer for my gain alone.

I would be content with either mass WS killing, or something in the realm of 1-10 drops from those NMs, not anything HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE like 1000.