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Are Christianity and Capitalism Really Compatible?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 15:59:18
Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-22 16:02:21
Capitalism is alive in well under all the political processes going on. There was a short discussion about regulation, and then attention turned to JOBSJOBSJOBSJOBSJOBSJOBSJOBSJOBSJOBS
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:04:43
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back? Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism and anarchy in America outside of the smaller subset of groups.
dictatorships and monarchies are just evident symptoms of falling/emerging economic systems.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-22 16:06:15
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism and anarchy in America outside of the smaller subset of groups.
I've heard the theorized cycle being described as:
primitive communism > slavery > feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism
with each stage having its own sub stages
but yeah
(source being my wealth and culture anthro gen ed requirement :P)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:09:25
Cerberus.Eugene said: Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism and anarchy in America outside of the smaller subset of groups.
I've heard the theorized cycle being described as:
primitive communism > slavery > feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism
with each stage having its own sub stages
but yeah oligarchy is a big one that we have to deal with, france rebelled and hung the lot.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:09:35
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Is compatible the word you're looking for? If you mean to ask whether they must go hand and hand that could be interesting. They are quite obviously compatible though as the society that invented capitalism was quite predominantly Christian. If they were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with.
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By Alexander.Inuyasha 2011-04-22 16:10:39
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be. Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians. But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not. So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back? Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak. I've heard it explained that it goes like.... anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression. right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism. ^seems Karl Marx knew what he was talking about!
although, i personally think that the backstabbing antics of the free market dont reflect religious morals or support them in any way. I think this about politics too unfortunately. :/
but thats just me >_>
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 16:10:57
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism. If it evolves like that, then I fear a rise in Christianity. They were saying in the article that the bible leans towards communism more than a free market.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-04-22 16:11:19
It's dangerous to imply that the United States "invented" capitalism.
The world was not socialist nor made up exclusively of totalitarian managed economies before 1776.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:11:33
Odin.Gosuapple said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Is compatible the word you're looking for? If you mean to ask whether they must go hand and hand that could be interesting. They are quite obviously compatible though as the society that invented capitalism was quite predominantly Christian. If they were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with. why do you say that?
it's not the first time someone called themselves compromised their perceived values for a dollar, and it won't be the last.
look at CBN.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism. If it evolves like that, then I fear a rise in Christianity. They were saying in the article that the bible leans towards communism more than a free market. not everything in the world=circular progression.
so your inference on christianity being on the rise is set to just be an inference based on your own perceptions of the world without data to back up what you are inferring.
not saying that the past doesn't repeat its-self though.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 16:11:58
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:14:32
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-22 16:14:32
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism and anarchy in America outside of the smaller subset of groups.
I've heard the theorized cycle being described as:
primitive communism > slavery > feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism
with each stage having its own sub stages
but yeah oligarchy is a big one that we have to deal with, france rebelled and hung the lot.
well oligarchy is socio-politico atmosphere rather than an economic one yeah? oligarchy and democracy are political types, maybe they are required to eventually birth socialism though.
My list was a evolution of the economic climates. it's slightly different than your list, but theyre probably both correct in their own way.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2011-04-22 16:15:29
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics?
duh
just look at how much money christianity makes
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:16:04
Cerberus.Eugene said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Capatalism as any economic system is doomed to be reborn into something else after a varied amount of time that the system is allowed to age and decay so to speak.
I've heard it explained that it goes like....
anarchism>free market capitalism>oligarchy>democracy>socialism>communism
but I may be skipping a few steps give or take in the scale of progression.
right now we have a mixture between like all of em spare communism and anarchy in America outside of the smaller subset of groups.
I've heard the theorized cycle being described as:
primitive communism > slavery > feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism
with each stage having its own sub stages
but yeah oligarchy is a big one that we have to deal with, france rebelled and hung the lot.
well oligarchy is socio-politico atmosphere rather than an economic one yeah? oligarchy and democracy are political types, maybe they are required to eventually birth socialism though.
My list was a evolution of the economic climates. it's slightly different than your list, but theyre probably both correct in their own way. still has to do where the money(power) is at and where it's not going.
seems pretty economical to me.
though I understand what you are meaning to say. lol.
:D
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 16:17:49
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol. To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-22 16:17:55
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as Christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
markets provide information that is very difficult to tabulate without them. Iirc think the soviet union failed to go anywhere for a while before they instituted basic markets for things like bread and lower goods.
True socialism is very difficult to maintain.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:19:46
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Odin.Gosuapple said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Is compatible the word you're looking for? If you mean to ask whether they must go hand and hand that could be interesting. They are quite obviously compatible though as the society that invented capitalism was quite predominantly Christian. If they were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with. why do you say that?
it's not the first time someone called themselves compromised their perceived values for a dollar, and it won't be the last.
look at CBN.
Though capitalism would be difficult without some form of currency, the mere presence of currency is by no means capitalism. Capitalism is the system in which every person eats the fruit of their labor and invention. As opposed to a feudal system for example where the king or lord received the fruit of peasants labor by statute.
