Kraken Club?

Let me preface the following by saying that RNG is my favorite job and I am usually biased toward it, but not in this case.

First off, any decent gun with last stand is going to destroy Gandiva, especially when you don't have access to full-time potency. So your argument should read, "Yet to see any jobs better suited for kill all floors than annihilator/armageddon RNG. Armageddon might actually be better than annihilator since you have access to wildfire for things like flans/mousse.

Secondly, I have a hard time believing a job without any AoE capacities would be better suited for a kill all floor than a job like a BLU (AoE spells) or WAR (Fell Cleave).

Thirdly, unless you have enough haste to counteract the 10% slow (not sure if this works exactly like slow), and have enough accuracy such that you can use red curry buns, I can pretty much guarantee that KC RNG will not out-damage a regular pew pew RNG in voidwatch. The constant influx of dusty wings works against KC RNG as well, as you don't need to shoot for TP as often as you would otherwise.

Also of note is that you cannot /war if you are using a KC as double attack will slow down the club considerably (if double attack procs then the 2-8 will not proc). Thus you lose berserk as well. So, you are essentially losing: red curry (150 attack), velocity shot (+15-20% attack with emp body), and berserk (+25% attack). You might as well throw the loss of minuets in here as well considering that you'll probably need march to overcome the velocity shot delay.

To conclude, it's a fun toy, and completely useless. Well, not completely useless I suppose, if you are a diehard RNG and must go RNG to nyzul no matter what. Just make sure you have a BLU for sudden lunge... Like I said, I love RNG, but I wouldn't hold my group back by sticking to personal preference.

Edit: I'm actually willing to admit that armageddon + kc might work well in nyzul since wildfire is not affected by such a major loss of attack. I've never heard of anyone doing this though, but I may have to give it a try sometime. You could mow through the amorphs pretty quick I would think.

Not really sure how you can beat Ukon/Ragna WAR, Ragna/Apoc DRKs, Amano/Koga/Masa SAMs or even OAT DRGs with Kraken RNG in Neo Nyzul.

First tp gain is kinda less important there since Embrava regain and pause between mobs. It also means that am2 and am3 will be up sometimes because regain will put you at 300TP after every non combat floor.

Sure you will be doing WS a little faster but its nowhere near to make up for giant loss in TP phase.

Kraken club on a ninja viable? Self darkness sc with blade hi seems rather impressive in thought. Anyone tried it?

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Thaumas body forsure, atheling mantle are the first two things I noticed. I don't have club capped to see what it is on rng but I am sure you will need the acc.

It works pretty well in Neo Nyzul but then again what doesn't.

I went full retard admitting I forgot there is only 8 attack rounds.

Well, the first suggestion I have is to sell the kraken club and buy an annihilator. That will increase your damage more than any kraken club setup you can come up with. At least upgrade an armageddon if you really want to hold onto the club.

I did nyzul on RNG without a kraken club. It's pointless to have one as far as I'm concerned. Like raurin noted, on 50% of the mobs you will be WSing as soon as you engage. You should be able to one-shot every mob except for some skeletons/mousses (depending on how many mobs the floor has). I'd say I'm surprised more people don't take RNGs, but I've honestly never partied with one that knows what they're doing.

I actually put KC in my wanted list because I thought it would be a useful tool for nyzul. Ended up 15/15 before I even had the chance to buy it.

Well, the first suggestion I have is to sell the kraken club and buy an annihilator. That will increase your damage more than any kraken club setup you can come up with. At least upgrade an armageddon if you really want to hold onto the club.

Annihilator(with last stand) destroys gandiva so much I don't even consider gandiva a real weapon anymore.

Last stand is basically double the damage of jishnu's. I was averaging 5k last stands without cor/brd buffs and YCB when I'd normally average like 3k-4k jishnu's with RCB + brd/cors buffs ;/

No idea what last stand does on harder NM's with brd + cor buffs though, I'm not allowed to ever be in the DD party as ranger...

Without reading the thread due to a lack of caring, just by the title alone my response is....

OBSOLETE!

No more than a toy now, now it is no more than a tool to feed a target more tp than nessecary. Just my opinion though.

I've been wanting to try out kraken rng for just random stuff. I know it's only really good for weaker mobs, but that's good enough for me to want to make a gear set for it. xD