And in response to by those in Jaerik, economist seem to be fundamentally agreed (I'm thinking most especially of Milton Friedman here) that capitalism is an invention of America and really started to be fully fleshed out in America around the end of the 19th century/beginning of the 20th.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:19:52
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol. To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise. come-back from what?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:23:03
Odin.Gosuapple said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Odin.Gosuapple said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Is compatible the word you're looking for? If you mean to ask whether they must go hand and hand that could be interesting. They are quite obviously compatible though as the society that invented capitalism was quite predominantly Christian. If they were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with. why do you say that?
it's not the first time someone called themselves compromised their perceived values for a dollar, and it won't be the last.
look at CBN.
Though capitalism would be difficult without some form of currency, the mere presence of currency is by no means capitalism. Capitalism is the system in which every person eats the fruit of their labor and invention. As opposed to a feudal system for example where the king or lord received the fruit of peasants labor by statute.
And in response to by those in Jaerik, economist seem to be fundamentally agreed (I'm thinking most especially of Milton Friedman here) that capitalism is an invention of America and really started to be fully fleshed out in America around the end of the 19th century/beginning of the 20th. I have no idea what you are telling me has to do with what I was replying to so i'll requote what i was replying to for clarification.
Quote: If they(Christians) were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with. is replied with: why do you say that?
it's not the first time someone called themselves compromised their perceived values for a dollar, and it won't be the last.
look at CBN.
and then you can look at the arguments that not all the founding fathers are christian in the first place and a lot of other things.
this whole talking point seems like a stretch in the first place.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:23:17
Leviathan.Chaosx said: To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise.
Try to get a business license in this country
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 16:23:47
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol. To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise. come-back from what? Maybe I should it's on the rise rather than a comeback.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-22 16:24:43
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: It's dangerous to imply that the United States "invented" capitalism.
The world was not socialist nor made up exclusively of totalitarian managed economies before 1776.
Capitalism developed from mercantile trade. The Americas were found by Columbus in the process of expanding trade routes.
EDIT to clarify: I don't mean trade only existed as a path for capitalism either. Different nations traded with each other in order to get necessary supplies prior to capitalism. Trade did provide a convenient route for the development of capitalism as feudalism began to wane though.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-04-22 16:25:31
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world.
meaning i don't think it's very plausible.
the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol. To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise. come-back from what? Maybe I should it's on the rise rather than a comeback. Islam is on a rise, dunno why you think Christianity is on a rise, why do you think that?
Cerberus.Eugene said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: It's dangerous to imply that the United States "invented" capitalism.
The world was not socialist nor made up exclusively of totalitarian managed economies before 1776.
Capitalism developed from mercantile trade. The Americas were found by Columbus in the process of expanding trade routes. mercantile trade existed before 1776.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:25:42
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I have no idea what you are telling me has to do with what I was replying to so i'll requote what i was replying to for clarification.
Quote: If they(Christians) were incompatible capitalism could never have been invented to begin with. is replied with: why do you say that?
it's not the first time someone called themselves compromised their perceived values for a dollar, and it won't be the last.
look at CBN.
My point was that a Christian society invented capitalism. You then said that capitalism predates America. I responded it does not in fact predate America and was thus invented by a Christian society.
By Inuyasha 2011-04-22 16:26:34
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be. Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians. But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not. So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back? Christians matter when it comes to economics? They actually might if the free market disappears. I think the Free market disappearing as a whole is as plausible as christianity taking over the world. meaning i don't think it's very plausible. the way you put it you seem like you were convinced it was happening before you even made the thread though lol. To me it does feel like Christianity is trying to make a comeback. However I don't feel like capitalism is going away any time soon, however the right winged media would make you think otherwise. come-back from what? Maybe I should it's on the rise rather than a comeback. but arent more people non-religious than anythign else?
*the last time i looked up statistics for religious density was like..2 years ago.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-22 16:27:25
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Islam is on a rise, dunno why you think Christianity is on a rise, why do you think that?
It feels like it. You hear more about about it in the news.
Is Islam really on the rise? That would be a shocker to me.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:27:30
Cerberus.Eugene said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: It's dangerous to imply that the United States "invented" capitalism.
The world was not socialist nor made up exclusively of totalitarian managed economies before 1776.
Capitalism developed from mercantile trade. The Americas were found by Columbus in the process of expanding trade routes.
Trade alone does not make capitalism. Columbus for example was commissioned by the crown meaning that the profits went to the crown rather than people keeping what they make which is one of the most fundamental features of capitalism.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2011-04-22 16:28:18
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Islam is on a rise, dunno why you think Christianity is on a rise, why do you think that?
It feels like it. You hear more about about it in the news.
Is Islam really on the rise? That would be a shocker to me.
yeah sort of. mainly because of disproportionately high birth rates though. It's not really because of a whole lot of conversion.
Just saw this interesting poll asking Americans if Christianity and capitalism are really as compatible as republicans make them seem to be.
Quote: A new poll released Thursday (April 21) found that more Americans (44 percent) see the free market system at odds with Christian values than those who don't (36 percent), whether they are white evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics or minority Christians.
But in other demographic breakdowns, several categories lean the other way: Republicans and Tea Party members, college graduates and members of high-income households view the systems as more compatible than not.
So what do you guys think? Could this be the reason for a decline in the religious numbers? Or do you think there is a decline of the spirit of capitalism because religion is making a come back?
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